NSFW Conflicting feelings about keeping my penis

[Cyagangy]

By the title of the post you can probably assume I feel inadequate or something but no this isn't about that. I was reading the Bible and I remember a verse from Mathew 5:30 that made me question a couple things about myself. After reading it I had the thought to cut off my penis but then I thought that "hey maybe that verse is just Jesus using a metaphor" or atleast I made excuses saying that. Many people argue with me by saying the Bible has tons of crazy rules like you cant wear androgynous clothing or you have to marry your rapist but all the crazy verses are from the old testament and for the most part Christians don't have to follow that. Now the old testament we take as a parable and parts of it as law. Surprisingly enough, Jesus was actually very loose with the laws he passed onto man. Most of the anti gay speech or mysiogonistic verses were handed down by Paul and John. But the verse I remember from Jesus as a rule of thumb was Matthew 5:30

"And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."

I know I struggle with masturbation and so it made since I should cut off my penis, I probably won't but just think of how silly it would be to risk your eternal salvation for something as mortal as a dick? Plus I'm Ace so it's not like I have any reproductive use for it anyway. I found out how I could do it on quora, apparently a rubber band and dry ice could do the trick since I would need to cut off blood circulation to my member and possibly freeze it before cutting. Now of course IF I did do this I would need to treat myself somehow but that would be pointless too because I would still need to self immolate at one point. Now this would also have to include my left hand and if I go by his exact words my right eye must go too. If I can find someone willing to do that surgically then those parts would be gone in an instant. Of course these thoughts or just thoughts and I have a feeling that Jesus is being hyperbolic but if God tells me to do it then I do it without a single question asked.

 

[Jadeith]

It is also said that your body is a temple of God and you don't get to damage or destroy His temple - that's why suicide and self harm is so frown upon.
So, you can:
-stop reading the Bible, seems not so good for your health in general
-if you still want to read it, treat it as a poetic guide not literal law
-work on yourself to find other ways of fulfillment. What those might be? Sorry, can't help much in this regard since i got partner and don't give flying intercourse about the contents of Scripture so we get to fuck whenever we please.
-go to sauna or something, in order to get used to high temperatures and in effect get cozy in hell. After all it seems to me that some cool people ended up in there so your eternity won't be boring

 

[EvisceratedJester]

A lot of the stuff in the bible isn't meant to be taken literally. Please don't cut off your penis or do anything that might harm yourself. So long as you aren't masturbating so much to the point where it is negatively interfering with your day-to-day life then all is fine. Masturbation can even come with some health benefits. Please do not hurt yourself or anything because of stuff you read in the bible. Again, a lot of the stuff in there is not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Darkover]

The fact you are even using the bible has a metric to live your life tells me there something wrong with your common sense your outlook should be rooted in facts and reasoning rather than religious doctrine.

If you're looking at things from a rational, fact-based perspective, then self-harm wouldn't make sense as a response to religious teachings—especially when there's no evidence for an afterlife or divine judgment. Even if someone believes in God, it's worth questioning whether a loving deity would want them to harm themselves over natural human urges.

 

[SVEN]

As Deuteronomy 23:1 states that "no one who has been emasculated by crushing or cutting may enter the Assembly of the Lord" and Jesus repeatedly affirmed and fulfilled the Law it seems likely that this teaching was a parable or illustration, rather than a literal instruction.
Wasn't it Origen who was reputed to have performed this operation on himself, only to discover too late that he had not removed lustful desire, just the means of satisfying it.
Please, think again before self mutilation.

 

[Valhala]

Do not take anything in life (except traffic rules) literally.

 

[Cyagangy]

As Deuteronomy 23:1 states that "no one who has been emasculated by crushing or cutting may enter the Assembly of the Lord" and Jesus repeatedly affirmed and fulfilled the Law it seems likely that this teaching was a parable or illustration, rather than a literal instruction.
Wasn't it Origen who was reputed to have performed this operation on himself, only to discover too late that he had not removed lustful desire, just the means of satisfying it.
Please, think again before self mutilation.

Thanks, I completely forgot about derutonomy but I still take old testament with a grain of salt since it was considered to be rules for the Israelites and since Christians follow the new testament while using the old as a basis.

It is also said that your body is a temple of God and you don't get to damage or destroy His temple - that's why suicide and self harm is so frown upon.
So, you can:
-stop reading the Bible, seems not so good for your health in general
-if you still want to read it, treat it as a poetic guide not literal law
-work on yourself to find other ways of fulfillment. What those might be? Sorry, can't help much in this regard since i got partner and don't give flying intercourse about the contents of Scripture so we get to fuck whenever we please.
-go to sauna or something, in order to get used to high temperatures and in effect get cozy in hell. After all it seems to me that some cool people ended up in there so your eternity won't be boring

Oh yeah that's a good point.

 

[CantTurnBack]

Thank God I'm not religious.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

This entire world would be soooo much better off without religion.

 

[ushina_mashi]

It is also said that your body is a temple of God and you don't get to damage or destroy His temple - that's why suicide and self harm is so frown upon.

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Even if the verse you brought up was meant to be taken literally, doing one "wrong" thing doesn't mean you will go to hell so I'd strongly advise against cutting off any parts of your body.

 

[Cyagangy]

The fact you are even using the bible has a metric to live your life tells me there something wrong with your common sense your outlook should be rooted in facts and reasoning rather than religious doctrine.

If you're looking at things from a rational, fact-based perspective, then self-harm wouldn't make sense as a response to religious teachings—especially when there's no evidence for an afterlife or divine judgment. Even if someone believes in God, it's worth questioning whether a loving deity would want them to harm themselves over natural human urges.

Using the Bible as a metric to live is deadass just the concept of Christianity. Jesus as a historical figure existed and I don't deny his divinity because there would be no reason for so many people to make letters about him and lie about his life. Every Abrahamic book provides atleast one piece of science that was yet to be confirmed in that era. The Bible says the earth is round while the Quran provides text about the tectonic plates. God is beyond loving and I don't doubt that yet I still fear him and would do anything to make him happy even if that means mutilating my body. I'm very sorry I won't do something like cutting off my penis though even if the thought comes back to me sparaticlly.

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Even if the verse you brought up was meant to be taken literally, doing one "wrong" thing doesn't mean you will go to hell so I'd strongly advise against cutting off any parts of your body.

Thanks, also nice pfp

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

DO NOT cut your dick, and I'm not here to tell you what to believe but , you should really take a look at what you are saying and think about it very well, it's at a point where it's extremely unhealthy for you.

Religion shouldn't govern your life, I don't care who or what your or anyone else's god is, a book and a belief doesn't own your real tangible life, you can learn from it , but don't be controlled by it. My christian religion teacher even encouraged us in the 4th grade to do that, he was the only religion teacher that actually encouraged us to explore every single religion and belief and find out what's best for us.

Because that's what belief is , I'll tell you right now what your own religion's priests won't, belief is there for you to find a sort of peace, it doesn't matter in what you believe as long as you are at peace and it doesn't interfere with anyone else's life.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

because there would be no reason for so many people to make letters about him and lie about his life.

People pretty much did the same thing with Charles Manson, Jim Jones, and Marshall Applewhite. Look it up. People are gullible.

I had a thought. If you cut off your penis, maybe you could donate it to a "trans-man" who desperately wants one? Or, does the bible frown on that kind of thing, too?

 

[needthebus]

You are psychotic due to too much dopamine in your brain, causing you to have religious delusions.

You are having a severe medical crisis and are likely to get worse and hurt yourself or others unless you get immediate medical attention.

Hyperreligiosity is a symptom of schizophrenia and/or psychosis.



You should immediately go to an ER or call 911 before this gets worse.

Even if you're thinking is somewhat normal now, people who say stuff this illogical usually get worse and sometimes end up killing others. Go to an ER and they will give you a 30 day injection of antipsychotics.


I am not joking. You should call 911 right away.

Keep in mind, next week you may be so psychotic you don't know how to call 911. Psychosis gets much worse really fast. That doesn't always happen, but it does frequently.

You are having a medical emergency.

If you don't have a diagnosis of schizophrenia, you may be having a first psychotic break. Those are extraordinarily dangerous.

I'm serious, you believe in caring about others and love your neighbor as yourself and all that bible stuff, then get to an ER immediately. You are really sick right now.

The phrase "and I have a feeling that Jesus is being hyperbolic" contains a neologism, it's another symptom of schizophrenia and it's not normal communication.

I have no idea who you are or where you are but you're having a medical crisis. This is not an emotional issue, like depression or frustration, you are having a rare chemical balance that could quickly and suddenly get worse, and is already really bad. Go to your nearest emergency hospital.
They can make this not get worse with a simple injection.

 

[Cyagangy]

People pretty much did the same thing with Charles Manson, Jim Jones, and Marshall Applewhite. Look it up. People are gullible.

I had a thought. If you cut off your penis, maybe you could donate it to a "trans-man" who desperately wants one? Or, does the bible frown on that kind of thing, too?

The old testament detests it but if someone wants it then why wouldn't I offer it up? Love your truth so long as you harm no one else. If God has a problem then you answer at the end. I fear most Christians are so full of hate and prejudice they bring down the name of the religion. I know I'm not helping since I'm extremist like that but atleast everything I am offering is for the betterment of society and to try to save a spot for my salvation.

The old testament detests it but if someone wants it then why wouldn't I offer it up? Love your truth so long as you harm no one else. If God has a problem then you answer at the end. I fear most Christians are so full of hate and prejudice they bring down the name of the religion. I know I'm not helping since I'm extremist like that but atleast everything I am offering is for the betterment of society and to try to save a spot for my salvation.

For confirmation, I heavily fw trans people. They are goated ash, especially musicians.

You are psychotic due to too much dopamine in your brain, causing you to have religious delusions.

You are having a severe medical crisis and are likely to get worse and hurt yourself or others unless you get immediate medical attention.

Hyperreligiosity is a symptom of schizophrenia and/or psychosis.



You should immediately go to an ER or call 911 before this gets worse.

Even if you're thinking is somewhat normal now, people who say stuff this illogical usually get worse and sometimes end up killing others. Go to an ER and they will give you a 30 day injection of antipsychotics.


I am not joking. You should call 911 right away.

Keep in mind, next week you may be so psychotic you don't know how to call 911. Psychosis gets much worse really fast. That doesn't always happen, but it does frequently.

You are having a medical emergency.

If you don't have a diagnosis of schizophrenia, you may be having a first psychotic break. Those are extraordinarily dangerous.

I'm serious, you believe in caring about others and love your neighbor as yourself and all that bible stuff, then get to an ER immediately. You are really sick right now.

The phrase "and I have a feeling that Jesus is being hyperbolic" contains a neologism, it's another symptom of schizophrenia and it's not normal communication.

I have no idea who you are or where you are but you're having a medical crisis. This is not an emotional issue, like depression or frustration, you are having a rare chemical balance that could quickly and suddenly get worse, and is already really bad. Go to your nearest emergency hospital.
They can make this not get worse with a simple injection.

Thanks for the advice. I wouldn't be too against getting help if hospitals didn't cost so much money. Some part of me may have doubt, it may think I'm lying about my feelings or assume I'm mad even if I know I'm not. I won't deny the possibility I'm schizo or psychotic, I have never heard about this issue being fixed with an injection but that would be amazing. It's weird but I don't think I mind the feeling, I don't mind being fearful or dreadful or stressed. Atleast I'm not bored or anything. But I'm also afraid of being in a ward, the concept that the government can keep me inside a building where I have to take drugs and talk to people sounds like hell on earth. The kicker is that they expect YOU yes YOU to pay for your own imprisonment. I don't want you to feel like you wasted your breath because you haven't, I'll take what you said into consideration but I can't risk any mental health records that look bad before I join the military. I need to join for the free Medicare and other benefits, I just need to last 2 more years against my own psyche then I can do what I need to do. Either that or follow up on my original plans.

 

[galaxid]

I'm not religious anymore, but I've read plenty of stories of people who have felt very similarly regarding their bodies, their sexuality, and god. I would argue that amputation like this is not just a bad idea, but a horrible one.

Because, hear me out-- you do this, let's say you survive. Now you're mutilated by your own hand and nothing has improved because the problem isn't your body. Its your mind. How many pieces of yourself must you cut away before you're divine enough, y'know?

God is purported to be a being of love-- he sure wouldn't ask that of you. I'd argue only the devil would command such a thing, and would say so in the guise of god to get you to believe it.

I'm wishing you the best.

Every Abrahamic book provides atleast one piece of science that was yet to be confirmed in that era. The Bible says the earth is round while the Quran provides text about the tectonic plates.

ALSO!!! Religious texts are old as hell. The messages passed down could be twisted by human influence to manipulate the constituents of said religion. One mistranslated word and bam, you get a completely different meaning, that is then codified into what we're told is the word of god. More than that, a lucky guess is not proof of scientific insight nor proves that the rest of the work is true!

 

[Cyagangy]

I'm not religious anymore, but I've read plenty of stories of people who have felt very similarly regarding their bodies, their sexuality, and god. I would argue that amputation like this is not just a bad idea, but a horrible one.

Because, hear me out-- you do this, let's say you survive. Now you're mutilated by your own hand and nothing has improved because the problem isn't your body. Its your mind. How many pieces

I'm not religious anymore, but I've read plenty of stories of people who have felt very similarly regarding their bodies, their sexuality, and god. I would argue that amputation like this is not just a bad idea, but a horrible one.

Because, hear me out-- you do this, let's say you survive. Now you're mutilated by your own hand and nothing has improved be

I'm not religious anymore, but I've read plenty of stories of people who have felt very similarly regarding their bodies, their sexuality, and god. I would argue that amputation like this is not just a bad idea, but a horrible one.

Because, hear me out-- you do this, let's say you survive. Now you're mutilated by your own hand and nothing has improved because the problem isn't your body. Its your mind. How many pieces of yourself must you cut away before you're divine enough, y'know?

God is purported to be a being of love-- he sure wouldn't ask that of you. I'd argue only the devil would command such a thing, and would say so in the guise of god to get you to believe it.

I'm wishing you the best.

ALSO!!! Religious texts are old as hell. The messages passed down could be twisted by human influence to manipulate the constituents of said religion. One mistranslated word and bam, you get a completely different meaning, that is then codified into what we're told is the word of god. More than that, a lucky guess is not proof of scientific insight nor proves that the rest of the work is true!

cause the problem isn't your body. Its your mind. How many pieces of yourself must you cut away before you're divine enough, y'know?

God is purported to be a being of love-- he sure wouldn't ask that of you. I'd argue only the devil would command such a thing, and would say so in the guise of god to get you to believe it.

I'm wishing you the best.

ALSO!!! Religious texts are old as hell. The messages passed down could be twisted by human influence to manipulate the constituents of said religion. One mistranslated word and bam, you get a completely different meaning, that is then codified into what we're told is the word of god. More than that, a lucky guess is not proof of scientific insight nor proves that the rest of the work is true!

of yourself must you cut away before you're divine enough, y'know?

God is purported to be a being of love-- he sure wouldn't ask that of you. I'd argue only the devil would command such a thing, and would say so in the guise of god to get you to believe it.

I'm wishing you the best.

ALSO!!! Religious texts are old as hell. The messages passed down could be twisted by human influence to manipulate the constituents of said religion. One mistranslated word and bam, you get a completely different meaning, that is then codified into what we're told is the word of god. More than that, a lucky guess is not proof of scientific insight nor proves that the rest of the work is true.

Thanks for the advice

 

[locked*n*loaded]

The old testament detests it but if someone wants it then why wouldn't I offer it up?

I was being facetious since I don't believe that to be possible. Also, from my comments, it's probably pretty apparent where I stand when it comes to religion.

 

[Cyagangy]

I was being facetious since I don't believe that to be possible. Also, from my comments, it's probably pretty apparent where I stand when it comes to religion.

I assumed as much for both

 

[needthebus]

The old testament detests it but if someone wants it then why wouldn't I offer it up? Love your truth so long as you harm no one else. If God has a problem then you answer at the end. I fear most Christians are so full of hate and prejudice they bring down the name of the religion. I know I'm not helping since I'm extremist like that but atleast everything I am offering is for the betterment of society and to try to save a spot for my salvation.

For confirmation, I heavily fw trans people. They are goated ash, especially musicians.

Thanks for the advice. I wouldn't be too against getting help if hospitals didn't cost so much money. Some part of me may have doubt, it may think I'm lying about my feelings or assume I'm mad even if I know I'm not. I won't deny the possibility I'm schizo or psychotic, I have never heard about this issue being fixed with an injection but that would be amazing. It's weird but I don't think I mind the feeling, I don't mind being fearful or dreadful or stressed. Atleast I'm not bored or anything. But I'm also afraid of being in a ward, the concept that the government can keep me inside a building where I have to take drugs and talk to people sounds like hell on earth. The kicker is that they expect YOU yes YOU to pay for your own imprisonment. I don't want you to feel like you wasted your breath because you haven't, I'll take what you said into consideration but I can't risk any mental health records that look bad before I join the military. I need to join for the free Medicare and other benefits, I just need to last 2 more years against my own psyche then I can do what I need to do. Either that or follow up on my original plans.

I sort of understand your reply.

Sometimes not being tortured and just surviving matter more.

When you get locked up, it is torture, and in some countries they do bill you.

I get wanting to try to be in the military for a while for economic reasons.


You could also just go see a regular psychiatrist, not tell them you are suicidal, and try to get dopamine blockers. Your hyper-religiosity is basically text book mental illness and when people who have schizophrenia take dopamine blockers their rates of suicide go way down.

But if you see a psychiatrist, they could involuntarily hospitalize you right away. It's a risk, and if you're not willing to take it, I get it. The mental health industry's my way or the highway ethical rules cause this problem, and there is no current lawful way in most societies for a mentally ill person to buy dopamine blockers without seeing a doctor who can imprison them in some torturous facility and bill them for their misery.

If you go into the military (keep in mind I have absolutely no idea how you'd pass a psych test unless you lie extensively), you're likely to have access to a lot of lethal shit around the same time you are likely to become very psychotic, since you seem very mentally ill and mildly psychotic now. It seems like a reciepe for disaster, but honestly it's the fault of the mental health industry and medical establishment for creating exploitative and cruel ethical rules that put burdens and costs on the vulnerable mentally ill people instead of society.

Locked facilities are mostly atrocious and hellish and everyone knows it, but the medical industry doesn't care to improve them because it wouldn't increase profits for doctors, who really are just interested in financial exploitation. The fact that in some countries mentally ill barely functioning people can be billed for this torture is horrendous.

So yeah, I'm not going to try to persuade you to get help in light of your response. If the military is your last hope of not being homeless because society is so cruel, if you don't want to see doctors because of fears of being tortured in a locked facility and becoming a second-class citizen because medical records can result in that, I totally get it.

You may end up becoming extraordinarily and violently psychotic later while in the military with disastrous results for others in society, but the risk of that happening (30%?) means it may be worth it to you personally since if you seek help there's probably a 75 percent chance you'll end up tortured in a locked facility at some point, and by tortured I do not mean intentional infliction of physical pain but rather just the experience, the mind-fucking aspect to it, the extreme degradation boredom and stimulus deprivation. It may be much much better for society if you get help, but possibly worse for you if you get help due to exploitation and cruelty of the mental health industry.

Really, society doesn't care to prevent the exploitation and cruelty, so yeah, if you're like not willing to endure that to reduce a 30 percent chance of things going disastrously wrong later then I understand and it's really the fault of the mental health industry not allowing a way for people to get dopamine blockers with complete anonymity or privacy without fear of being held in a cruel and degrading fashion that is financially ruinous.

There is no "I am willing to get dopamine blockers to reduce my mental illness symptoms, but only if there's a guarantee that I won't be kidnapped and held in a locked facility and billed for it later" option in society. Society will continue to suffer the results of people opting out of mental health care because of corrupt medical rules that prioritize looking good and seeming socially acceptable and financially exploiting others. I don't blame you if you don't get help, society has created this problem by allowing doctors to act in exploitative ways.