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It is a selfish but humanity don't matter, or life don't matter if you just died. After that what about others behind that are currently alive? Did you kill them by being non-existed?
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How can you be sure that? All that life you say is just a perception of your five senses. When you die, don't you think the life becomes non-existent as well FuneralCry? Do you think when you become non-existent life will continue out there? When you think 'objectively' yes. But when you think subjectively, how?but of course this hellish world will continue to exist. All that life is, is an endless cycle of suffering that so tragically continues to repeat.
I cannot be sure, I just believe that in my opinion this world will continue to exist for long after I'm gone. I personally believe that it would be for the best if this hellish world ended but if I no longer exist then at least it won't be of my concern anymore.How can you be sure that? All that life you say is just a perception of your five senses. When you die, don't you think the life becomes non-existent as well FuneralCry? Do you think when you become non-existent life will continue out there? When you think 'objectively' yes. But when you think subjectively, how?
Thanks at least you gave an honest answer. I was talking this topic with some of my friends. They were all like 'think objectively, life will continue...'I personally believe that it would be for the best if this hellish world ended but if I no longer exist then at least it won't be of my concern anymore.
No, I think that life goes on (just not yours). Other people's lives aren't my concern. It's my own life that will end, other people will keep on living. One person's death won't cause the whole world to stop or cease to exist.It is a selfish but humanity don't matter, or life don't matter if you just died. After that what about others behind that are currently alive? Did you kill them by being non-existed?
Do you think when you die, world dies with you?
Wouldn't it naturally make a sound though? It doesn't matter if people are there to hear it or not. Whoever thinks that the sound needs to be heard for it to be a sound is kinda dumb imo…I believe that things can exist without being perceived.Reminds me of, 'if a tree falls and no one hears it, does it make a sound?'
I think this thought experiment is meant challenge us to think whether something could exist if it is not perceived. So if you think the tree fall doesn't make a sound, then similarly you might think once you die nothing exists because you don't perceive anything.
conversely if you think it does make a sound then that means even if you don't perceive anything after death, things still do exist
The heat death of the universe is a hypothesis in one model, it may contract and restart, it may not shut down, entropy may be reverse, we simply do not know…I believe that, from my perspective, my version and perception of the world ends with me once I am dead. However, life itself will still continue to exist on earth whilst I'm gone but I simply won't be sentient to acknowledge any of it and that gives me peace. Of course life can't continue forever due to entropy and all but life will continue to exist for a finite amount of time after I'm dead
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The heat death of the universe is a hypothesis in one model, it may contract and restart, it may not shut down, entropy may be reverse, we simply do not know…
Mu favorite short story. It probably wouldn't be greatly appreciated in this online environment though
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The world as we know it will die when we're no longer able to perceive it. The physical world will remain.It is a selfish but humanity don't matter, or life don't matter if you just died. After that what about others behind that are currently alive? Did you kill them by being non-existed?
Sounds are vibrations we perceive as a sound. If there's no living being around to perceive sounds, then no it won't make a sound.Wouldn't it naturally make a sound though? It doesn't matter if people are there to hear it or not. Whoever thinks that the sound needs to be heard for it to be a sound is kinda dumb imo…I believe that things can exist without being perceived.
We are all the universe experiencing itselfThe universe implodes as well. You are the universe.
I believe that reality does not need to be perceived to be "real", and that it is independent of perception. We all know that falling trees make sounds, so someone being there to hear it or not wouldn't make a difference. Things can still exist if they're not perceived. There's an invisible world that birds and bees can see using ultraviolet light, just because humans can't see UV light doesn't mean that this world doesn't exist.Sounds are vibrations we perceive as a sound. If there's no living being around to perceive sounds, then no it won't make a sound.
Unless a device captures the event and someone and/or something that was able to perceive sound were to review the event at some point.
Perception is often deception.
If it doesn't matter if people are there to perceive things or not to make them real why is society so quick to judge people who "hallucinate."
What they perceive is 100% real to them. Who's in a position to deny their actual experience? It's rather cruel if you think about it.
Maybe those who are "schizophrenic" are actually right, maybe the majority of people are more deaf and blind than we are willing to accept.
Whenever I see or hear the phrase ". . . and no one hears it, . . .", I assume that the speaker is focused only on humans while ignoring other animals. Not only is the majority of animals capable of perceiving sound, but the sound sensitivity of many species surpasses that of humans. Every forest and every single tree is going to have at least a few animals who can still hear one falling.Wouldn't it naturally make a sound though? It doesn't matter if people are there to hear it or not. Whoever thinks that the sound needs to be heard for it to be a sound is kinda dumb imo…I believe that things can exist without being perceived.
The universe existed long before we did. Just as humanity existed before we were born.Sounds are vibrations we perceive as a sound. If there's no living being around to perceive sounds, then no it won't make a sound.
Unless a device captures the event and someone and/or something that was able to perceive sound were to review the event at some point.
Perception is often deception.
If it doesn't matter if people are there to perceive things or not to make them real why is society so quick to judge people who "hallucinate."
What they perceive is 100% real to them. Who's in a position to deny their actual experience? It's rather cruel if you think about it.
Maybe those who are "schizophrenic" are actually right, maybe the majority of people are more deaf and blind than we are willing to accept.
But if you wanna be philosophical about it, you could say that, "It is our sacred mission to take the cacophony of sounds around us and turn it into music."Whenever I see or hear the phrase ". . . and no one hears it, . . .", I assume that the speaker is focused only on humans while ignoring other animals. Not only is the majority of animals capable of perceiving sound, but the sound sensitivity of many species surpasses that of humans. Every forest and every single tree is going to have at least a few animals who can still hear one falling.
Some studies have shown that plants can sense and respond to certain sounds. Here is a brief article from Scientific American and another from California Academy of Sciences. If that's the case, then here's another kingdom of audiences that isn't taken into account.
And even if there are no other surrounding organisms to perceive sound, the fallen tree would still be create a ruckus as long as there is a medium (e.g. solid, liquid, or gas) for sound to travel through. The only way it would be silent is if it was in a vacuum.
Returning to the topic, the planet and its inhabitants will still exist after my immediate death. There are countless fossils of organisms that existed millions or billions of years ago as proof. Life will continue on Earth until every single species is extinct. And the planet will still be around until it's completely destroyed.
We all know that falling trees make sounds, so someone being there to hear it or not wouldn't make a difference. Things can still exist if they're not perceived. There's an invisible world that birds and bees can see using ultraviolet light, just because humans can't see UV light doesn't mean that this world doesn't exist.
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Would a falling tree make a sound in a vacuum?
We all know the sky is blue. Does that mean the sky is in fact actually blue? Is the sun yellow?
Is magic real when we can perceive a magician performing a magic trick?
"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." - Socrates
In that case wouldn't you also have to accept the possibility that everything could possibly exist beyond our perspective?Darkover said:
"Einstein famously asked, does the Moon not exist if nobody looks at it ?
Of course he was being sarcastic, expressing his incredulity at the implications of quantum theory.
for all practical purposes, they do exist. whether or not something is around to hear it or see it"