Discussion Do you think gravity was invented? Does your family think you are smart?

[Spreadingmywings]

For example, my mom and dad think I'm some kind of engineer just because I can connect the cable from their TV to some weird outlet, so there's the rest of my family they seem to see potential in me but then they treat me like weird or used to. I think they're just trying to be nice to tell their egos how humble they are.

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[Agon321]

Well, if Newton hadn't invented gravity, we wouldn't have gravity now.
We owe him a lot.

But I agree that without gravity some things would be easier, but every new technology has its pros and cons.

 

[Spreadingmywings]

Well, if Newton hadn't invented gravity, we wouldn't have gravity now.
We owe him a lot.

But I agree that without gravity some things would be easier, but every new technology has its pros and cons.

please say sike

 

[Ol Messier 87]

Newton invented gravity applied to apples only, and then Einstein went a little further.
Also Galileo and Bruno tried a few things with boats but nobody cared, didn't work probably.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I mean, if you believe in God, then I guess it was invented. Otherwise it was always there and discovered by Sir Isaac Newton.

Seriously though- brainy people out there... Would we still have tides in the ocean if the moon didn't exist? Isn't it the moon's force of gravity on the earth that creates tides? I only studied science up to GCSE level...

Would any life exist without the force of gravity? Would anything be able to 'stick' to a planet long enough to find food, procreate and evolve?

But no, I don't think my parents think I'm smart. I'm creative and they both acknowledge that. I'm not massively smart anyway but I'd say I'm better at some things than they think I am. Not others though- they're right that I'm dreadful at maths and physics!

 

[LapseInTime]

What if it was never invented?

 

[Agon321]

What if it was never invented?

We would have no gravity now.
Gravity is a breakthrough technology.

 

[Ol Messier 87]

I mean, if you believe in God, then I guess it was invented. Otherwise it was always there and discovered by Sir Isaac Newton.

Seriously though- brainy people out there... Would we still have tides in the ocean if the moon didn't exist? Isn't it the moon's force of gravity on the earth that creates tides? I only studied science up to GCSE level...

Would any life exist without the force of gravity? Would anything be able to 'stick' to a planet long enough to find food, procreate and evolve?

Actually gravity isn't exactly a force, rather, it is a geometric property of the Universe that is directly related to the mass of matter and its amount of energy. Therefore, I don't think any baryonic matter could exist without gravity since matter itself is linked to it by it's mass and energy (at least that's what I deduce). But in any case, no life (as we know it) without gravity, because no gravity means no planet. (Sorry for my broken English, btw I can't even tell if your questions were serious)

 

[Forever Sleep]

Actually gravity isn't exactly a force, rather, it is a geometric property of the Universe that is directly related to the mass of matter and its amount of energy. Therefore, I don't think any baryonic matter could exist without gravity since matter itself is the origin of gravity (at least that's what I deduce). But in any case, no life (as we know it) without gravity, because no gravity means no planet. (Sorry for my broken English, btw I can't even tell if your questions were serious)

That's interesting. So, would you say magnetism was a property of certain materials rather than a force? But then, 'force' is surely just a way of saying this object seems to cause this reaction- except we can't always see it. We just see the reaction.

But yes- I think I understand. All objects have gravity as an instrinsic property but if they didn't, I guess life as we know it couldn't have evolved.

But no, my questions were serious. The last time I learnt about all this stuff was 30 years ago. I didn't pursue science at all.

 

[Ol Messier 87]

That's interesting. So, would you say magnetism was a property of certain materials rather than a force? But then, 'force' is surely just a way of saying this object seems to cause this reaction- except we can't always see it. We just see the reaction.

But yes- I think I understand. All objects have gravity as an instrinsic property but if they didn't, I guess life as we know it couldn't have evolved.

But no, my questions were serious. The last time I learnt about all this stuff was 30 years ago. I didn't pursue science at all.

(I re-edited and rephrased my answer which was ambiguous, my level of English... And by "serious", I didn't mean that your questions were stupid, I meant that I sometimes have trouble distinguishing irony in English; and besides that, I'm not a specialist either, just a science enthusiast)
The term "force" is acceptable, I think, since it's a way of speaking that makes sense to everyone, the thing is that Gravity has long been considered as a force in the physical sense of the term (until Einstein basically). I think we can use the term "force" when talking about magnetism since it is a question of interaction between particles to result in magnetic fields that generate an attractive force.

 

[Forever Sleep]

(I re-edited and rephrased my answer which was ambiguous, my level of English... And by "serious", I didn't mean that your questions were stupid, I meant that I sometimes have trouble distinguishing irony in English; and besides that, I'm not a specialist either, just a science enthusiast)
The term "force" is acceptable, I think, since it's a way of speaking that makes sense to everyone, the thing is that Gravity has long been considered as a force in the physical sense of the term (until Einstein basically). I think we can use the term "force" when talking about magnetism since it is a question of interaction between particles to result in magnetic fields that generate an attractive force.

Your English is really good.

Interesting. What did Einstein suggest that made us view it differently? Being lazy there- I should find out myself.

But, as I understand it then- do you mean before Einstein, people viewed gravity as an indepedent force? Are there even independent forces? Surely, all forces rely on the properties of an object? So- magnetism relies on the type of substance. Friction is one object rubbing another etc.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Ol Messier 87]

Your English is really good.

Interesting. What did Einstein suggest that made us view it differently? Being lazy there- I should find out myself.

Einstein tends to demonstrate with his "general relativity" that the Universe (space-time) distorts itself according to the mass (so the amount of energy) to which it is subjected. For example, thanks to this theory, he succeeded (among other things) in announcing a phenomenon still unknown at the time "a gravitational lens effect". He predicted that near the sun, during an occultation, we should be able to observe stars that should not be there, and this was indeed the case. The photons emitted by these distant stars were deflected upon contact with the sun's strong mass and gravity.

But, as I understand it then- do you mean before Einstein, people viewed gravity as an indepedent force? Are there even independent forces? Surely, all forces rely on the properties of an object? So- magnetism relies on the type of substance. Friction is one object rubbing another etc.

Oh before Einstein... That's a long story. But laws of physics as we pretty much know them today... Just forget it.
The 19th century was revolutionary in many ways.
Well, we owe our conception of modern physics to many other geniuses besides Einstein, but he definitely shook things up.
(I remind you not to take my word for it, once again I am not a specialist, I might be wrong on some things or imprecise)

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Newton invented gravity because he is a little bitch boy who deserves to go to hell. How dare he create what is now considered to be a fundamental force of this universe. I wanna float into space and Issac was all like "no, down to the ground with you" and now I'm here with you losers and my pants is wet but it can't be from me peeing myself because I haven't drink anything in 35 days so I don't know where the wetness is from and there is also some weird dude who is watching me from outside my window and I'm scared because he looks very threatening and there are hole in the wall.

I hope that Isaac Newton is burning in the pits of hell right now, forced to listen to Jojo Siwa's song Karma for th rest of eternity. I hate that man with all my being. Karma's a bitch, he should known better. If I had a wish it would be for Issac's eternal suffering.

 

[3/4Dead]

ELECTRIC UNIVERSE THEORY ELECTRIC UN-

(im joking i hope thats clear)

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Gravity was discovered rather than invented. It always existed but humans (probably) couldn't make sense of it until issac newton gave his theory about gravity. The laws of physics will always exist regardless of whether we know about them or not