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Screenshot 2023 08 29 75810 AM Islamic literature is filled with stories about eternal punishment for people that commit suicide so this was an interesting read. It seems like Allah has some mercy in his heart, I wonder if there's anything similar in Christianity knowing how similar both religions are when it comes to suicide and after life.
 
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View attachment 119245 Islamic literature is filled with stories about eternal punishment for people that commit suicide so this was an interesting read. It seems like Allah has some mercy in his heart, I wonder if there's anything similar in Christianity knowing how similar both religions are when it comes to suicide and after life.
These are short videos. Basically, suicide is a sin yet nothing can separate us from the Love of God.

 
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That's interesting and it's logic if there is really an almighty, all forgiving, all merciful god if they didn't forgive each "soul" that was already punished so much with life on earth to be punished again in a hell. This would be truly a sadistic god, creating sth that is already punished and then punish it again. This isn't logic.

But yeah, when people are afraid of hell it's easier for the rulers to control them.
 
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if there is really an almighty, all forgiving, all merciful god if they didn't forgive each "soul" that was already punished so much with life on earth to be punished again in a hell. This would be truly a sadistic god, creating sth that is already punished and then punish it again. This isn't logic.
Yeah especially since he knows exactly what we're going to do from the moment we're born, hell in general makes no sense.
 
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In the esoteric branches of each big religion (sunism, gnosticism, kabbalah), these types of rigid rules, like "you go to hell if you suicide" doesn't exist.
The religions as they are commonly known are more like a code of conduct to maintain order and morale in society. In ours days, the laws of the government prevail because the government has power over people, but back then in the age of swords and bows, the people had the power to easily overturn the rulers. So the natural solution was to use beliefs to manipulate the people, it's not always a bad thing, order is often necessary.
Spiritually speaking, the surface-level branch of religions are like a "guide for dummies", it's remarquably well structured into different levels of readings, so that "dummies" can strictly follow the rules and contribute to order in society and ignore existential questions, and the curious ones can read through the symbolism to unveil truthful statements about consciousness and the Universe. That's why religions are full of allegory and symbols.
So if you seek truth, you obviously have to dig much deeper.
 
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Yeah especially since he knows exactly what we're going to do from the moment we're born, hell in general makes no sense.
I do not believe that God "knows exactly what we're going to do from the moment we are born." I believe that God CAN know, but chooses NOT to know. If he knows, then how can HE justify all the pain and suffering in the world? Yes, we as humans have free will and God CAN know, but he chooses not to know. I CAN know all about Chemistry but I'm not going to be a scientist and so I choose not to know all about Chemistry. If you believe in an all knowing God, then how can you trust that he has your best interest at heart IF he already knows that you are going to get raped or molested as a child, you'll develop cancer when you are 11 years old, or that regardless of how many times you hear the message of salvation that will die in a car crash at the age of 37 having never turned your life over to him and thus spend the rest of eternity in Hell. That just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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