Do you think suicide is easier than fixing your problems?

[noname223]

Is it the easy way out? Certainly not. But is it easier?

After trying to recover in so many ways and still clinging to a miracle to save me I ask myself whether it would be just easier to kill myself than to play this lottery.

I speculate which decisions could make a recovery easier but I end up with a conclusion that it is close to impossible for me. Suicide instead does not seem to be totally impossible for me. So it seems like suicide is at least easier. Despite the insane SI.

But I am not sure whether suicidal people actually think about this decision in these terms. Maybe some. More often I think about my pain limit and when this threshold is reached then it is game over.

 

[LapseInTime]

"Fixing" (need to discuss what that means) certain problems is not possible, unfortunately. Thus, suicide is not easier, it's just possible, much unlike fixing my problems. If anything, it's harder, I won't hide that I feel afraid I'm going to fail, afraid there is going to be pain involved, afraid of getting caught, scared of the consequences of it if I don't get things right. But I know I can't go on. Some cheap rationalization or changing my viewpoint so that I can live a life that's not worth living, it's not going to cut it, it never did.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

That's an interesting question. I think in my case, fixing my main problem would probably be easier but that would mean I have to accept certain tings (facts) that I reject to accept. I would have to start wage-slaving and that won't fix the problem as a whole.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

My problems are with existence itself and I acknowledge that my suicide cannot fix existence itself but it certainly can prevent me from suffering horrifically in the future. So, in a sense, I guess that killing myself is easier than fixing existence although I don't think that I have the resources available to kill myself

 

[Hotsackage]

Nothing is easy

 

[Dot]

Slf hve mangd neithr s/ cnnt sy eithr wy tbf

 

[SVEN]

Not if existence itself presents the problem, in which case ctb is solving the problem.

 

[PetrichorBirth]

Is it the easy way out? Certainly not. But is it easier?

After trying to recover in so many ways and still clinging to a miracle to save me I ask myself whether it would be just easier to kill myself than to play this lottery.

I speculate which decisions could make a recovery easier but I end up with a conclusion that it is close to impossible for me. Suicide instead does not seem to be totally impossible for me. So it seems like suicide is at least easier. Despite the insane SI.

But I am not sure whether suicidal people actually think about this decision in these terms. Maybe some. More often I think about my pain limit and when this threshold is reached then it is game over.

It seems that whatever you do, you can't escape the concept of a lottery. Whether it's easier really depends on your situation, pain threshold and your plan.
In any case, you probably shouldn't try to identify yourself with some general group of 'suicidal people', as if every suicidal person thinks the same way. It's a very subjective feeling, and if you think of this decision in your terms, that's okay.

I personally think that if a situation gets bad enough, an affected person will stop caring about the prospect of pain, because normal existence already brings more pain than suicide would bring. What does that mean for you? I don't know. At least you are thinking about recovery.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Not every problem has a solution.

I'm not the only person here with an incurable, unfixable health problem that will progressively get worse as they age.

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

If not wanting to participate in this broken society is considered 'my" problem, then yes, suicide is much easier.

 

[destinationlosangel]

Its not the easy way but sometimes i feel like that is what the universe wants for me. I've tried a lot lol.

For me, suicide feels like the logical way.

 

[TheHolySword]

Suicide will fix my problems

 

[EternalLight]

During the 9/11 deep event, people jumped out of the towers to escape the flames. It was suicide, but the alternative was to burn alive or suffocate by smoke inhalation. It's a different situation, but the metaphor of escaping a burning building is useful. Surely it wasn't an easy thing to jump, but behind them was something worse.

Personally, my troubles are largely internal, shadow-related, and the struggle with them is something that has lasted for most of my life. Over time, the regret and sorrow have built up behind me as flames, whose searing heat I feel against my skin. The smoke surrounds me, and I yearn to breathe clean air, but I see no exit but the window. The cool breeze that flows in from the outside feels pleasant.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'm not afraid of hard work. I'll even put up with some discomfort and fear- if I need to face problems like social anxiety, lack of confidence. (Which I would need to do in a big way to go down the recovery route.) But- it needs to feel worthwhile to motivate me. And- it doesn't anymore. So, that's my issue. It's not just that living (thriving rather) would be difficult- perhaps more difficult in some ways. (Although, I've never attempted and obviously, never died so- I can't know for sure.) It's more that- Why would I put in all that hard work and discomfort if it won't likely be worth it?

How do I know it won't? Because I've spent the past 44 years putting in hard work and discomfort. I feel like I know what will and won't work for me.

 

[LukaParrot]

Very different points of views, thanks for sharing them.

Each one of us is unique, I wasted my life, I want a wife and maybe a kid. I'm old now, I could still get marry and even have a kid right? Yes! But I lost that will, I didnt experience when I was younger, find "that person", dating, feel in love, enjoy life, even sex, it's a part of it. Nowdays I cant even clean my house, clean my bathroom without feeling sick, my health is not was used to be.

I also depressed and burnout, very burnout from what I used to do for living. Also tried a lot to recover, 5 years. My resources are low now, I'm obsolete in my area, dont want to mess even get close from my "old" job stuff. Job market is also very hard nowdays, why hire a old man if you can hire 2-3 juniors with a lot of will and probably better productivity? I look at jobs outside my area, most are minimum-wage and very tough, life is not easy, and my bad back pain and my herniated disc problems, not seen a solution.

I dont see as self-pitty, I also had good life during some time in my past. I'm aware that my choices took the path that lead to this, and a little chunk of bad luck.

I'm not going to suicide becase I want to "restart" again, I wanna rest my soul for a long time. Ask for forgiveness to god to not return here so early.

 

[nomoredolor]

Is it the easy way out? Certainly not. But is it easier?

After trying to recover in so many ways and still clinging to a miracle to save me I ask myself whether it would be just easier to kill myself than to play this lottery.

I speculate which decisions could make a recovery easier but I end up with a conclusion that it is close to impossible for me. Suicide instead does not seem to be totally impossible for me. So it seems like suicide is at least easier. Despite the insane SI.

But I am not sure whether suicidal people actually think about this decision in these terms. Maybe some. More often I think about my pain limit and when this threshold is reached then it is game over.

100000% it's easier for me and I love myself so I want to prevent future suffering. Sure there are good times. But they don't outweigh the bad times. And I am well over my threshold. I attempted earlier this month. And I play to order SN and die sometime in the first half of 2025. I am going to give away my things and pack up my house.

Hugs to you
Anna

 

[SilentSadness]

Unfortunately for me I don't have a finite number of problems since people keep creating new ones for me to enjoy. So fixing problems doesn't actually have an effect. The worst problem is my existence here, there is always a potential for pain and suffering, well I don't want that chance, I don't care about any positives of gambling.

 

[alienfreak]

I tried to improve my life or fix my problems for many years. However, my experience of reality is completely absurd. All the good things that happened were entirely random and not the result of hard work. All the effort i put in was for nothing or actively harmed me. Bad things are unstoppable and unpredictable. So I can't see it as though it is a question of putting in effort to fix it: that's not how life works. Life is chaos and randomness. It's an underground, hellish casino: the question is whether i want to keep spending time there and gambling, when the probable outcome is likely horrific and grim by all estimates.

During the 9/11 deep event, people jumped out of the towers to escape the flames. It was suicide, but the alternative was to burn alive or suffocate by smoke inhalation. It's a different situation, but the metaphor of escaping a burning building is useful. Surely it wasn't an easy thing to jump, but behind them was something worse.

Personally, my troubles are largely internal, shadow-related, and the struggle with them is something that has lasted for most of my life. Over time, the regret and sorrow have built up behind me as flames, whose searing heat I feel against my skin. The smoke surrounds me, and I yearn to breathe clean air, but I see no exit but the window. The cool breeze that flows in from the outside feels pleasant.

I feel similarly and i like very much how you expressed it

 

[j.rez729]

There is no valid reason for me to be here other than for my mother. Once she's gone, I'm gone. I'm waiting for her to die first so she doesn't have to deal with her child's suicide. Other than that, I'm not interested in helping people, I'm not interested in learning lessons, I'm not interested in contributing to society, I'm not interested in being "successful". The mental health industry only exists to keep people from offing themselves so they'll continue to be wage slaves for the system. Therapists are really just prison guards, keeping you from exiting off of one of the ledges of this hell hole.

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

Not easier, just maybe more possible.

 

[coolgal82]

im ngl for me suicide is easier than even just fully understanding my problems and they cant be fixed if i dont properly understand them (and even if i did i still dont think they could be fixed and also like i dont think i deserve to be fixed alot of the time tbh)

 

[death_bed221]

Its easier in a way that its actually possible. I can kill myself. I cant fix my problems

 

[Kassender]

i don´t know about easier, but it´s certainly faster and it has more certainty on the outcome than trying to fix my life at this point

 

[Valhala]

There are solvable and unsolvable problems, unfortunately many problems are not solvable. CTB is anything but easy and if a person performs CTB only because it seems "easier" than solving a problem (provided that there is a solution for that problem), he in my opinion, he is wrong. However, if the problem is unsolvable, it gives everything a completely different meaning. On the other hand, the problem does not always have to be the cause of CTB, it can also be an appropriate understanding of the meaninglessness of further existence for numerous reasons and in that case CTB is certainly not "easier" but perhaps the only meaningful solution.

 

[L'absent]

I find existence horrible, I don't think there is any way to resolve this horror.

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

My biggest problems aren't the kind of things that can be fixed. No matter how hard I try, bipolar disorder and autism loom over me and will crush any progress I make. My life is destroyed so I have no solid ground to build myself up from. Anything I do to improve my condition is like building castles in the sand, destined to collapse and wash away before the day is over.

 

[dontwakemeup]

I think some situations are unfixable and you can't change them, only accept it. My problem is accepting the things I can not change. The problem is waking up and realizing this is my reality, and it's a very hard one, a lonely one. Suicide is easier for me because I'm exhausted with this life, tired of being in physical and mental pain. If there was a chance I could get euthanasia, I would spend my last dime for eternal peace.

 

[picklemick]

My opionion;

Circumstantial problems; job loss, divorce, financial issues, poverty, family issues. In general things in your life that could probably be overcome with work and time. Are probably worth trying to fix. Even though it's going to suck and you're probably still going to want to kill yourself along the journey but you can get out of these "situations" that are causing you pain.

Some mental issues can be at least helped with therapy medication etc for some people. Life may still suck but it might be manageable.

Now it becomes more complicated when these are combined with severe mental health issues that may prevent recovering from the situations impossible.


There's no real answer. Everyone has a tolerance to what they're willing to endure and what they aren't.

I feel like I've tried everything and I'm worse than I was before. I also have alcoholism which keeps fucking my hard work up. Even getting sober hasn't solved my problems

I can at least say I've tried everything at this point.

Suicide is not easy at all. It's actually probably the hardest option. But I feel it's all that's left for me



I

 

[Life'sA6itch]

The answer varies from person to person truly. One person's problems may be "easier" to fix than ctb, but life is full of never ending streams of problems. And, the majority of people globally simply do not have a never ending well of resources, tools, networks, education, experience, money, etc. from which to draw and eliminate or lessen their problems. Sure, one or more times one might experience goodwill of others helping them out, but for many there is no good luck or help. It truly depends on the individual and their extremely unique circumstances.

 

[toxicjester]

For me it's like, yea p much? It's still work either way, but at least suicide has a visible path with a concrete goal and thing to mark that it's been done.

If I were to try to fix one of my main issues, my relationship, that has a lot of nuances that even when I feel like I'm trying really hard, I'm really not and it doesn't matter what I do. I can't make her love herself or feel better about her appearance. There's no guide on that. And I'm too stupid to see a good way to do that. I can't fix her problems either, I'm the only one working and even now that I'm going to have two jobs, it won't be enough to get her anything anytime soon. Even she thinks that ctb would be easier, she's told me that she doesn't see a better way out and that I haven't given her a good reason

Suicide is difficult. Living is difficult. I kind of wish someone would just do the hard part for me. Accident or something. Dunno