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Disclaimer: This subject matter can be triggering for people with dense ego structures. It can also be destabilising for people who might experience a shift in consciousness purely by being exposed to this material. Please only proceed if you have a legitimate respect for this subject matter.
I've commented a few times and from various angles about consciousness.
This is based on the perspective of Eastern philosophies (and their Western counterparts), with the climax of each discussion the claim that 'enlightenment' is a real thing which happens to real people.
This thread is dedicated to case studies of actual awakenings. I am using terms like awakening/enlightenment/realisation very loosely, since what matters at this stage is the big realisation that the separate self, the 'me' identity, is not real. Obviously, we are not talking about an intellectual understanding or even a passing experience, but a permanent shift at the most fundamental level: the level of identity.
Ramana Maharshi
Starting at the top, Ramana is in my view the ultimate sage. Unlike most gurus, he had no dubious character flaws and exhibited no questionable behaviours. He never touched money, never had any relationships, had no scandals and his presence was so powerful that people often had awakenings just by being around him.
Word got out and people flocked to Tiruvannamalai (South India) from around the world. His teachings were well documented. To this day, his words carry immense power, though his highest teaching was silent sitting. His most common verbal teaching was, "You are already the Self." This message, understood deeply, is very direct and can trigger an awakening. Failing that, he promoted the technique of self-enquiry; asking 'Who am I?' as a method of realising the Self.
Back in the late 19th century, Ramama fully realised the Self at the age of 16 in the midst of a panic attack. He had no way of getting help and was sure he was going to die, so he decided to watch to see who is going to die. In that moment, he realised himself as the birthless, deathless Self, and would never fear death again. After this, he found himself drawn to the sacred mountain of Arunachala where he spent the rest of his physical life, which ended in 1950.
There was no formal lineage. Only twice did Ramana declare beings enlightened, and in both cases after their deaths. However, a number of his followers went on to become spiritual teachers themselves.
Papaji
One such teacher became known as Papaji. His own awakening occurred as a result of an incessant search for God. In response to this question, Ramana explained that God cannot be found as an external object and he must look inwards via the question "Who Am I?" This was the teaching that finally ended Papaji's life-long search.
In this video, probably filmed in the late '80s or early '90s (he died in 1997), Papaji artfully guides a seeker to her awakening. The verbal teaching itself could be summed up as "The Self is no distance from where you already are." (When seekers are ripe, simple teachings like this are utterly explosive.) The video goes for 8 minutes.
Mooji
One of Papaji's followers, later known as Mooji, had his big moment in response to Papaji telling him the following, "If you want to know the truth, you must disappear."
While there is again no formal lineage from Ramana to Papaji, nor from Papaji to Mooji (indeed, this is an incendiary topic to many Ramana devotees who are critical of his successors), I have gotten value from Mooji's teachings. He still produces masses of YouTube videos to this day.
The one I'm interested in today is the experience of a woman who had an awakening in response to one of Mooji's one-liners: "The mind doesn't exist." Again, a typical teaching with the power to detonate the ego when it is truly heard. The later parts of this 10-minute video show the result.
That's enough for today, but more to come.
I've commented a few times and from various angles about consciousness.
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Life is...
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The Duality of Yin & Yang: Bad is Good and Good is Bad?
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The Essence of Eastern Philosophy
G'day all, Firstly, thanks to the mods for doing a subforum of this nature, not too dissimilar to my earlier suggestion. It is appreciated and I retract my criticisms. In the past, I've tried making posts about Eastern philosophy, but failed to deliver a simple and digestible message. The true...
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This is based on the perspective of Eastern philosophies (and their Western counterparts), with the climax of each discussion the claim that 'enlightenment' is a real thing which happens to real people.
This thread is dedicated to case studies of actual awakenings. I am using terms like awakening/enlightenment/realisation very loosely, since what matters at this stage is the big realisation that the separate self, the 'me' identity, is not real. Obviously, we are not talking about an intellectual understanding or even a passing experience, but a permanent shift at the most fundamental level: the level of identity.
Ramana Maharshi
Starting at the top, Ramana is in my view the ultimate sage. Unlike most gurus, he had no dubious character flaws and exhibited no questionable behaviours. He never touched money, never had any relationships, had no scandals and his presence was so powerful that people often had awakenings just by being around him.
Word got out and people flocked to Tiruvannamalai (South India) from around the world. His teachings were well documented. To this day, his words carry immense power, though his highest teaching was silent sitting. His most common verbal teaching was, "You are already the Self." This message, understood deeply, is very direct and can trigger an awakening. Failing that, he promoted the technique of self-enquiry; asking 'Who am I?' as a method of realising the Self.
Back in the late 19th century, Ramama fully realised the Self at the age of 16 in the midst of a panic attack. He had no way of getting help and was sure he was going to die, so he decided to watch to see who is going to die. In that moment, he realised himself as the birthless, deathless Self, and would never fear death again. After this, he found himself drawn to the sacred mountain of Arunachala where he spent the rest of his physical life, which ended in 1950.
There was no formal lineage. Only twice did Ramana declare beings enlightened, and in both cases after their deaths. However, a number of his followers went on to become spiritual teachers themselves.
Papaji
One such teacher became known as Papaji. His own awakening occurred as a result of an incessant search for God. In response to this question, Ramana explained that God cannot be found as an external object and he must look inwards via the question "Who Am I?" This was the teaching that finally ended Papaji's life-long search.
In this video, probably filmed in the late '80s or early '90s (he died in 1997), Papaji artfully guides a seeker to her awakening. The verbal teaching itself could be summed up as "The Self is no distance from where you already are." (When seekers are ripe, simple teachings like this are utterly explosive.) The video goes for 8 minutes.
Mooji
One of Papaji's followers, later known as Mooji, had his big moment in response to Papaji telling him the following, "If you want to know the truth, you must disappear."
While there is again no formal lineage from Ramana to Papaji, nor from Papaji to Mooji (indeed, this is an incendiary topic to many Ramana devotees who are critical of his successors), I have gotten value from Mooji's teachings. He still produces masses of YouTube videos to this day.
The one I'm interested in today is the experience of a woman who had an awakening in response to one of Mooji's one-liners: "The mind doesn't exist." Again, a typical teaching with the power to detonate the ego when it is truly heard. The later parts of this 10-minute video show the result.
That's enough for today, but more to come.