Venting Anybody who says this isn't a pro Suicide forum is delusional. I swear on the behalf of God.

[Bridget@read]

Some people are so delulu on here, they'll post threads about how this is not a pro Suicide Forum....How can you say that? When people are literally giving advice to each other about methods how to commit suicide on here etc.It definitely reminds me of the days when I was on R/SuicideWatch. And everybody was either posting about their life Stories or looking for Methods.

 

[WitheredHeights]

You are also missing half of it though. There are also a lot of people here looking for a group of people that have similar experiences to help them get better. I agree that the users can be pro-suicide, but I have also seen just as many on the other coin. So, I would say that it isn't the forum that is pro-suicide, but the users as individuals.

 

[Bridget@read]

You are also missing half of it though. There are also a lot of people here looking for a group of people that have similar experiences to help them get better. I agree that the users can be pro-suicide, but I have also seen just as many on the other coin. So, I would say that it isn't the forum that is pro-suicide, but the users

You are also missing half of it though. There are also a lot of people here looking for a group of people that have similar experiences to help them get better. I agree that the users can be pro-suicide, but I have also seen just as many on the other coin. So, I would say that it isn't the forum that is pro-suicide, but the users as individuals.

Eh. Fair enough, I can see your point. I am fairly new to this site as of a couple months back.

 

[astr4]

i have always found it to be pro-choice. hopefully no one is on here telling you directly to ctb. i don't think giving you the details you need to make a fully informed decision makes it pro-suicide; in fact, many times the advice will be "this method will not work, please don't hurt yourself."

 

[struggles_inc]

The whole recovery board: am I a joke to you?

 

[EvisceratedJester]

How do you have the right to say anything about this site when you haven't even been a member on here for a day? Most people on this site are pro-choice. There have been multiple cases where I've seen people congratulate those who have recovered and decided to not ctb, cases of people encouraging others not to attempt if they aren't sure yet, and cases where people encouraged others who were dealing with suicidal ideation for the first time to go and get help instead of immediately trying to attempt. While there are some pro-death individuals, they don't represent the majority of this site's user base.

 

[TheHolySword]

I'm new but I've been lurking for a bit before then. To me it's about the choice and the freedom. No one here told me to do it, or that I even should. I'm listened to, people sympathize and empathize, there's no judgment surrounding suicide here. People from all walks of life are here for one reason or another, it's a community and people have found solidarity in that. I'm sure there are pro suicide, pro death people in this forum, but that doesn't mean it's the purpose of this place. We often encourage getting help and seeking alternative options, we support those who choose not to ctb and are glad to see them go for happier reasons. There's even a dedicated recovery section to assist people. Some folks come here because a loved one used this forum or they're seeking support after a suicide and we offer compassion. To label it as just pro suicide is to miss what so many individuals do here. That's just how I see it though

 

[HenryHenriksen_6E]

Eh, it depends. Sometimes it feels like that, but I believe many are here are just trying to cope with being alive. When you gather a community of struggling people, of course they won't have all sparkly and positive views of life, like that's just to be expected. And, I do admit (and I'm sorry if this offends people), that sometimes this place can turn into somewhat of an echo chamber. That's simply what happens when you put people with similar mindsets in one place. However, I believe there are so many individuals here with different experiences and circumstances, so you can't put everyone here in the same box. That doesn't work. Look at me as an example, I try to avoid saying things that make suicide look alluring, though I don't go around spouting cliche quotes that don't do shit, meanwhile others can give a complete tutorial on how to hang yourself, or just say that existence is all-so miserable. We're all different.

Thing is, when navigating a place like this, it's important to not take everything to heart, and instead look at yourself, your own beliefs and wants, to know if you agree with what is being said. If someone would tell me: "Life is the worst thing to happen and you should be angry at your parents to bring you into this world." I won't instantly take it seriously, as it goes against what I believe in.
Actually, this simply applies to everything. Don't believe everything you're told, even if it sounds smartly worded.

Alright, that's my thoughts.

 

[coolgal82]

Some people are so delulu on here, they'll post threads about how this is not a pro Suicide Forum....How can you say that? When people are literally giving advice to each other about methods how to commit suicide on here etc.It definitely reminds me of the days when I was on R/SuicideWatch. And everybody was either posting about their life Stories or looking for Methods.

i think the label "pro choice" is better than "pro suicide" because like pro suicide would be saying "suicide is actually a positive thing and everyone should do it and should be encouraged to do so" but this place is more about "suicide is a very serious thing but everyone should be allowed to do it if they wish" and there isnt outright encouragement infact ive seen alot of cases of people like trying to dissuade others from it in different ways/shapes/forms or atleast going "just remember you can always change your mind" and stuff when people are about to attempt

 

[greebo6]

And the problem with that is....?
Don't judge or moan . Mind your own business,
Leave people alone to freely exercise their right to give pro suicide advice and thoughts. That's what this place is partly for. There are precious few others around. It helps people more than anything else .
And as someone else said there is also a recovery platform/section easily accessed.
If you don't like someone's 'pro suicide' input then ignore it/read another text/stay in the recovery section instead... but they have a right to freely express them here.

 

[cloudyskye]

I can only say for sure what I know my intentions are and i never intend to persuade or encourage someone to die. I have given some advice on method and how to use because I only say what I know for sure. I only do it when someone asks specifically. I usually only do it for methods that will result in extremely serious consequences if failed.

 

[helloandbye1]

People choose for themselves what to do with the information provided. This forum actually helped me not to make a mistake of damaging my liver lol. It's also nice being here and talking to people who understand me and don't call me a freak.
Btw, when people make threads about leaving SaSu and seeking professional help, others wish them luck and tell them they hope they get better.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

The title of this post and the post itself is so confident on labelling this website as pro-suicide, yet the OP joined today. Then one user gives a reasonable reply and the OP immediately changes their mind.

Why are people so quick to make a rage baiting post like this?
Where does the confidence come from to immediately label a website that you have been a part of for less than 24h and speak in this matter?

Feels a bit like rage bait for no reason. You take one glance at the website and you immediately have 2 distinct sections: suicide discussion and recovery so how would the website be pro-suicide when it has these 2 sections?
Sharing information on methods is not the same as encouraging, this requires simple reading comprehension skills to understand...

Maybe I'm over-reacting towards this post when it doesn't need so much reaction, but come on...let's actually spend some time reading through the website before reaching rushed conclusions...

 

[EvisceratedJester]

The title of this post and the post itself is so confident on labelling this website as pro-suicide, yet the OP joined today. Then one user gives a reasonable reply and the OP immediately changes their mind.

Why are people so quick to make a rage baiting post like this?
Where does the confidence come from to immediately label a website that you have been a part of for less than 24h and speak in this matter?

Feels a bit like rage bait for no reason. You take one glance at the website and you immediately have 2 distinct sections: suicide discussion and recovery so how would the website be pro-suicide when it has these 2 sections?
Sharing information on methods is not the same as encouraging, this requires simple reading comprehension skills to understand...

Maybe I'm over-reacting towards this post when it doesn't need so much reaction, but come on...let's actually spend some time reading through the website before reaching rushed conclusions...

No, you're right. This has 'rage bait' written all over it.

 

[Neowise]

It definitely reminds me of the days when I was on R/SuicideWatch. And everybody was either posting about their life Stories or looking for Methods.

It's funny you mention this sub. I was just today banned from it because I gave someone advice there lol.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Sharing method info has nothing to do with being pro-suicide or not. Ultimately suicide is always a personal decision.

 

[Electra]

Someone already wrote this, but this is rage bait. There's more to SaSu than meets the eye, there's a whole recovery section, games, discussions, etc. And I would argue that meeting people who have experienced similar thoughts and feelings can help you feel better, listened to and just overall give this feeling and understanding that you are not alone in this.
Edit: grammar

 

[SVEN]

Does God know you're swearing on Her/His/Their/Its behalf ?

 

[dontwakemeup]

I'm sorry your experience here hasn't been what you've expected.

I personally am Pro-choice! Whatever YOU decide, I'll be there to help you sort it out, if I can. I can only share my attempts and what not to do from my experiences.

If you make a post and say, "I'm going to take 30 pills of Tylenol pm to kill myself tonight!" I'm sure nobody here would advise you of that and say do it! We know that method doesn't work, does that make us not Pro-Suicide? You stated your method, we will respond and say no, don't do that, I can promise you that.

This is a community with several different forums inside this community. Everyone has the same initial goal that enter here- suicide. As you navigate throught your life you may be active, the next day want to continue living, months later have resolved what issues you are dealing with, it's a thread for each of those feelings and emotions. YOU ultimately decide your path, not us.

You seem very upset so I will say this to you. Im sorry you are feeling this way, again. I hope whatever has bought you to this site you can find someone or see a post that maybe beneficial to you. I hope whatever you decide is your path, much success Lashing out against people who are already in mental pain isn't nice. But hope you can find something today to make you smile.

 

[divinemistress36]

Why the hell are you here then prolifer?

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Yeah, this section of the forum is pro suicide but what's so bad about that? If we don't want to stay alive until natural death, we shouldn't have to. We should be allowed to leave existence earlier. In my opinion, I think that the right to have access to a peaceful suicide method is one of the most important rights that we could have which is unfortunately a right that we are denied to have. Suicide shouldn't be treated as a bad thing because, believe it or not, we are all going to die anyway. Suicide is merely the option to make the inevitable happen earlier. I genuinely don't see what's so wrong about that or why pro lifers oppose that notion so much. I have yet heard a good reason as to why I should have to be forced to live until I die naturally anyway

 

[Dusk till dawn]

This is a website for suicidal people made by suicidal people, of course information about suicide methods will be shared between members, toxic positivity is not welcome here, as a matter of fact, any form of unwanted positivity in the suicide forum is viewed as toxic and frowned upon by most members, if you think comments like "please seek help" or "it gets better" are wanted or common here then you're sorely mistaken, you wouldn't understand since you're not suicidal and you didn't experience any intense pain to feel suicidal, so who are you to judge us and lecture us about how life is valuable and we should push toxic positivity and try to "save" fellow members?

Your type and attitude is the very reason this forum exists, this self righteous bullshit about how we should stop sharing information regarding suicide methods is not going to fly with any of us, death is viewed as a mercy by most people here for your information

This is a safe haven for suicidal people to share their thoughts without being judged or called insane by unwanted outsiders like you, i guarantee you nobody here appreciates "please seek help" when they discuss or ask for information about a suicide method, only suicidal people can understand fellow suicidal people without judging or calling them insane, everyone here decides whether to commit suicide or continue living on their free will, if you don't like this place then please leave

 

[needthebus]

Some people are so delulu on here, they'll post threads about how this is not a pro Suicide Forum....How can you say that? When people are literally giving advice to each other about methods how to commit suicide on here etc.It definitely reminds me of the days when I was on R/SuicideWatch. And everybody was either posting about their life Stories or looking for Methods.

It's just not true.

People don't search for methods because their lives are happy and filled with sunshine joy and roses. People come here with severe heartbreak, chronic disease, horrible experiences with the mental health industry, and /or in severe pain and trauma.

Many of us are happy when someone rarely decides not to die or just leaves. When someone gives life another try, perhaps they'll be the rare one of us who ends up happy, who should never have been here.

How dare you come on here and imply we're all pro-death and pro-suicide! Many of us are tired of hurting. We are pro-life for people who don't suffer all the time, many of us. We also aren't a monolith.

Some of the people have severe genetic diseases, end-stage illnesses... are those people pro-suicide because they want to reduce their suffering?!

The nerve! Why don't you take your pro-life views and get back to church so you can preach about we all need to be like jesus, wearing thorns with nails in us, in agony, becaise it makes god and the government happy?

 

[Emeralds]

I have a question for everyone. What do you think a pro suicide forum would look like? What characteristics would it have? What would the people be saying or doing? I'm just curious. There has been a lot of arguing over this on here. So what would make a forum pro suicide?

 

[needthebus]

I have a question for everyone. What do you think a pro suicide forum would look like? What characteristics would it have? What would the people be saying or doing? I'm just curious. There has been a lot of arguing over this on here. So what would make a forum pro suicide?

I have a question for you. Who are YOU? Are you a pro-lifer and, if so, why are you on here?

 

[cloudyskye]

I have a question for everyone. What do you think a pro suicide forum would look like? What characteristics would it have? What would the people be saying or doing? I'm just curious. There has been a lot of arguing over this on here. So what would make a forum pro suicide?

I think if a forum were to actively, encourage, glamorize and or pressure or cheer suicide. There are definitely people here who cross the line imo. Some threads can absolutely seem like an echo chamber at times with everyone just moaning about how much life sucks and never admiting there ARE good things. I personally think you have to be able to admit that but it's also totally OK to say 'despite there being good things it's not enough' or 'the good doesn't out weigh the bad in my life'. Specifically I think people would pressure others to die. I.e. ' you posted a good bye thread why are you still here'. Or 'you've been here for more than 6 months why aren't you dead?' Etc...

 

[divinemistress36]

Yeah, this section of the forum is pro suicide but what's so bad about that? If we don't want to stay alive until natural death, we shouldn't have to. We should be allowed to leave existence earlier. In my opinion, I think that the right to have access to a peaceful suicide method is one of the most important rights that we could have which is unfortunately a right that we are denied to have. Suicide shouldn't be treated as a bad thing because, believe it or not, we are all going to die anyway. Suicide is merely the option to make the inevitable happen earlier. I genuinely don't see what's so wrong about that or why pro lifers oppose that notion so much. I have yet heard a good reason as to why I should have to be forced to live until I die naturally anyway

I love your realism we need more of this in the world

 

[inaminute]

Some people are so delulu on here, they'll post threads about how this is not a pro Suicide Forum....How can you say that? When people are literally giving advice to each other about methods how to commit suicide on here etc.It definitely reminds me of the days when I was on R/SuicideWatch. And everybody was either posting about their life Stories or looking for Methods.

I'm old enough to remember alt.suicide.holiday and alt.suicide.methods

R/ wasn't around then

 

[Pryras]

It's called sanctioned suicide and you are shocked people are giving advice about suicide methods? Are you for real?

 

[ClamChowder]

The mod team also actively shelters users who encourage others to view life as hopeless and death as good, and who discourage others from reaching out for support (for instance, by calling anti-suicide initiatives "brutal slavery").

We don't protect certain members. You can't see warnings and you don't know how the mods operate.