Clearing up misconceptions about the next Trump Administration

[waterrrrrrrrrbottel]

Hello friends, I've noticed many of you scared and resorting to suicide early because Trump has been re elected. I follow politics closely, I want to clear some things up. (To be clear, I don't support Trump. I'm as devastated as you guys)

Queer folks and women, you won't lose any more rights than you have right now. Everything will be kept at a state-level, where revoking rights is still a very unpopular concept.

Immigrants, specifically those who seeked asylum, Trump will try to come after you. This is something that will likely happen. BUT, success will be futile. It's too inefficient, mass deportation is extremely unrealistic for any country of this size.

The economy will get worse, expect it to get much worse, under Trump. I suggest buying American things ONLY where you can if you're struggling because of the tariffs that will be imposed between now and 2026.

To all marginalized groups, rhetoric will get worse. And it will get worse fast. I'm sorry to say this. Bigotry will be at an all time high. Stay safe, stay together. We will endure.

If you have any more questions, leave them below. I just wanted to clear things up.

 

[ceilng_tile]

States have been taking rights away in droves. Women are bleeding to death in emergency rooms. Florida is pulling books out of schools. Teenagers are being forced to detransition. Even something as benign as drag is illegal in some places.

 

[waterrrrrrrrrbottel]

States have been taking rights away in droves. Women are bleeding to death in emergency rooms. Florida is pulling books out of schools. Teenagers are being forced to detransition. Even something as benign as drag is illegal in some places.

Abortion has never won a vote to be more strict on a state ballot since roe was overturned, all those abortion laws were set up by lawmakers. I am very confident they won't go any further with it. I do think Florida is going to get worse. I cry for the queer kids in that state.

 

[Omnia131]

i don't expect to lose most basic rights like voting or owning a bank account but the dumbing down of education, mistreatment of minorities & LGBTQ will have long reaching affects for years even after Trump. Now more than ever with social media where we see these action in real time and people still defend him & his cabin being horrible people to anyone that isn't like them.

 

[Rational man]

Hello friends, I've noticed many of you scared and resorting to suicide early because Trump has been re elected. I follow politics closely, I want to clear some things up. (To be clear, I don't support Trump. I'm as devastated as you guys)

Queer folks and women, you won't lose any more rights than you have right now. Everything will be kept at a state-level, where revoking rights is still a very unpopular concept.

Immigrants, specifically those who seeked asylum, Trump will try to come after you. This is something that will likely happen. BUT, success will be futile. It's too inefficient, mass deportation is extremely unrealistic for any country of this size.

The economy will get worse, expect it to get much worse, under Trump. I suggest buying American things ONLY where you can if you're struggling because of the tariffs that will be imposed between now and 2026.

To all marginalized groups, rhetoric will get worse. And it will get worse fast. I'm sorry to say this. Bigotry will be at an all time high. Stay safe, stay together. We will endure.

If you have any more questions, leave them below. I just wanted to clear things up.

How does Trump view legally assisted dying in America?. Is there likely to be changes here. I ask because I believe our leader in UK, Starmer has shown signs of backtracking on some issues and I fear our pending UK bill on legal assistance may fall away.!

 

[RIPwednesdayadams]

Hello friends, I've noticed many of you scared and resorting to suicide early because Trump has been re elected. I follow politics closely, I want to clear some things up. (To be clear, I don't support Trump. I'm as devastated as you guys)

Queer folks and women, you won't lose any more rights than you have right now. Everything will be kept at a state-level, where revoking rights is still a very unpopular concept.

Immigrants, specifically those who seeked asylum, Trump will try to come after you. This is something that will likely happen. BUT, success will be futile. It's too inefficient, mass deportation is extremely unrealistic for any country of this size.

The economy will get worse, expect it to get much worse, under Trump. I suggest buying American things ONLY where you can if you're struggling because of the tariffs that will be imposed between now and 2026.

To all marginalized groups, rhetoric will get worse. And it will get worse fast. I'm sorry to say this. Bigotry will be at an all time high. Stay safe, stay together. We will endure.

If you have any more questions, leave them below. I just wanted to clear things up.

No offense, but I don't think you have the pertinent info to be clearing anything up. We experienced what happened last time and are acting accordingly. We're scared not just because of Trump, but also Project 2025 and everything the right plans on doing. Look what they have been able to accomplish since 2016. Good thing there are running lists:

Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks

Documenting the Trump administration’s across-the-board assault on civil and human rights.

civilrights.org

https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community

No, Trump and GOP Have Not ‘Softened’ on Abortion, Women’s Rights

The language change in their platforms is a nakedly dishonest bait and switch.

prospect.org

How does Trump view legally assisted dying in America?. Is there likely to be changes here. I ask because I believe our leader in UK, Starmer has shown signs of backtracking on some issues and I fear our pending UK bill on legal assistance may fall away.!

Considering the fact that Trump has aligned himself with the conservative evangelical right wing— fat fucking chance. The only legally assisted dying under his watch is by being a casualty in a future mass shooting. /s

 

[Rational man]

No offense, but I don't think you have the pertinent info to be clearing anything up. We experienced what happened last time and are acting accordingly. We're scared not just because of Trump, but also Project 2025 and everything the right plans on doing. Look what they have been able to accomplish since 2016. Good thing there are running lists:

Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks

Documenting the Trump administration’s across-the-board assault on civil and human rights.

civilrights.org

https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community

No, Trump and GOP Have Not ‘Softened’ on Abortion, Women’s Rights

The language change in their platforms is a nakedly dishonest bait and switch.

prospect.org

Considering the fact that Trump has aligned himself with the conservative evangelical right wing— fat fucking chance. The only legally assisted dying under his watch is by being a casualty in a future mass shooting. /s

Sad to hear this .

 

[mrpeter]

Abortion has never won a vote to be more strict on a state ballot since roe was overturned, all those abortion laws were set up by lawmakers. I am very confident they won't go any further with it. I do think Florida is going to get worse. I cry for the queer kids in that state.

lol florida is where i live

Florida’s Latest Anti-LGBTQ Law Legalizes Medical Discrimination

LGBTQ advocates say that the “Protections of Medical Conscience” bill gives medical providers a license to discriminate.

truthout.org

 

[Deleted member 8119]

States have been taking rights away in droves. Women are bleeding to death in emergency rooms. Florida is pulling books out of schools. Teenagers are being forced to detransition. Even something as benign as drag is illegal in some places.

But like, that's nothing new, and in the time Trump was not in power this failed to be properly addressed.

Not that I support it by any means, but if you think this is brand new and a sole person responsible for it, you're completely deluded.

 

[nofunclub]

Queer folks and women, you won't lose any more rights than you have right now. Everything will be kept at a state-level, where revoking rights is still a very unpopular concept.

Even if Trump/Vance fail to roll back rights federally or ban abortion nationwide (which is a big if), the Supreme Court will continue to be filled with conservative lunatics for the next 40 years. They are already intent on rolling back gay marriage, decriminalization of sodomy, and the right to have access to contraceptives among other things (see the Dobbs opinion's footnotes). And more civil rights cases will be brought to them with the intention of targeting us.

Also saying it will be kept on the state level is not very reassuring for those who live in red states tbh :/

 

[illvoid]

Even if Trump/Vance fail to roll back rights federally or ban abortion nationwide (which is a big if), the Supreme Court will continue to be filled with conservative lunatics for the next 40 years. They are already intent on rolling back gay marriage, decriminalization of sodomy, and the right to have access to contraceptives among other things (see the Dobbs opinion's footnotes). And more civil rights cases will be brought to them with the intention of targeting us.

Also saying it will be kept on the state level is not very reassuring for those who live in red states tbh :/

Seriously! I'm trans and I might be forced out of my home in Alabama because of this.

 

[waterrrrrrrrrbottel]

How does Trump view legally assisted dying in America?. Is there likely to be changes here. I ask because I believe our leader in UK, Starmer has shown signs of backtracking on some issues and I fear our pending UK bill on legal assistance may fall away.!

It's not something that would be brought up I feel. But if it was, I think he would be in support. It aligns more with Republican values.

No offense, but I don't think you have the pertinent info to be clearing anything up. We experienced what happened last time and are acting accordingly. We're scared not just because of Trump, but also Project 2025 and everything the right plans on doing. Look what they have been able to accomplish since 2016. Good thing there are running lists:

Project 2025 doesn't have nearly enough time to sprinkle itself in. There is no senate supermajority, democrats will be hard at work filibustering. Then in 2026 we're getting a democratic landslide. I'm not scared of it, I don't think anyone should expect it.

Even if Trump/Vance fail to roll back rights federally or ban abortion nationwide (which is a big if), the Supreme Court will continue to be filled with conservative lunatics for the next 40 years. They are already intent on rolling back gay marriage, decriminalization of sodomy, and the right to have access to contraceptives among other things (see the Dobbs opinion's footnotes). And more civil rights cases will be brought to them with the intention of targeting us.

Also saying it will be kept on the state level is not very reassuring for those who live in red states tbh :/

Trump likely won't fill any more spots in 4 years, except for already existing Republican spots. Yeah SCOTUS is an issue, but it's been an issue since the first time around, I was more focused on what could happen starting with his second term. I understand though, I'm sorry if I came off like "it'll all be okay", I just wanted to reassure some of you folks about what'll actually happen. This sucks, undoubtably.

Seriously! I'm trans and I might be forced out of my home in Alabama because of this.

I'm sorry about this. How are the laws around queer people there as of right now?

 

[ConstantPain]

lol florida is where i live

Florida’s Latest Anti-LGBTQ Law Legalizes Medical Discrimination

LGBTQ advocates say that the “Protections of Medical Conscience” bill gives medical providers a license to discriminate.

truthout.org

Me too and I hate it! I am a New Yorker who has lived in Florida for 9 years and this state gets worse and worse.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I hate that I'm going to have to hear about every idiotic thing Trump and his inevitably batshit cabinet do or say. I'm still fatigued from the last time he was president.

 

[Winterreise]

I dont remember when I was a spermcell .
I dont remember when I was a fetus.
I dont remember being born.
I dont know when life really begins.

 

[Kta1994]

Im not gonna be around to watch any of that but i fear for my LGBT people

 

[MelancholyMagic]

We experienced what happened last time and are acting accordingly

What happened last time? (Two or three quick things, if you're willing to share). I know Trump filled Supreme Court vacancies, which led to the overturning of Roe, and will have negative ramifications for decades to come. But I'm not sure what else he did to warrant this doom and gloom. Doom and gloom may be warranted, but for other, non-political reasons!

 

[Dot]

I hate that I'm going to have to hear about every idiotic thing Trump and his inevitably batshit cabinet do or say. I'm still fatigued from the last time he was president.

Sme

Constnt covrge of evry commnt or problmatc b-havr ws xhaustng

#MkePoltcsBorngAgn

 

[Winterreise]

I would mess up on purpose. Sabotage the surroundings
Find ways to do local harm
Make people pay in some way. Do as bad job as I can.
I allready neglecting communal duties

 

[heavyeyes]

Queer people and women will ABSOLUTELY lose more rights. For starters a national abortion ban is eminent once Trump takes office. They will come for gay marriage, contraceptives, HRT, no fault divorce, etc. Even IF most things are kept at a state level everything in red states is going to get worse. And Trump will absolutely want to cut federal funding to blue states like mine out of revenge. I don't doubt things will get worse overall. I no longer trust a large portion of my fellow Americans to protect marginalized people like me and the people I deeply care about.

To everyone who also voted for Harris I see you. You give me hope that perhaps there is still a sliver of decency left in this country

 

[Winterreise]

Decency doesn't work.

 

[egAbwkOofXrX]

I would mess up on purpose. Sabotage the surroundings
Find ways to do local harm
Make people pay in some way. Do as bad job as I can.
I allready neglecting communal duties

I hate my community, most of them support Trump and worse. There are literal neo nazis around my neighborhood and I'm supposed to accept their opinions. Fucked

 

[bluehawk]

Project 2025 is just the beginning they have stated that there are more chapters after Project 2025

basically they have said..... anyone of color or race outside of being "White" will be purged from America in the end. And then they will pursue purifying the white race. There is sooo much more but yes, come Jan if Trump is allowed to take seat??? America is done.

And to those who still deny this are the same people who claimed the Jan 6th insurrection would never happen and that Covid19 was a hoax. Yet ....here we are

 

[wren-briar]

There are literal neo nazis around my neighborhood

I had to work frustratingly close (shoulder-to-shoulder and in nearly non-stop conversations every single workday for just over a year) with a very openly mysogonistic, homophobic, transphobic, racist bigot.

I'm fairly confident that if he wasn't already a neo-nazi, he's become one since then.

It was absolute hell!

Over the last 15+ years, I've been in many similar situations and I've been pretty successful at chipping away at such hatred and opening the other person's eyes -but not with that arrogant excuse of a human being.

About 30 min into my very last day at that company, I finally lost it and came out as a transman. (I pass so much, that most medical providers assume I'm a cis-guy, so clearly I pass to the vast majority of other people.)

Needless to say, my co-workers' minds were clearly , including his!

I think my blow up, in combination with many subsequent conversations that day, helped several other team members seriously reconsider their own bigotry, but I doubt it changed him.

Memories of conversations with him, his utterly despicable hatred of "others", and frankly, my inability to even cause a single micro-facture in his hatred, haunt me almost a decade later.

All of which is to say, I can't imagine having someone like him -or worse, multiple people like him, as neighbors! My heart goes out to you!

As much as you can, please try to chip away at their bigotry and hatred!

 

[Winterreise]

I would stop contributing to a world that is growing even more hostile.
I would drain, sandbag, harm it instead.
That's my lifelong dedication from now on

 

[F@#$]

Nothing like a bullshit political debate in a suicide forum.

 

[wren-briar]

Nothing like a bullshit political debate in a suicide forum.

If it's such bullshit, feel free to not participate in these threads!

 

[CatLvr]

If it's such bullshit, feel free to not participate in these threads!

Nothing like a bullshit political debate in a suicide forum.

Thank y'all!! For that snicker. I needed it today. My hope for all of us is that we can move forward from all this and go back to being "just" waiting on our bus. Politics just sucks the life out of everyone -- those who lost, those who won and those of us who can't stand it. (Remember how devastated the MAGAs were when Biden/Harris won??

I just want to give everyone a hug and hope for better tomorrow. I'm too tired to do anything other than that. I love you all -- even those of you whose politics I don't agree with (yep, I'm one of those poor, poor souls who isn't a R or a D. I'm not even an I. So ... If there was ever anyone whose vote (or thoughts on politics) doesn't matter it's me. No matter what I'm discussing or who I am discussing it with, I'M the one who winds up being the bad guy ... ‍

 

[Winterreise]

Voting for Trump is suicide

 

[egAbwkOofXrX]

Nothing like a bullshit political debate in a suicide forum.

Is it really incomprensible that it may affect someone's will to live? I could pick ANY reason someone has for being suicidal and say it's bullshit. I don't though because I'm not an asshole