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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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Most people perhaps have heard of such a statement or quote being passed around when referring to certain actions and decisions, not necessarily linked or related to CTB, but in the context of CTB, I would claim that "It's better to [neither] ask for forgiveness, [nor] than permission [when it comes to CTB.]" I hold this claim and position because for one, it is not possible to ask for forgiveness if one is successful, they (literally) will not be around to experience the aftermath of a successful CTB (no regret, suffering, or anything). In fact, the survivors and bereaved are the ones who face the aftermath, but I digress. Then also, given how we continually and perpetually live in an anti-choice, pro-lifer society, asking for permission is nearly non-existent, even in countries with very liberal right to die, medical assistance in death (MAID) policies, because one has to jump through obscene amounts of hoops as well as meet many narrow criteria in order to be eligible for such services and be given approval. While it is better than countries that don't even offer the right to die or MAID, it is still very arduous and difficult to access.

So why is it better to do (or would do) neither?
In the first case, if one succeeds, then whatever happens to the individual after CTB is irrelevant towards the individual as the individual is no longer sentient to experience the aftermath. However, if it is the other case, failure, then forgiveness is still somewhat the lesser of worst outcomes than permission as asking for forgiveness may mitigate and soften the aftermath, at least to the eyes of the pro-lifers.

Why is it bad to ask for permission?
It is not a good idea given that we still live in a very anti-choice and hostile society that does not recognize nor tolerate pro-choice values when it comes to bodily autonomy regarding death and right to die. More oftenly than not, these pro-lifers would see it as some 'duty and mission' to actively sabotage and/or stop the individual from CTB'ing and feel good about it, at the expense and detriment to the pro-choice.

Overall, when it comes to the right to die and CTB, it is better for said individual, logically and safely to neither ask for forgiveness. If they succeed (because they can no longer experience sentience nor have the capability, or ability to do so) asking for forgiveness is no longer possible nor relevant; though if they fail, then asking for forgiveness would be the lesser of two evils as it would be an attempt to soften the consequences that follow. Most pro-lifers would soften their reactions and could at least make some arduous interactions less arduous and less painful. Asking for permission would only invite further unwanted scrutiny as well as compromise one's (active) plan to CTB and only cause further suffering as well as undue stress to the pro-choicer.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

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Sep 1, 2018
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I'm glad you tagged this with [article ] otherwise I'd have just assumed it was a post and not considered its importance, mods can we have a [post] tag for things that aren't articles