Discussion A couple of articles on suicide prevention in Australia

[Maravillosa]

I am not Australian, but these newspaper articles intrigued me. I think that attempting to have zero ctbs in an entire country is a fool's errand. Prime Minister Scott Morrison is a devout Christian and thoroughly pro-life regarding ctb. I think Christine Morgan has a huge task ahead of her.

Meet the woman tasked with cutting Australia's shocking suicide rate

Christine Morgan plans to take the "village approach" to achieve the government's daunting aim of moving the suicide rate towards zero.

www.smh.com.au

Scott Morrison's suicide prevention adviser says mental health system may increase risk of self-harm

The woman tasked with cutting Australia’s suicide rate – Christine Morgan – raises questions about the medicalised approach

www.theguardian.com

An excerpt from the Guardian article:

Morgan tells Guardian Australia's politics podcast the mental health system was "birthed" from general healthcare, and its medicalised models. Medicalised models can deal brilliantly with lumps and bumps but don't necessarily respond effectively to the complexities of illnesses of behaviour, thoughts and feelings. When people become very ill, they also lose the language to communicate their illness.

Two challenging questions then suggest themselves. The first is linked directly to Morgan's current commission about suicide prevention. Does Australia's mental health system, despite the best of intentions, perversely increase the risks that an ill person will engage in self-harm, or try to end their own life, because the system doesn't respond to their needs, and sometimes will only respond swiftly if a medical emergency forces the issue? The second question is broader: are the deficiencies of a sufficient order of magnitude to warrant redesigning the system from scratch?

What do you think?

 

[Baskol1]

I am not Australian, but these newspaper articles intrigued me. I think that attempting to have zero ctbs in an entire country is a fool's errand. Prime Minister Scott Morrison is a devout Christian and thoroughly pro-life regarding ctb. I think Christine Morgan has a huge task ahead of her.

Meet the woman tasked with cutting Australia's shocking suicide rate

Christine Morgan plans to take the "village approach" to achieve the government's daunting aim of moving the suicide rate towards zero.

www.smh.com.au

Scott Morrison's suicide prevention adviser says mental health system may increase risk of self-harm

The woman tasked with cutting Australia’s suicide rate – Christine Morgan – raises questions about the medicalised approach

www.theguardian.com

An excerpt from the Guardian article:



What do you think?

I think suicide prevention is good, im not pro suicide, but pro choice. And if it is rightly done, then this is a good thing. But if its just fighting the symptoms it is completely useless, and will just increase the time people staying in psychiatric hospital. So it all depends how it is done. It is important hat the mentally ill dont lose to many rights.

 

[SelfHatingAspie]

I can't take that happy clapper PM seriously. Especially since learning that he shat himself at a McDonalds in 1997.

 

[EmptySteph62]

I think everyone should have the right to choose whether they live or die. That being said I think it would be amazing if there was something like this that could help people who want help and to help people who aren't quite on the edge of ctb yet.
I think we need to focus more on helping people who want to be helped and suicide prevention is important. However again, if someone has made the choice to ctb that should be their choice and should be respected as such.

I think suicide prevention is good, im not pro suicide, but pro choice. And if it is rightly done, then this is a good thing. But if its just fighting the symptoms it is completely useless, and will just increase the time people staying in psychiatric hospital. So it all depends how it is done. It is important hat the mentally ill dont lose to many rights.

Yes exactly!