I know this topic has been beat to death and I hate to ask again. but are we positive that A is not scamming with N? Have there been proven reports or videos of deaths relating to A's N? I know the bottles come sealed and that should be enough but I'm still wary. I have heard many good things about PPH and I'd hate to doubt it, but the internet is making me nervous. There's a bunch of people saying he scammed them. Either by not sending the N or by giving them fake N. Not responding after they gave money etc. I really want to trust him and I'm not even sure I'm buying yet. We've been in touch and he does seem legit. Am i just missing out because I haven't read PPH? Is there proof that A's N works? I told him he was a great guy earlier, a hero of sorts, and i tend to end up eating my words in these situations. Thanks.
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I can't really help allay your fears but I don't see anything wrong with you bringing it up again. It's pretty stressful to lay out that much money for something so important when you aren't sure it's going to come through. I say ask away!
Thanks! It's so hard to trust anything nowadays
El Topo
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- Apr 21, 2018
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One of the active members of the Discord used A's product, and her death has been confirmed.
If you haven't read the PPH, please read it. This may sound harsh, but so many people ask questions that are answered in the euthanasia guides. Read the PPH, Guide to a Humane Self-Chosen Death, and Dignified Dying.
I would be interested to know where you read about people saying that he sent them "fake N." Like he actually filled bottles with fake liquid and took the risk to ship them to a foreign country? Sorry, but I'm skeptical.
RainAndSadness
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- Jun 12, 2018
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I'll ctb with N and I can let you know when I receive my product.
No clue, I was reading off a bunch of different sites. It was really only one person who said that i think, after others were saying they were scammed.
El Topo
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- Apr 21, 2018
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A has been listed in the PPH since around 2014, and if he was regularly scamming people, I think Philip Nitschke would've heard something by now and removed him. All of the Chinese suppliers were removed after their products were tested as impure.
There are many scammers who set up email addresses very similar to A's, so there are people who think they got scammed by A, when actually they got scammed by someone pretending to be A.
Of course, this doesn't mean that A will never become a scammer in the future. We can never know for sure. We're talking about drug dealers here. There were other Mexican suppliers listed in previous versions of the PPH who were eventually removed because they started scamming.
But... for now, A is the only known reliable source for N. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to be scamming some people. I can't guarantee anything. But I received my order from him, and there are many people on 8chan and this forum who received their orders from him. And there are confirmed deaths of people who used his product.
Thank you. I figured that may be the case with the similar emails, but it still made me a bit nervous nonetheless. Glad to have reassurance, even if it's not the method I choose.
For what it's worth, I ordered from him and received two bottles that seem legit. I opened one and tasted it. If that isn't pentobarbital, he certainly went through a lot of effort to make whatever it is taste like shit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has a really cheap source, given how easy it has always been to obtain pentobarbital in Mexico. In any case, his business is probably ridiculously profitable. It doesn't really seem to make sense for him to scam people. He probably gets a lot of customers through word of mouth. A bad reputation to save a few dollars doesn't seem to be profitable.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has a really cheap source, given how easy it has always been to obtain pentobarbital in Mexico. In any case, his business is probably ridiculously profitable. It doesn't really seem to make sense for him to scam people. He probably gets a lot of customers through word of mouth. A bad reputation to save a few dollars doesn't seem to be profitable.
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Archangel
- Mar 23, 2018
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I received mine today. :) It took a little over a month but I didn't get the express shipping.
RainAndSadness
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- Jun 12, 2018
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