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ctoan

ctoan

Arcanist
Sep 30, 2018
437
or is suicide what seperates humans from animals?

the ultimative form of selfawareness?

ctb, ergo sum?
 
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Rollo

Rollo

No pasaran
Aug 13, 2018
461
Well this unique arrogance in thinking that humans posses some ultimate form of self-awareness is definitely what separates humans from animals :sunglasses: (damn emoticons are big here).

As far as suicide goes. There are horsehair worms that as larva infest crickets, then grow inside their bodies and then crickets go and drown themselves after which worms escape the body.
 
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Candour

Candour

Student
Sep 16, 2018
113
Yeah they do, there was a whale in captivity they appeared to be displaying that behavior.
 
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Sayo

Sayo

Not 2B
Aug 22, 2018
520
Yes, they do. Even unintelligent animals will exhibit suicidal behaviour if their suffering is too great. Usually a response to pain or grief. Typically, their behaviour will be more passively suicidal than not, more of a sign of losing will to live, but there have been reported cases of drowning and self-suffocation.

The problem with discussing animal suicide is that it's difficult to prove an animal is aware of what it is going to do and consciously choosing to die, which often leads to projection in humans. That dolphins choose to stop breathing in inhumane captivity is a compelling argument to me though.
 
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-OneLastWhiskey

-OneLastWhiskey

Baby pull me closer in the backseat of your rover.
Oct 5, 2018
132
I do know they get neurotic. Parrots pluck their own feathers when they are in too much pain/neglect.
Kind of a form of cutting or self-mutilation.

I guess dolphins, whales, parrots, maybe primates like gorilla's. These are so much more intelligent than we give them credit for.
 
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lost illusions

lost illusions

bye
Sep 12, 2018
548
I think so, they see my head lights and thump. Dam skunks
 
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lost illusions

lost illusions

bye
Sep 12, 2018
548
Some bitch, that makes 6 in a half an hour
 
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IG959

Arcanist
Aug 14, 2018
430
I've never thought about this, definitely an interesting topic. Something I'll have to look into and learn more about
 
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AveryConure

AveryConure

Some idiot
May 11, 2018
437
I honestly thought the answer was no until someone linked about the dolphin committing suicide.

I mean, yeah. Can't really blame it for going through with that.
 
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Roph

Specialist
Sep 24, 2018
355
I've read stories of some animal suicides.
 
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Virgo

Arcanist
Oct 3, 2018
497
Yes some animals commit suicide. This forum is a testament to the fact that some animals commit suicide.
 
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millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,034
Does a dog dying after stopping to eat for weeks after their owner disappears count as suicide? If so, there you have it.
emoticons
Showing your age there.
 
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millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,034
What's my age then?
It was mostly a joke. Haven't seen people call the little faces "emoticons" in such a long time. It is such an early 00s thing.
 
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lv-gras

fledermausßßßßßßßß
Jul 27, 2018
617
It was mostly a joke. Haven't seen people call the little faces "emoticons" in such a long time. It is such an early 00s thing.
yeah haven't seen them called that in ages, it's cool.
 
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Rollo

Rollo

No pasaran
Aug 13, 2018
461
It was mostly a joke. Haven't seen people call the little faces "emoticons" in such a long time. It is such an early 00s thing.

Got you. I'm 36, have a few gray hairs in my stubble so I guess you were right about me being an old fart. How do you call emoticons these days? Just so I don't get immediately busted trying to pass for 15yo.
 
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millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,034
Got you. I'm 36, have a few gray hairs in my stubble so I guess you were right about me being an old fart. How do you call emoticons these days? Just so I don't get immediately busted trying to pass for 15yo.
They call it "emojis".
 
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Rollo

Rollo

No pasaran
Aug 13, 2018
461
They call it "emojis".

Just googled it and the idea is that emoticons are when you use punctuation marks, numbers and letters while emojis are images like the one I used. So I'm also guilty of a misnomer then.
 
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millefeui

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2018
1,034
Just googled it and the idea is that emoticons are when you use punctuation marks, numbers and letters while emojis are images like the one I used. So I'm also guilty of a misnomer then.
Hm... Back in the 00s, at least in the social circles I was part of, we called everything emoticons. I guess the names of things change with time.
 
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Miro

Member
Oct 17, 2018
48
From time to time, I see stories about animal suicides.
 
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Manaaja

Manaaja

euROPE
Sep 10, 2018
1,382
I've heard and read that Skye Terriers often commit suicide after their owner has died. There was a famous Skye Terrier who would remain at its true owner's (the family's grandfather's) tomb until it died of dehydration/starvation despite its family having several other (living) humans who tried to give it food and water. It was so loyal to the grandfather that it didn't care about the remaining family members, nor life.
 
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