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Ariii

Ariii

Student
Oct 29, 2023
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Going to subreddits like r/TwoX and r/Askwomen for example, so much of it is just about their experiences with sexual harassment, relationships, and things in that vein. So much of Tiktok about being a woman is sexual harassment, guys, etc etc. I am literally unable to relate to any of those at all.

I know Im ugly, that's what all of my experiences in life point to. I'm just so tired of these things being framed as EVERY woman's experience. By doing so, it is completely steamrolling the experiences of ugly woman. It doesn't make me feel like a girl. At times, I feel like a guy instead, because of how I'm treated, aka Im a HKV, I've never been complimented by someone of the opposite gender (compliments by girls have just been out of curtsey), I never even been spoken to by a non-familial man outside of obligation or customer service (besides a gay acquaintance who was friends with everyone he met), and most don't even look at me.

And do not tell me that "beauty is the eye of the beholder." That does not change the fact that conventionally ugly girls are treated completely different than conventionally attractive girls.
 
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Mitsuki_the_unloved

Lunar Witch
Feb 11, 2025
1
I'm 25 and im an immensely ugly woman and I've experienced awful numerous traumatic experiences… I have no family or friends and was made homeless at 15. My parents are Japanese and the worst kind stereotypical businessman drunk dad and depressed mom who accepted getting cheated on repeatedly as the norm. I'm autistic and experience no sexual attraction just romantic lesbian attraction wanting to be a wife hold hands etc. I feel like a fucking freak entirely alone and I've spent all night remembering every trauma every ex girlfriend every horrible time my parents called me ugly and how im so ashamed of my voice face and disabilities i self harm abuse drugs and I've lost half my weight in a month by just pure neglect… I have a fiancee and we live together but well you can see that by me being here it's clear how much of a one sided relationship it is. I pick her flowers, make her food, art, poems daily I sneak into her backpack. I feel entirely alone and like my existence is just to be used by literally everyone and regarded as little more than a sexual object… I have no words of comfort to offer other than well you're not alone… well until helium arrives…

P.S to give you the idea of how hopeless i feel ive spent all night pounding marijuana (medicinal on prescription from Curaleaf) and writing horrible things on my body to try refrain from ending my life via more agregious methods… also tried university numerous times and holyfuck nobody wants to see a woman succeed especially a disabled one and when I got sexual assaulted in my dorm I GOT EXPELLED FOR MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS the rapist is still studying to this day…

P.S part 2 electric boogaloo
I'm almost 1 million % assured you are beautiful and one day like whiplash the wind of your esteem will shift your way and hope joy and prosperity will be what you feel deep inside.

I wanted to leave something encouraging…
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
4,573
First of all, r/twox is probably one of the worst subreddits out there and should be avoided like the plague. Even I can't stand that subreddit and I'm a woman.

Secondly, there are plenty of women out there who have never been sexually harassed before. I feel like a lot of women online like to make these large sweeping generalizations about sexual harassment being something that all women experience, but that is far from the truth. Some women go their whole lives never experiencing this kind of shit. Sexual harassment is more common in some places than others. Along with that, some men also experience sexual harassment. It's not some experience that is an innate part of womanhood. Also, sexual harassment is based more on power rather than on looks. I've met attractive women who have talked about never having been sexually harassed before and I've met women who don't meet conventional beauty standards who have talked about having experienced it before. It's much more complex than just attractiveness alone.

I personally have only been sexually harassed by a guy once. Otherwise, my general interactions with men have mostly been either neutral or positive and I would say that most of the men and boys that I've interacted with irl respect my space slightly more compared to most of the women and girls I've interacted with throughout the entirety of my life.
 
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Jealous Blackheart

Jealous Blackheart

A Well Read Demon
Aug 25, 2023
221
I'm not a woman but your title reminded me very distinctly about a friend I had.

She thought she was boy specifically because she did not relate at all to what girlhood seemed overwhelming to be. It wasn't until she met her boyfriend that she had started identifying as a girl again. At the time she told me this I was more insensitive than I wish I'd been though my intent was to make her feel better. Despite having a pretty face she described herself as mid and me as conventionally attractive which made a lot of my responses come off as insincere. The sad part is that I did understand her, more than she knew, but I am a notoriously terrible communicator.

To answer your question: yes, there are women like you out there. I know because I've met them.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I rejected girly things from a very young age. I was always more of a tom boy. That certainly made me feel less able to fit in with more typical feminine conversations. I missed a lot of the more typical phases really- teenage girls trying to attract boys, women talking about their boyfriends, husbands, motherhood. It used to bother me more when I was around people- obviously. It's much easier to be yourself on your own.

That's so disturbing though- when you think about it. That a large proportion of women have experienced sexual harassment/ assault of some kind. I'm not attractive at all and I've even experienced a mild experience once on a tube train. I don't think it's always to do with looks to be honest. Some guys out there just seem to enjoy power. I expect the thrill is simply dominance and, getting away with it.

While it's understandable to feel upset about our looks, truly thinking about it- this isn't likely something you want to have in common with other women. It's really not positive to be able to say you've crossed paths with a pervert! It's also massively disturbing to think how many there must be out there- if so many women can recount at least one bad experience.
 
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Cauliflour

Cauliflour

The one who doodles.
Mar 24, 2025
60
I know I don't act like how other girls act and I've just learned to not give a shit because if I tried being like "the traditional female experience" such as talking about boyfriends, shopping for clothes, worrying about how fat my boobs are etc then I'll probably be hanging from the ceiling right now. I know it sounds corny but "being yourself" does make you feel better about yourself and when you have fucked up mental health, you're gonna need it. I know people think I'm weird and they most definitely talk behind my back, but it's either authenticity or feeling crappy about myself and feeling stressed about fitting into "the traditional female experience" while still not doing it fully right so people still think I'm weird.

Personally I've never experienced sexual harassment (thank god) and I think I'm attractive in terms of looks (girls sometimes compliment me, especially my hair) but I'm not conventionally attractive like I don't look like an Instagram influencer. Gender is a complex brain thing and there's no checklist that makes you eligible. I think the best way to describe it is based on vibes that you get from existing on Earth for a certain amount of time. Don't worry about it and just try to be as authentic as you can.

Also what do you mean by "conventionally ugly"? Do you mean things like crooked teeth and glasses and acne? Or is it more of a style thing like a certain aesthetic which isn't mainstream? Beauty changes all the damn time and you shouldn't bother chasing it. Who knows? Maybe you're not ugly. Maybe you're just so trendy that you're starting trends way before the world is ready for them.

You probably think my words are a bit shallow, I should stop now.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,793
I'm 25 and im an immensely ugly woman and I've experienced awful numerous traumatic experiences… I have no family or friends and was made homeless at 15. My parents are Japanese and the worst kind stereotypical businessman drunk dad and depressed mom who accepted getting cheated on repeatedly as the norm. I'm autistic and experience no sexual attraction just romantic lesbian attraction wanting to be a wife hold hands etc. I feel like a fucking freak entirely alone and I've spent all night remembering every trauma every ex girlfriend every horrible time my parents called me ugly and how im so ashamed of my voice face and disabilities i self harm abuse drugs and I've lost half my weight in a month by just pure neglect… I have a fiancee and we live together but well you can see that by me being here it's clear how much of a one sided relationship it is. I pick her flowers, make her food, art, poems daily I sneak into her backpack. I feel entirely alone and like my existence is just to be used by literally everyone and regarded as little more than a sexual object… I have no words of comfort to offer other than well you're not alone… well until helium arrives…

P.S to give you the idea of how hopeless i feel ive spent all night pounding marijuana (medicinal on prescription from Curaleaf) and writing horrible things on my body to try refrain from ending my life via more agregious methods… also tried university numerous times and holyfuck nobody wants to see a woman succeed especially a disabled one and when I got sexual assaulted in my dorm I GOT EXPELLED FOR MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS the rapist is still studying to this day…

P.S part 2 electric boogaloo
I'm almost 1 million % assured you are beautiful and one day like whiplash the wind of your esteem will shift your way and hope joy and prosperity will be what you feel deep inside.

I wanted to leave something encouraging…

Your experience is so harrowing, I'm so sorry your parents the administrators at your university treated you like this. Unfortunately it is a common tactic used by those in power, to simply remove the victim from the equation by expelling them, so that they don't have to provide adequate support or deal with the fallout of addressing the sexual abuse that's happened. It feels like the victim is often treated as the problem, when they experience the consequences of the traumatic event, it is easy to use "mental health" as the scapegoat to get you out of their hair. It's a truly disgusting practice and you should have been supported, not cast aside.

I had a similar experience growing up where I had to leave school for multiple years, living at home as a hikkikomori, while the person who molested me got to live a normal life and continue at school. My heart goes out to you, because no one should ever have to experience this. You've been through so much and I hate that they took away the opportunity from you to receive education, which is so important to young women and can free many from neglectful cycles of abuse by providing a means to support one's future. I hope one day you can go back and finish your degree, if you are in a place to do so.

I agree with Jester that r/TwoX sucks, and is not anywhere near representative of what most women think or experience. Ignore the things you read on super huge Reddits because a lot of posts there are ragebait written by bots, and posts written by humans are frequently deleted or censored. There are websites you can go on to see how many posts have been scraped by automod or Reddit admins on particular subreddits, and on front page subs like TwoX or askwomen, the number of posts that never see the light of day is staggering.

Not being a conventionally attractive woman is hard, it is really crushing for one's self esteem not to receive positive regard from others. Though, jester is right that sexual harassment or abuse can happen to anyone, and women who don't "fit the mold" so to speak can be particularly at risk for it, as some predatory people can pick up on things like a woman having low self-esteem and take advantage of her desperation for companionship to gain her trust, then do awful things to her. This also happens to men as well who are more vulnerable. It often seems to boil down to power dynamics between the victim and the abuser.

I am also not attractive, and pretty much the only men who have been interested in me have always been way older than me, except one, who also turned out to not actually like or care about me. I prefer other women, but have never gotten any interest from other girls. Like you, I also do not really feel like a woman anymore, especially because I don't desire the typical life script of marriage and kids, I've constantly been made to feel like less of a woman because I'm not popping out babies or able to look after a man. I don't desire sex either, and this makes me out to be some sort of disgusting creature to a lot of people, for whatever reason.

There are so many unreasonable expectations thrust upon women, it's hard to be a woman who doesn't fit into what is expected of us. It is really difficult when you can't relate to what is supposed to be this shared experience. There are women who have experienced this deep sense of rejection and isolation from the world, it is just harder to hear the voices of women like us because abused, bullied, or neglected girls often get slapped with derogatory labels like BPD and not taken seriously anymore.
 
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Cauliflour

Cauliflour

The one who doodles.
Mar 24, 2025
60
Like you, I also do not really feel like a woman anymore, especially because I don't desire the typical life script of marriage and kids, I've constantly been made to feel like less of a woman because I'm not popping out babies or able to look after a man. I don't desire sex either, and this makes me out to be some sort of disgusting creature to a lot of people, for whatever reason.
There isn't a checklist for "being a woman", it's more so in vibes. I'm similar 'cause I don't want to get married to a man and pump out babies. Those people that call you a "disgusting creature" are either incels or pretentious married women and you shouldn't waste your energy on them. Who cares if you don't want to fuck? It's not gonna make your tits fall off so try to be the best version that you can be and make all those people envy you because you're happy despite not being like them.
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
1,632
I do not have a whole lot to say on the subject other than to remember that social media is a giant echo-chamber. If you go to a reddit community, it is going to attract people who all have a shared experience creating a bias of who posts there. Social media is not representative of the wider human experience at all.
 
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FoxSauce

FoxSauce

Emotional unstable like and IKEA table
Aug 23, 2024
194
Yes, when ever i think about this fact
I dont get crazy over material things or any thing else that other majority of other girls enjoy. (Not like that other girls thing)


Is difficult enough that is very difficult to make freinds as it is and people telling you to be yourself is holds some truth but sometimes it can be absolute bull.

True that I sometimes still be myself despite that ofc.

Ofc theres the other thing relationships love mean. Mostly in middle school I would mostly be used as a joke. Which ofc hurt myself esteem. And the absolute loneliness of not having a relashionship for fear of intimacy but oh well everything has to come at its time right?

And being told I was way to chubby which let me in a deep eating (ok idk what that was not diagnosed or anything this was before I went to see a mental health professional for other reasons)

TW: Prob ED (I don't want to hurt or trigger anyone)

Anyways led to a year of intense exercising and all I could think off is how to be desirable by others and how to avoid foods to the point that went to 99 pounds and avoiding outside activity cuz I knew they could be food involved that I couldn't control. Exercising was seen as a punishment if I ate something not good.


This went like this over a year. No matter how much I tried it wasnt skinny enough I wasn't pretty enough. Till one day I opened my eyes and saw what I've dont to myself. Couldn't hold back and broke down crying.

But I managed to slowly but surely regain my weight back.


Wow I'm rambling to much.

Anyways I think if people wanna be with me so be it if not well idk good luck?

Apologies for the long @ss rant and if doesn't make sense sorryvabout that too.
 

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