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DarkRange55

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In the event that the PLA commenced a full scale invasion of Taiwan, what do you think the US response would be?
Do you think someone like Trump would actually be a strong wartime president and bring the full weight of US military might to bear?

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Personally I think we are going to see a lot more Taiwanese immigrants. Many people from there that I've spoken to about this are prepared to bail on the country entirely in the event of a China invasion.

As for what I think the US government response would be I think it would be about the same as I feel like it has been with Ukraine and Israel where no matter who is President, we will be doing both too much and too little to help them at the same time. The Democrats seem to be just as willing to ally with Taiwan if Nancy Pelosi's trip there was anything to go by but I can also see Trump being willing to do whatever he can in the name of spite for China, which seems to be what a lot of Taiwanese also believe about Trump.

I think what's more interesting is how China would fare in the aftermath. Taiwan is probably going to fall if China invades but there's reportedly a lot of countermeasures in place to make sure it will still be as inconvenient as possible for China. Supposedly the geography of Taiwan actually benefits it in a way that makes it difficult to be laid siege to from the West part of the island so as long as they can fortify the eastern side then they can keep it open for the US to drop supplies and reinforcements and stuff.

And all of this isn't even getting into the semiconductors that Taiwan has a monopoly over although efforts to make them in the US during the Trump Administration did not go unnoticed. War in Taiwan would probably also be pretty expensive and inconvenient for the US just not as much as it would be for China regardless of whether China wins or surrenders.
 
Agon321

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Most likely yes.

I don't know why the USA would abandon an ally like Taiwan.
If the USA didn't respond to this attack, the world would also consider it a huge weakness.

But let's remember that such an attack by China most likely means World War 3.
I don't think that China would attack Taiwan without some sensible plan. It wouldn't make sense.

Taiwan is an interesting topic in general.
I once saw military simulations of what such an attack by China on Taiwan could look like.
Taiwan is a VERY fortified island and it would definitely not be an easy invasion for China.

But another issue, is war profitable for China at the moment?
China is currently conquering other countries economically.
War is expensive and devastating.
Of course, China has internal problems and will have to deal with them somehow.

We will probably all agree that another world war is inevitable.
But I think everyone will wait and see how things unfold.
 
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I should note that the Chinese government has also been doing its level best to resort to disinformation warfare in both Taiwan and the US in order to convince the people of both nations that their leaders are weak. For them it's not always about which candidate gets elected as long as the people are thrown into chaos and distrustful of their government, not like the glorious People's Republic's faith in their beautiful dear leader Winnie the Pooh. Who knows their true agenda with all this disinformation though? If that somehow fails then that's how I can see them resorting to actual warfare.
 
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I should note that the Chinese government has also been doing its level best to resort to disinformation warfare in both Taiwan and the US in order to convince the people of both nations that their leaders are weak. For them it's not always about which candidate gets elected as long as the people are thrown into chaos and distrustful of their government, not like the glorious People's Republic's faith in their beautiful dear leader Winnie the Pooh. Who knows their true agenda with all this disinformation though? If that somehow fails then that's how I can see them resorting to actual warfare.
Yes, that's also an important point.

There are also theories that China helps distribute fentanyl in the US.
I haven't delved into this topic at all, so I don't know if it's more true or more Western propaganda (remember that both sides use aggressive propaganda).
But I have to admit that it would be a funny irony, considering the opium war.
The roles would be reversed.

In addition, we have such controversial topics as "dumbing down" Western society with various tricks.

China is a fascinating country and region of the world, but I hope it doesn't grab all the power.
Living under the American boot is better than living under the boot of China.
 
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Yes, that's also an important point.

There are also theories that China helps distribute fentanyl in the US.
I haven't delved into this topic at all, so I don't know if it's more true or more Western propaganda (remember that both sides use aggressive propaganda).
But I have to admit that it would be a funny irony, considering the opium war.
The roles would be reversed.

In addition, we have such controversial topics as "dumbing down" Western society with various tricks.

China is a fascinating country and region of the world, but I hope it doesn't grab all the power.
Living under the American boot is better than living under the boot of China.











I can tell you the CIA did move opium during the Vietnam War and possibly Afghanistan…

 
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