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qw3rty259

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Jun 19, 2023
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Just curious to read their last thoughts maybe.

It sucks that it's not possible to talk to those who succeed, lol, or at least to know their thoughts about the pain during the process like it's possible with SN.

Tho I've talked about it with my friend who tried hanging and survived by managing to step back on the bed. I know that the pain is immense... They were shocked by intensity of it, that's why they backed up

Anyway, I'd like to read someone's last thoughts before hanging if there are some believable cases
 
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Innereye

Know thy self
Jan 18, 2020
301
It's a curious subject. Seems like a super unreliable method to me both because of how gruesome it is, and the technical issues associated.
 
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Privateer2368

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Aug 18, 2024
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It hurts a lot more than I expected, but it'll do the job if you see it through.
I managed to get myself down after I realised my best friend would find me and that it would probably break her.

It hurts a lot- like A LOT- but that wasn't what stopped me. If there were any roof fittings in the building that would take an adult man's weight, I'd be gone.

Deaths by hanging are not uncommon. Seen plenty around my way.
 
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Vivir_O_No

twojei
Dec 10, 2023
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Just curious to read their last thoughts maybe.

It sucks that it's not possible to talk to those who succeed, lol, or at least to know their thoughts about the pain during the process like it's possible with SN.

Tho I've talked about it with my friend who tried hanging and survived by managing to step back on the bed. I know that the pain is immense... They were shocked by intensity of it, that's why they backed up

Anyway, I'd like to read someone's last thoughts before hanging if there are some believable cases
I have tried partial a few times and it is horrendous for sure. it takes a lot of courage to achieve it.
 
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Suicidal_manlet

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Mar 9, 2024
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I have tried partial a few times and it is horrendous for sure. it takes a lot of courage to achieve it.
It's not for everyone, Just like how SN feels a terrible method for me even though it's guaranteed to cause no major trouble but the thought of poisoning myself is terrifying to me but hanging seems more peaceful to me and more comfortable for me it's just depends on person to person
 
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qw3rty259

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Jun 19, 2023
265
I have tried partial a few times and it is horrendous for sure. it takes a lot of courage to achieve it.
That's why I won't do partial. It also seems like you can do inevitable damage to yourself with this method and stay alive.

And when doing full suspension it takes courage to just do a move. Then there's no turning back no matter how painful it feels
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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No method is easy because the body wants to live even if we don't. Anybody who even makes an attempt is very brave.
 
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finallydone

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Aug 18, 2024
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well you can't hear stories from the people who succeeded but you can hear them from the people who didn't, and from what i've heard in full-suspension the pain lasts anywhere from 10 to 20 seconds and then you pass out
 
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qw3rty259

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Jun 19, 2023
265
It's a curious subject. Seems like a super unreliable method to me both because of how gruesome it is, and the technical issues associated.
What? That's the most reliable method. What technical issues? To tie a noose knot? You're kidding.
well you can't hear stories from the people who succeeded but you can hear them from the people who didn't, and from what i've heard in full-suspension the pain lasts anywhere from 10 to 20 seconds and then you pass out
How did those people fail tho? Did someone was near and rescue them?
 
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babouflo201223

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Aug 18, 2024
271
To tie a noose knot seems very easy indeed, but it's necessary that the knot slips very well in the way that the rope could be constrictive enough around the neck, not so evident in fact. And not so evident either to find exactly the perfect place for the knot, behind the neck in the middle (most of people say but I read completely different advices too, so I'm a bit lost).
People who failed (full suspension) were certainly rescued before it was too late. What is the real intensity of the pain, certainly very strong, it's rather easy to imagine. It's the main problem that make me hesitant. Taking pills to sleep before falling seems to me not enough to break SI. SI is so strong that you will wake up. Even with a mix sleeping pills + alcohool. It would need something to be really in unconsciousness and next fall with the head in the noose knot, but not easy to find believable things for that.
In fact, I have the same questions as yours and would like to read believable words from people who were rescued (full suspension) and describing their feelings, etc. There are something like that here, I just don't remember where, but not enough to have a complete idea, and yes, there are some differences according to people.
 
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qw3rty259

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but it's necessary that the knot slips very well
Ehm? I'll just use a noose knot. It just tightens around your neck with your body weight. And it should be tightened before the suspension by the user too, so it could get a good grip around the neck from the start.
And not so evident either to find exactly the perfect place for the knot, behind the neck in the middle
It's logical to place it behind the neck in the middle. That way it'll constraint the throat effectively. That's how I'm gonna do it. I also saw a video of a person who placed the knot on the side of the neck. Because of the wacky position the knot was affecting only one side of the neck. they were suffocating for too long, apparently were able to get some amount of oxygen and tried to escape, that was sad to watch. But it should be said they also used cloth instead of a rope and not very good knot, so it probably affected the whole process as well. But they were successful anyway.
 
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Abyssal

Probably gonna die soon maybe?
Nov 26, 2023
1,331
"Believable" lol imagine dying and some dude doesn't even believe your last words
 
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qw3rty259

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Jun 19, 2023
265
"Believable" lol imagine dying and some dude doesn't even believe your last words
There always can be bad actors who like attention, cause you basically can't prove it unless the user gave up a lot of info about themselves and the news coverage of the act can be tied to it.

I also don't see any relevance in the fact that someone doesn't believe someone's last words due to reasons described above. I imagine myself in that position. i wouldn't gaf
"Believable"
And by that i meant at least the fact that the person didn't login to the site for a long time from the last message about ending it
 
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Thisisnotaname

Freedom or death
Aug 27, 2024
418
Be respectful plx
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Illuminated
Mar 21, 2019
3,111
The quality of you rope will help with the comfort. I practiced with 1/2 inch double braided dock line. No pain, just pressure.
Thin rope will cause pain.
Use a good slip knot. Noose knots have a lot of internal resistance. They may tighten, but slowly and possibly not enough.
I like an overhand loop knot at one end of the rope. If you pass the other end through the loop, you have a good, tightening knot.
Overhand loop knot
 
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athiestjoe

Passenger
Sep 24, 2024
410
There always can be bad actors who like attention, cause you basically can't prove it unless the user gave up a lot of info about themselves and the news coverage of the act can be tied to it.

While you're technically 'right', it's also important to respect others and the experiences they share. Without confirmation or observation, it would indeed just be an anecdote, and like anything online, it could lack reliability.

Imagine putting effort into the site seeking self-deliverance, only to have people question your authenticity after you are gone? That would feel pretty unfair and shitty, but I fully understand the challenge of not being able to "prove" that it happened. I hear you, but let's err on the side of going with 'presumed successful' without potentially degrading other people's experiences they have been gracious enough to share with us!

And by that i meant at least the fact that the person didn't login to the site for a long time from the last message about ending it
Anyway, I'd like to read someone's last thoughts before hanging if there are some believable cases

Here are a few (some) goodbye threads from users who reported hanging as their method who have not been seen since: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]

And when doing full suspension it takes courage to just do a move. Then there's no turning back no matter how painful it feels
That's part of why it's a time-tested method—dating back as long as humanity has used ligatures. It's remarkably effective unless someone intervenes or the anchor point fails. When executed correctly, it's very reliable. Which is why in America it remains the #2 method behind firearms, the #1 method in Canada, and the #1 method for men in the UK and now also the #1 method for women in the UK (it used to be #2; so regardless if #1 or #2, speaks volumes still), the #1 method in Australia, #1 across Europe, etc, etc, etc. It is widely known for its reliability, access to the materials needed without restrictions like other methods might need (such as guns). Buying a good rope is cheap and easy to purchase for most people. In fact, it is probably among the most cost effective methods in addition to its reliability.

No wonder it is so popular:
  • Cost effective
  • Relatively easy
  • Lethally effective
  • Legal (not sure anyone has any sort of legal restriction to buying or making rope)
  • Simple
  • Peaceful (loss of consciousness is rapid when properly done)
Of course the biggest downside is the risk of potential long-term damage if you are rescued or if you hang for a bit then have the anchor point give out or the rope breaks and you survive thereafter. The logistics can be a little difficult for some but I suspect people very motivated without other means have absolutely considered this. Of course, the SI can be a bitch to overcome with this method but that can exist with any method to varying degrees. But given given it's #1 (well #2 in the USA) ranking, people obviously can and do frequently overcome it but anyone in that much tremendous pain and suffering likely have come to the end of their rope (no pun intended) anyways to bring them to the point they are able to step off the chair/stool/whatever it is in order to do the hanging. It certainly is not for everyone who wants self deliverance and I fully can understand the reasons why. Every method certainly has its pros/cons of course. In balance, hanging has a lot of very solid pros for it which is why it is statistically so popular.

No method is easy because the body wants to live even if we don't.
Abolustely correct!

It's logical to place it behind the neck in the middle. That way it'll constraint the throat effectively.
It's less about constricting the "throat"—which many might associate with the windpipe—and more about cutting off the supply to the carotid arteries. When people hear "throat," it often brings to mind images of the esophagus or the pharynx, at least for me.

they were suffocating for too long
It seems there may be some misunderstanding about what constitutes a good hanging. While it's absolutely true that tightening a ligature around the neck can obstruct the airway, leading to suffocation and oxygen deprivation, the most effective method compresses the carotid arteries, which supply blood to the brain. This compression causes a rapid decrease in blood flow, resulting in unconsciousness within seconds. If the pressure continues, it will lead to brain death. Granted, I will give you that this could be difficult to know or pull off precisely and the result is going to yield the same - death.

To clarify, most statistics regarding hanging do often refer to "suffocation (including hanging)" or "hanging/suffocation," which is a valid perspective on why you said that. However, it's important to acknowledge that, barring rescue or a failure in the anchor point, hanging is one of the most reliably fatal methods. Ultimately, whether death results from lack of oxygen to the brain or suffocation, the outcome remains which bodes well for this method.

These posts may be helpful [1][2][3][4][5] to help with your research on how hanging works/method behind it, as would the Hanging MegaThread.

Be respectful plx
Agreed fully with this.

Hope something in here is helpful in your educational quest, and I hope you find everything you are looking for and get peace & serenity.
 
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finallydone

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Aug 18, 2024
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How did those people fail tho? Did someone was near and rescue them?
either that or sometimes it's whatever they hooked their ropes to failing be it a tree branch or anything similar
 
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babouflo201223

Experienced
Aug 18, 2024
271
The quality of you rope will help with the comfort. I practiced with 1/2 inch double braided dock line. No pain, just pressure.
Thin rope will cause pain.
Use a good slip knot. Noose knots have a lot of internal resistance. They may tighten, but slowly and possibly not enough.
I like an overhand loop knot at one end of the rope. If you pass the other end through the loop, you have a good, tightening knot.
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I try to make your overhand loop knot (as described on the drawing in 4 steps) but it doesn't slip at all... Is it THIS knot to put the head inside or to be used as "ancrage point" ? Sorry, maybe I misunderstood something...
 
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ctbsd24

Member
Oct 8, 2024
89
I may or may not stream my hanging for everyone - for educational purposes. If I do, you can file me under the "believable" cases.
 
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CannotAnymore

Student
Apr 29, 2022
100
In my country hanging is probably the most common way that people ctb. I think most of the people who suceed don't practice and don't have a 'safety' option. Like if you have no way to stop it once you've started then you just have to suffer through it.
If you are lucky the fall is from a high enough place that your neck with snap before you really begin hangining.

If you have a way to stop it, then chances are you will... the key is not having that saftey net....
 
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Thisisnotaname

Freedom or death
Aug 27, 2024
418
I try to make your overhand loop knot (as described on the drawing in 4 steps) but it doesn't slip at all... Is it THIS knot to put the head inside or to be used as "ancrage point" ? Sorry, maybe I misunderstood something...
Just settle for a simple 8 knot because it is obvious that you can't pass the loop around the anchor point. The person who recommends it has obviously never done knots
 
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babouflo201223

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271
Dans mon pays, la pendaison est probablement la méthode la plus courante utilisée par les gens pour pratiquer le TC. Je pense que la plupart des gens qui réussissent ne s'entraînent pas et n'ont pas d'option de « sécurité ». Comme si vous n'aviez aucun moyen de vous arrêter une fois que vous avez commencé, vous n'avez qu'à souffrir.
Si vous avez de la chance, la chute se fera d'un endroit suffisamment haut pour que votre cou se brise avant que vous ne commenciez vraiment à vous supporter.

Si vous avez un moyen de l'arrêter, alors il ya de fortes chances que vous y parveniez... la clé est de ne pas avoir ce filet de sécurité...

Dans mon pays, la pendaison est probablement la méthode la plus courante utilisée par les gens pour pratiquer le TC. Je pense que la plupart des gens qui réussissent ne s'entraînent pas et n'ont pas d'option de « sécurité ». Comme si vous n'aviez aucun moyen de vous arrêter une fois que vous avez commencé, vous n'avez qu'à souffrir.
Si vous avez de la chance, la chute se fera d'un endroit suffisamment haut pour que votre cou se brise avant que vous ne commenciez vraiment à vous suspendre.

Si vous avez un moyen de l'arrêter, alors il y a de fortes chances que vous y parveniez... la clé est de ne pas avoir ce filet de sécurité...
I believed that too, but in fact falling from a high place to break the neck seems to be a bad option. Even if the neck is broken, you don't fall into unconsciousness faster, it's just that you "seem" dead faster because you can't move from your neck to your toes, but suffering (painful head and neck) is unfortunately the same. Please search more informations about that and you will find what I've just explained.
 
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CannotAnymore

Student
Apr 29, 2022
100
I believed that too, but in fact falling from a high place to break the neck seems to be a bad option. Even if the neck is broken, you don't fall into unconsciousness faster, it's just that you "seem" dead faster because you can't move from your neck to your toes, but suffering (painful head and neck) is unfortunately the same. Please search more informations about that and you will find what I've just explained.
It's literally a part of my coutry's history.....
 
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babouflo201223

Experienced
Aug 18, 2024
271
Just settle for a simple 8 knot because it is obvious that you can't pass the loop around the anchor point. The person who recommends it has obviously never done knots
What is a 8 knot ? A picture/photo ? Sorry, it's sometimes difficult for me to understand right, I don't speak engliwh very well. Thank you.
 
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Thisisnotaname

Freedom or death
Aug 27, 2024
418
What is a 8 knot ? A picture/photo ? Sorry, it's sometimes difficult for me to understand right, I don't speak engliwh very well. Thank you.
Je t'invite donc à rechercher le noeud de huit simple, qui se fait autour d'un point d'ancrage. Pas le double. Tu peux le trouver facilement sur internet
 
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babouflo201223

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Je t'invite donc à rechercher le noeud de huit simple, qui se fait autour d'un point d'ancrage. Pas le double. Tu peux le trouver facilement sur internet

Je t'invite donc à rechercher le noeud de huit simple, qui se fait autour d'un point d'ancrage. Pas le double. Tu peux le trouver facilement sur internet
Ok, so it's a knot for the "ancrage point", not the knot to put the head inside. Right ?
 
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cracklingroses

Member
Sep 10, 2023
59
To tie a noose knot seems very easy indeed, but it's necessary that the knot slips very well in the way that the rope could be constrictive enough around the neck, not so evident in fact. And not so evident either to find exactly the perfect place for the knot, behind the neck in the middle (most of people say but I read completely different advices too, so I'm a bit lost).
People who failed (full suspension) were certainly rescued before it was too late. What is the real intensity of the pain, certainly very strong, it's rather easy to imagine. It's the main problem that make me hesitant. Taking pills to sleep before falling seems to me not enough to break SI. SI is so strong that you will wake up. Even with a mix sleeping pills + alcohool. It would need something to be really in unconsciousness and next fall with the head in the noose knot, but not easy to find believable things for that.
In fact, I have the same questions as yours and would like to read believable words from people who were rescued (full suspension) and describing their feelings, etc. There are something like that here, I just don't remember where, but not enough to have a complete idea, and yes, there are some differences according to people.
That is helpful to know about the SI even with pills and alcohol because that was my plan. Get myself ready and then take enough to black out and fall off the chair or stool or whatever. I've always worried that the pain and shock would wake me up even with blacking out. That is terrifying. I wish there was a simple attempt. Even seeing so many people survive gun shots is like... damn. I've always wondered how people I know managed to do it. Especially since a few managed to over dose. Then I wonder at all the deaths caused by the Benadryl challenge, even though people say OD doesn't have a high lethality rate. I'm sure there was more to the context of those situations. It is just so hopeless to be trapped and alive like this. I survived an OD in August because I was found too soon. I always wonder if I would have made it if I wasn't found.
 
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Thisisnotaname

Freedom or death
Aug 27, 2024
418
Ok, so it's a knot for the "ancrage point", not the knot to put the head inside. Right ?
C'est ça. Pour mon coup je vais utiliser un Slipknot, je ne connais pas la traduction désolé
 
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Worndown

Illuminated
Mar 21, 2019
3,111
Not everyone is good with knots. There are a lot of them for climbing, sailing, ranching and shipping.
Ask questions if needed since knots can be used in many ways. Google helps.
Rope knots types nautical knot cartoon cord loop node overhand square bowline sailor bend fish
 
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Gustav Hartmann

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Aug 28, 2021
747
It is only painful if the rope is to thin. I, 90 kg, used a 20 mm mooring rope, a non constricting noose, placed the knot between eye and ear and passed out within 5 to 15 seconds. It is not painful at all, I did it a number of times, my partner let me down as soon as I passed out.
 
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