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sleepy dog

sleepy dog

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Sep 13, 2019
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I walked into a mental health clinic 16 years ago looking for help with many shocking and horrible memories coming to me one after another. I am still looking for help. There seems to be a myth of "THERAPY" created mostly by Hollywood. Think about it. Have you ever been told by somebody in your real life that they "got therapy" and really got helped a lot and don't have the same problem anymore? I haven't. I am 53 and have never heard anybody say that or anything similar. The mental health system just wants to put drugs in your body. I have come to believe there is no therapy to be had, it will never happen.
 
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stellabelle

stellabelle

ethereal
Dec 14, 2018
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I go to sessions once a week and might up it to two soon. It helps, it does. It doesn't go away by any means but i do get something out of it.

It helps when you can find the right place and person to work with you.
 
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fat_ass_69_420

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Sep 6, 2019
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Therapy is meant as more of a tool to manage the conditions that you have.. it doesn't make the problem go away, it's to help you cope and hopefully improve your quality of life.
 
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jesse

jesse

perpetually overwhelmed
Sep 18, 2019
83
Through therapy I've learned lots of skills that help me with my massive anxiety every day. I have my doubts sometimes, but there is solid evidence that therapy has been useful to me. I think experiences vary a lot, because there are a lot of bad therapists in the world. It also is a slow, slow process, which can be so frustrating.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
696
If my current therapist and I could do a joint post, we both could say my life sucks ass. On the outside. Even on the inside, but the only thing is, for once I can see with clarity that it really isn't my fault. I've spent years in 12 step meetings where I learned that I have to take responsibility for every negative thing in my life, and give God the credit for everything good. WTF kind of help is that for a person with 3 different co-occurring disorders of bipolar, BPD, and PTSD? I guess I asked for those? Then a therapist abused me mentally and emotionally for 16 years, but I have no recourse because I have a drug history? Fuck You!!

So the only that's kept me from ctb , this weekend in particular, is my current therapist. I've been seeing him for 6 years and he knows everything about me, including everything that's gone on here and our persecution by Jackie and Chip Bieber. Obviously I would never ask him to speak up about it, He's too well respected in his field to touch our situation with a ten foot pole. But my main message is this about therapy: contrary to what you hear on this site, if you can't be Honest with your therapist, GET A NEW ONE. If your therapist is blaming you for your problems, GET A NEW ONE. Even a therapist who blames your parents is better, especially because most people here are young.

Theres definitely more than a grain of truth to it, and you could spend years blaming them and it's still better than blaming yourself. But eventually you need to move on from blaming anyone, and that's really scary. Getting in touch will my all my different diagnoses made me realize my mental illnesses are profound and lifelong. Not even the worst parent would wish that consciously for their child. Now it's a question of picking up the pieces and moving forward.

I also would like to discredit a popular narrative that circulates SS regarding therapists, especially if you live in the US, and especially if you live in PA. I have been called out about being wrong about a lot of things in the US, and it took me awhile to realize PA is a special kind of hell for people with mental health issues. I would say yes, there is a chance you can be involuntarily commited for suicidal thoughts. But if you don't have a clear cut plan in place, it's very difficult to be committed. I've had EMTs argue with me that I'm not suicidal enough when I've tried to commit myself. And I've had ER staff argue with me while trying to commit a family member.

I think a therapist would have to be a complete psychopath if they can't handle a discussion about suicidal ideation and the EXPLORATION of methods. Yes, that's right, I said it. People don't get that just knowing you can check out whenever gives you the freedom to consciously say yes to life. I'm a huge advocate of mental health intervention long before Suicide Prevention even enters the picture. People are gonna do what they're gonna do, and all Prevention does is make you change plans. And the majority of suicides in the media are hanging. What are you gonna do? Outlaw rope? Towel racks? Give me a break.

And my life is wrecked right now, so the only thing I really have is a therapist willing to see me on credit right now and enough gas to make it out there tomorrow. This is beyond don't drink a day at a time bullshit. This is don't kill yourselves a minute at a time.
 
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SlackJim

SlackJim

Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost
Sep 30, 2019
226
Have you looked at EMDR therapy? looking to hear if anyone has tried this, it's supposed to be particularly effective for trauma which is difficult to talk about or even remember.
 
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Rachel74

Enlightened
Sep 7, 2019
1,716
Theory didn't help me only me being a stubborn selfish twat helped me.
 
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sleepy dog

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Sep 13, 2019
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Have you looked at EMDR therapy? looking to hear if anyone has tried this, it's supposed to be particularly effective for trauma which is difficult to talk about or even remember.

I want to try this. But I asked about doing cognitive behavioral therapy and she just said "Some people don't like that." I asked again, she just repeated herself. These people do what they want, not what they should.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
696
Have you looked at EMDR therapy? looking to hear if anyone has tried this, it's supposed to be particularly effective for trauma which is difficult to talk about or even remember.
They wanted me to try this at my recent rehab experience. I actually flipped out on the therapist, because she said for every one traumatic experience you need 3 EMDR sessions. I was pissed because I already can barely pay for therapy, let alone an adjunctive treatment. I've had too many traumas to even count. Plus most of my childhood was traumatic, and a lot of my trauma centers around loss, which some memories I totally forgot until I was put in a trauma group. It turned out to not be a good experience because too many traumas came flooding to the surface.
 
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SlackJim

Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost
Sep 30, 2019
226
They wanted me to try this at my recent rehab experience. I actually flipped out on the therapist, because she said for every one traumatic experience you need 3 EMDR sessions. I was pissed because I already can barely pay for therapy, let alone an adjunctive treatment. I've had too many traumas to even count. Plus most of my childhood was traumatic, and a lot of my trauma centers around loss, which some memories I totally forgot until I was put in a trauma group. It turned out to not be a good experience because too many traumas came flooding to the surface.
Yeah it sucks that these things cost a lot of money, did you ever try an EMDR session? I have heard that it the reason it can be successful is that people can look back at trauma without the anxiety/panic/fear/sadness that is usually associated with it, this is why I'm interested. This is what sets it apart from talking therapies. I read a book called "the body keeps the score" that is written by a psychotherapist who has specialised in trauma for his whole career and he seems to think it is very effective. That book gave me some clarity and helped me see trauma in a slightly different way, the correlations with trauma and physical illness is astounding.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
696
Yeah it sucks that these things cost a lot of money, did you ever try an EMDR session? I have heard that it the reason it can be successful is that people can look back at trauma without the anxiety/panic/fear/sadness that is usually associated with it, this is why I'm interested. This is what sets it apart from talking therapies. I read a book called "the body keeps the score" that is written by a psychotherapist who has specialised in trauma for his whole career and he seems to think it is very effective. That book gave me some clarity and helped me see trauma in a slightly different way, the correlations with trauma and physical illness is astounding.
No, I didn't get to try it. I want To get in a program specifically to do DBT, but I can't right now. My life sucks more than it ever has right now. I'm completely broke and scrounging for money. I can't go back to my career because it was retraumatizing to me. Every time I'm in this situation I always end up saying, well I need to make money, and I end up back on drugs no matter how good my intentions are. I'm refusing to do that this time and it's going to be rough, but I'm 51. I don't want to be dead at 53 unless I say so, if you know what I mean. I'm not dying doing something that I hate. Idk, work is what got me here. It would be nice to do a goodbye thread because my life is better.

This is also why I don't subscribe to the suicide prevention propaganda. The push in Pennsylvania to ban this site, and the net under the Golden Gate Bridge infuriates me. Right about now it would be nice if there some way other than SSD to get funds for awhile until I'm back on my feet. All the funding and energy going into those things would be better spent helping people with their lives way before they want to jump or whatever.
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

Illuminated
Aug 19, 2019
3,299
Nah, if it helps, it'd probably help better to just talk to a guy in the pub.

Today I had to talk to shrink to get sedatives to go with SN. Jesus fucking lord, cannot imagine seriously expecting help from the guy. Still feel a little bit uncomfortable because I sat there talking to someone who listened to me without any discernible human reaction. Again, there can be nice shrinks, but it comes down to the same thing as the guy in the pub.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
696
Nah, if it helps, it'd probably help better to just talk to a guy in the pub.

Today I had to talk to shrink to get sedatives to go with SN. Jesus fucking lord, cannot imagine seriously expecting help from the guy. Still feel a little bit uncomfortable because I sat there talking to someone who listened to me without any discernible human reaction. Again, there can be nice shrinks, but it comes down to the same thing as the guy in the pub.
Psychiatrists are annoying AF. I'm not sure the guy in the pub is the same as a therapist though. Not for me, anyway. But it's my BPD too. I take everything the wrong way and anything can trigger me, it's crazy, So I need a therapist who can adjust their approach and help me filter my negative self talk. A guy at the pub is just going to be like, I didnt mean anything by it, and get defensive. It's horrible, it makes relating to people very difficult. But yeah, psychiatrists are the worst.
 
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Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
1,785
Nah, if it helps, it'd probably help better to just talk to a guy in the pub.

Today I had to talk to shrink to get sedatives to go with SN. Jesus fucking lord, cannot imagine seriously expecting help from the guy. Still feel a little bit uncomfortable because I sat there talking to someone who listened to me without any discernible human reaction. Again, there can be nice shrinks, but it comes down to the same thing as the guy in the pub.

Come on yew cen talk to *burps* me. I won't tell a.... I'm your obly frien.... Your the obly frien I hab. *Burps loudly*

One week last day, I wreeked my motorcar, and those filty digusting pigs.... Errrr, fine offithers ob da law, accused *farts* me of been drink. You beleeb dat shit?

So, buy me anudder dwink, and thalk to me. Your da onbly freend I has.


6520621 young drunk man drinking whiskey in the bar
 
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woxihuanni

Illuminated
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3,299
Come on yew cen talk to *burps* me. I won't tell a.... I'm your obly frien.... Your the obly frien I hab. *Burps loudly*

One week last day, I wreeked my motorcar, and those filty digusting pigs.... Errrr, fine offithers ob da law, accused *farts* me of been drink. You beleeb dat shit?

So, buy me anudder dwink, and thalk to me. Your da onbly freend I has.


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Much better than the shrink, I tell ya!
 
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woxihuanni

Illuminated
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3,299
Yew wub me! You weally wub me! Now where's my *farts* dwink you pwomised me?

Mods, mods, I keep telling you we need a cheers emoji!

Course I wub you, at least you don't have a goatee. (You don't, right? right?)
 
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Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
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Mods, mods, I keep telling you we need a cheers emoji!

Course I wub you, at least you don't have a goatee. (You don't, right? right?)

Ummmmm..... I refoose to anser on da gwouns you might not buy me anudder dwink.
 
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Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
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Look here, mate, you tell me sharpish or no drinks!

Ok ok.... I have a goatee, but I been growing my beard out a little bit. So my goatee is longer than the rest of the hair on my face...

Now where's my drink?
 
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woxihuanni

Illuminated
Aug 19, 2019
3,299
Ok ok.... I have a goatee, but I been growing my beard out a little bit. So my goatee is longer than the rest of the hair on my face...

Now where's my drink?

Oh well, I love you anyway, goatee or not. :heart:

What's your poison, then? It's on me.
 
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The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
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Oh well, I love you anyway, goatee or not. :heart:

What's your poison, then? It's on me.
Oh the drinks are on you? In that case, I'll take a case of Jack Daniels, a case of Budweiser, and a bottled water.
 
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woxihuanni

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Whew, at least you didn't ask for a crate of N. :tongue:
 
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The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
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Aha, now my sparkly wit succumbs to wine. What's it for, then? Dumping over the head?
Well, basically, it's just in case I get thirsty. Lol