Method aluminium phosphid

[cali22♡]

Hi I just saw a video where someone announced his ctb with aluminum phosphide can someone tell me more about this substance and if it potentially passes as a ctb method?
It has been reported to be the most common method of suicidal death in North India.[18][19]

Deaths have also been reported in Iran.[20]

In January 2017, four children died at a trailer park in Amarillo, Texas, after the pesticide was used under the home to kill rats.[21]

Several incidents of death in travelers in Thailand and other parts of Southeast Asia may have been caused by aluminum phosphide or chlorpyrifos, an organophosphate insecticide, used in an attempt to kill bedbugs in hotels.[22][23]

On November 16 2019, 2 children and an adult were killed in Timișoara, Romania, after the residential complex they were living in had been improperly vented after fumigation with AlP. It was later found there were other cases in the country that could have been linked to the misuse of this chemical.[24]

In February 2020, aluminum phosphide poisoning resulted in one death and three serious injuries aboard a cargo ship traveling near France,[25] as the result of a botched fumigation procedure.[26]

In December 2021, an 11-year old girl died in London and another child was seriously injured by phosphine inhalation after a neighbour used illegally imported aluminum phosphide tablets in an attempt to remove a bedbug infestation in an apartment building. [27]

The CDC has classified phosphine as immediately dangerous to life at 50 parts per million. In a study from Saudi Arabia, poisoning was most common during fumigation of households.[29]





Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_phosphide_poisoning
Thats what i found on Wikipedia




Aluminium phosphide poisoning is poisoning that occurs as a result of excessive exposure to aluminium phosphide (AlP), which is readily available as a fumigant for stored cereal grains and sold under various brand names such as QuickPhos, Salphos and Celphos. Aluminium phosphide is highly toxic, especially when consumed from a freshly opened container.[1][2] Acute aluminium phosphide poisoning (AAlPP) is a large though under-reported problem throughout the world, particularly in the Indian subcontinent.


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_phosphide_poisoning
Prognosis:
Aluminium phosphide has a fatal dose of between 0.15 and 0.5 grams (0.0053 and 0.0176 oz).[14] The mortality rates from AAlPP vary from 35 to 85 percent.[15] The actual numbers of cases may be much larger, as less than five percent of those with AAlPP eventually reach a tertiary care center.[10] Since 1992, when aluminium phosphide became freely available in the market, it had, reportedly, overtaken all other forms of deliberate poisoning, such as organophosphorus and barbiturate poisoning, in North India.[16] In a 25-year-long study on 5,933 unnatural deaths in northwest India, aluminium phosphide poisoning was found to be the major cause of death among all cases of poisonings.[17]


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_phosphide_poisoning
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[ShatteredSerenity]

This appears to be a common suicide method in certain parts of the world. Consuming 3 tablets is enough to cause death in almost all cases.

The main issue I see with this method is that it's likely to cause a very painful death. Patients often present with sudden onset of abdominal pain, vomiting, refractory hypotension, and arrythmias. They can also experience headache, dizziness, diarrhea, breathing difficulty, altered sensorium, and convulsion.

The literature doesn't say exactly how quickly aluminum phosphide can cause death, but it says that most die within 24 hours.

I certainly wouldn't sign myself for such a long list of nasty symptoms in order to die up to 24 hours later.

 

[marios]

It doesn't look like a peaceful way to ctb..

 

[Intoxicated]

Ingesting AlP and inhaling PH3 made out of AlP are two different methods. Ingesting AlP is probably unpleasant since it violently reacts with water. Poisoning with PH3 by inhaling it could be fast, but finding info about effects associated with particular concentrations of PH3 is significantly harder than for H2S.

When AlP reacts with water, some amount of diphosphane (P2H4) may also be produced in addition to phosphane (PH3). P2H4 is a pyrophoric gas prone to self-ignition at room temperatures, that may add some complications to carrying out CTB. You could need to use some inert gas in order to prevent combustion of the PH3/P2H4 mixture at the water surface.

Although PH3 poisoning may be a quite effective and fast way of CTB, I suspect it doesn't have any significant advantages over H2S poisoning. PH3 is nearly as dangerous to the first responders as H2S, and H2S is already strong enough to produce rapid loss of consciousness and death, without a significant discomfort (if CTB with it is carried out properly).