Apple Seeds

[RichardFirst]

This matter has come up in the past, but I thought to reignite the topic.

As most know, apple seeds contain amygdalin, which will convert to cyanide in the stomach. The actual number that one would have to eat to be fatal varies from around 150 to several thousand well crushed and blended seeds.

I've been collecting apple seeds for a few months now, and I have about 400 in the freezer. I'm not actually planning to use them to CTB. Rather, I just thought to collect them as I eat about 1-3 apples a day, and I was curious as to how many seeds I could amass. If that seems odd, well guilty :)

Has anyone ever heard of success with this method? Obviously pure cyanide would induce death, but what about using seeds? I suspect that it would not work, but I thought to ask.

 

[Fwompje]

It is a very creative idea, I'll give you that haha!
https://www.quora.com/Has-anyone-died-eating-apple-seeds Now Quora isn't the best source but someone did the math and ended up saying 5800 apple seeds.

 

[RichardFirst]

It is a very creative idea, I'll give you that haha!
https://www.quora.com/Has-anyone-died-eating-apple-seeds Now Quora isn't the best source but someone did the math and ended up saying 5800 apple seeds.

When I was a child, I collected all of the chewing gum that I consumed throughout the year. I filled a big jar with wads of the stuff before my mom found it and threw it away. Call it's an autism thing :).

 

[Fwompje]

When I was a child, I collected all of the chewing gum that I consumed throughout the year. I filled a big jar with wads of the stuff before my mom found it and threw it away. Call it's an autism thing :).

ah yeah, a collector! That's fun :)

 

[Shadowlord900]

Ah my first thought out suicide plan, brings back memories. Sneaking a bunch of apples upstairs into my bedroom to cut the seeds out of the apples over kitchen roll, poorly storing them in a simple drinking glass hidden inside a box while I hid the black bag of apples in my cupboard (boy that must have stunk XD) until I can sneak out with them to put in the bin outside. I even bought a blender with the plan of using that to blend the seeds into powder for me to quickly drink.... I really didn't properly think that through did I? ;^^

Unless if you're too afraid to order more reliable stuff over the internet, I can't really recommend trying to collect a whole bunch of apple seeds. Peach seeds have far more amygdalin, but they're also a massive pain to get the seed out of the shell. But still I also can't recommend death by cyanide poisoning unless if you need a really quick method. Sure it'll only last a few minutes, but it'll be the most painful experience of your life, like as if your insides are burning.

 

[RichardFirst]

Ah my first thought out suicide plan, brings back memories. Sneaking a bunch of apples upstairs into my bedroom to cut the seeds out of the apples over kitchen roll, poorly storing them in a simple drinking glass hidden inside a box while I hid the black bag of apples in my cupboard (boy that must have stunk XD) until I can sneak out with them to put in the bin outside. I even bought a blender with the plan of using that to blend the seeds into powder for me to quickly drink.... I really didn't properly think that through did I? ;^^

Unless if you're too afraid to order more reliable stuff over the internet, I can't really recommend trying to collect a whole bunch of apple seeds. Peach seeds have far more amygdalin, but they're also a massive pain to get the seed out of the shell. But still I also can't recommend death by cyanide poisoning unless if you need a really quick method. Sure it'll only last a few minutes, but it'll be the most painful experience of your life, like as if your insides are burning.

Yes, I'm rather sure it's not a runner. I may continue to collect the seeds all the same. :)

I live in Europe, you see. Finding anything "dangerous" here is difficult in the extreme. I've been looking for SN for some time, but I cannot source it.

 

[Looking]

My stomach hurts at the thought of eating thousands of apple seeds in one setting.


Honestly, I do find it interesting you've collected apple seeds like that! The thought of collecting something totally random, for the sole reason of seeing what the total mass of it would be is fairly interesting. (Also a fellow Autistic person, and now I'm thinking about what I can collect.)

 

[RichardFirst]

My stomach hurts at the thought of eating thousands of apple seeds in one setting.


Honestly, I do find it interesting you've collected apple seeds like that! The thought of collecting something totally random, for the sole reason of seeing what the total mass of it would be is fairly interesting. Also a fellow Autistic person, and now I'm thinking about what I can collect.

I have about 18g of seeds, or about 400 by my estimation. So far, the most seeds from one apple is ten. Granny Smith apples are by far the best source.

 

[Looking]

I have about 18g of seeds, or about 400 by my estimation. So far, the most seeds from one apple is ten. Granny Smith apples are by far the best source.

Oh, man, super satisfying to know the details. How do you store them in your fridge? Has anyone ever questioned them in person or does nobody know of them?

 

[RichardFirst]

Oh, man, super satisfying to know the details. How do you store them in your fridge? Has anyone ever questioned them in person or does nobody know of them?

I keep them in a sandwich bad in the freezer as it keeps them from sprouting or rotting. My mother saw them, but she didn't really comment as she's used to my doing strange things like that

 

[Shadowlord900]

Yes, I'm rather sure it's not a runner. I may continue to collect the seeds all the same. :)

I live in Europe, you see. Finding anything "dangerous" here is difficult in the extreme. I've been looking for SN for some time, but I cannot source it.

My condolences. I've heard it's very difficult to get substances useful for CTBing on in various parts of the EU. Have you ever thought about the Inert Gas method with a SCBA Kit? @GasMonkey might be able to help you out with that. Hopefully getting the gear needed for that method should be easier as I doubt any of it should be considered as illegal.

Exit bag and inert gas megathread

Exit Bag and Inert Gas Basics —A very, very long post, I know, but I feel like I've fielded a lot of questions about this, so I figured I'd spell out everything I know. Others on the forum should please add to this thread whatever reliable technical information they feel is appropriate for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Btw fellow Autistic here too! (I have Asperger Syndrome.)

 

[Veraz]

Ah my first thought out suicide plan, brings back memories. Sneaking a bunch of apples upstairs into my bedroom to cut the seeds out of the apples over kitchen roll, poorly storing them in a simple drinking glass hidden inside a box while I hid the black bag of apples in my cupboard (boy that must have stunk XD) until I can sneak out with them to put in the bin outside. I even bought a blender with the plan of using that to blend the seeds into powder for me to quickly drink.... I really didn't properly think that through did I? ;^^

Unless if you're too afraid to order more reliable stuff over the internet, I can't really recommend trying to collect a whole bunch of apple seeds. Peach seeds have far more amygdalin, but they're also a massive pain to get the seed out of the shell. But still I also can't recommend death by cyanide poisoning unless if you need a really quick method. Sure it'll only last a few minutes, but it'll be the most painful experience of your life, like as if your insides are burning.

I have been kind of curious about this lately. As someone who doesn't understand a lot about drugs, don't cyanide and SN kill via the same mechanism? Starving the blood of it's ability to transport oxygen? If so, why would cyanide provoke such a painful reaction while SN and other's that kill you through the same method don't?

 

[resolutory]

I heard Cherry pips contain more cyanide.

 

[Shadowlord900]

I have been kind of curious about this lately. As someone who doesn't understand a lot about drugs, don't cyanide and SN kill via the same mechanism? Starving the blood of it's ability to transport oxygen? If so, why would cyanide provoke such a painful reaction while SN and other's that kill you through the same method don't?

I've tried looking it up but couldn't find much. All I know is I've read before about real-life suicides from cyanide poisoning and spectators describing it looking as incredibly painful unlike the movies.

 

[Disaster]

I was already joking that people try to overdose on goddamn everything and we will likely see a post asking on how to overdose on Nutella or Cheetos. I'm not sure if this post just shows the general direction, or is it even better

 

[Shadowlord900]

I was already joking that people try to overdose on goddamn everything and we will likely see a post asking on how to overdose on Nutella or Cheetos. I'm not sure if this post just shows the general direction, or is it even better

As funny as it sounds, it is a possible method. The only mistake most people make (and one I've made too) with that method is they greatly underestimate how many seeds they would need to collect for any actual chance of cyanide poisoning. For weaker ones like apple seeds, it's in the thousands. For stronger ones like cherry pips and peach seeds, maybe a few hundred... But wouldn't surprise me if you'd still need over a thousand of them to CTB.

It's both quicker and probably cheaper too to just buy a potent opioid from the dark web instead.

 

[Disaster]

As funny as it sounds, it is a possible method. The only mistake most people make (and one I've made too) with that method is they greatly underestimate how many seeds they would need to collect for any actual chance of cyanide poisoning. For weaker ones like apple seeds, it's in the thousands. For stronger ones like cherry pips and peach seeds, maybe a few hundred... But wouldn't surprise me if you'd still need over a thousand of them to CTB.

It's both quicker and probably cheaper too to just buy a potent opioid from the dark web instead.

I mean eating a lot of clumping cat litter to make it clump in ones digestive system could be deadly too, but it doesn't make it a reliable CTB method I certainly understand how trying to figure out creative methods can be amusing, but I also see people here asking if they can overdose on melatonin pills, and I'm not sure if those are capable adults, and I wonder what is worse: giving them methods that are likely to work, or ones that are unlikely to work, but have some chance of doing something, and that something could be unpleasant or harmful.

I'm also trying to imagine someone trying to get admitted because they ate shit-ton of apple seeds.

Or for example what would happen if this method was actually viable: governments regulating applecores, only de-cored or pre-sliced apples or applesauce available to general public, and seeds sold only to businesses Seeds sold for bitcoins in the dark web for the desperate souls who want to CTB It could be hilarious.

 

[Shadowlord900]

I mean eating a lot of clumping cat litter to make it clump in ones digestive system could be deadly too, but it doesn't make it a reliable CTB method I certainly understand how trying to figure out creative methods can be amusing, but I also see people here asking if they can overdose on melatonin pills, and I'm not sure if those are capable adults, and I wonder what is worse: giving them methods that are likely to work, or ones that are unlikely to work, but have some chance of doing something, and that something could be unpleasant or harmful.

I'm also trying to imagine someone trying to get admitted because they ate shit-ton of apple seeds.

Or for example what would happen if this method was actually viable: governments regulating applecores, only de-cored or pre-sliced apples or applesauce available to general public, and seeds sold only to businesses Seeds sold for bitcoins in the dark web for the desperate souls who want to CTB It could be hilarious.

I think I'd curl up and cry the day the government bans apple seeds and the price of all apple related products skyrocket.

 

[Disaster]

I think I'd curl up and cry the day the government bans apple seeds and the price of all apple related products skyrocket.

If you had somewhere to grow apple trees in secret, you could get rich from that tho

 

[CentreMid]

Collecting apple seeds… that's a very unique approach and I like that idea! I hear apricot kernels are also good in terms of cyanide. Not sure how true that claim is but I've seen a few threads about it floating around here over the years

 

[BillyBob]

I was thinking of collecting apple seeds until I found out how many I would need.
I think going after apricot seeds is the better and easier method. They have to be "Bitter Apricots" as they contain more of the chemical to convert into cyanide.
THere have been many deaths linked to them. Have noticed the bags of bitter seeds are banned in many countries because of it. You can buy large bags in the USA.

 

[Black Sheep One]

Why not collect apple seeds. A simple pill bottle container will do. I do not think they would spoil over time. The problem is how many seed do I need to get the job done. To many unknowns to calculate at this time.

 

[justaquicksnooze]

Haha I always swallow the seeds when I eat apples. If only this were a viable method, I'd have died years ago.

 

[RichardFirst]

I think I'd curl up and cry the day the government bans apple seeds and the price of all apple related products skyrocket.

If they do, my sees stash would be a good investment

 

[Fwompje]

I was already joking that people try to overdose on goddamn everything and we will likely see a post asking on how to overdose on Nutella or Cheetos. I'm not sure if this post just shows the general direction, or is it even better

No shit, saw a thread asking if OP could overdose on eating icecream

Why not collect apple seeds. A simple pill bottle container will do. I do not think they would spoil over time. The problem is how many seed do I need to get the job done. To many unknowns to calculate at this time.

Doesn't seem like you read the rest of the thread. You would probably need 5800 apple seeds.

 

[Disaster]

No shit, saw a thread asking if OP could overdose on eating icecream

Doesn't seem like you read the rest of the thread. You would probably need 5800 apple seeds.

Counting those seeds and getting the wrong number each time would make me reconsider other methods too. I guess I might even consider a train, which is not my method at all, because one train, if "correctly applied" seems to be the lethal dose

Jokes aside, even in plants that are important for producing certain chemicals, for example coffee for containing caffeine and tobacco for containing nicotine, the amount of the desired substance may vary depending on many factors. I bet in apples, which are not produced for this substance in their seeds, it may vary even more, just like the amount of sugars and acids depends on various factors beyond our cognition. So even being really good at maths won't help you, if those pesky apples simply won't feel like being so deadly this year. Honestly this method sounds less deadly than just traveling to Australia, eating a random wild plant, lying on the ground and waiting for the snakes and spiders to finish you. I've heard that they have great antivenoms, but still it sounds like a more viable method of ctb
Ok, trying to create new, not very viable but amusing methods is fun.