Do you wish you had never been born?

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

Antinatalism is a philosophical view that is critical of reproduction - they consider coming into existence as bad. Reasons why antinatalists believe procreation is immoral: life entails inevitable suffering, death is inevitable, humans are born without their consent and to procreate is to gamle with another person´s suffering. There is an unconscionable amount of needless suffering, injustice and death in the world with birth serving as the catalyst for it all. The world would be better if humans disappeared. Humanity is meaningless.

Stop having kids want to normalize antinatalism, childfreedom and caring for already existing life. Stop having kids want a future where creating biological children is no longer an expectation, a norm, or something most people casually do without putting substantial thought and investigation into. Creating new humans should not be taken lightly. It could easily be the most impactful and regretful decision someone ever makes. Those who never exist cannot be deprived by their absence if one had not existed. Those who never exist cannot be deprived.

A lot of humans wish they were never born. Many people live in meaningless suffering. The world does not need you to continue your bloodline genetics of family name. The last thing the world needs is another human. The Earth is already overpopulated.

STOP HAVING KIDS

 

[アホペンギン]

To answer the title: Yes, I wish I was never born.

It is best to keep children safe and immune from all harm, in wherever is before life. Its cruel to burden them with the ability to be in agony and suffer because the potential to suffer endlessly in this inhumane and senseless society is unlimited, like I said before many times. It is not worth bringing someone into this world and expose them to this uncalled for harm which is very unnecessary to endure in the first place.

Those who believe that bringing someone into this world is as if they're giving a gift to someone are completely ignorant and cruel. Not only will they suffer (taking care of children is very hard) but their children will suffer sooner or later as well.

 

[FuneralCry]

Of course I do, more than anything as to never exist is perfection. Nothingness is the ideal state and it's tragic to disturb that by forcing life into this hellish reality.
To have the ability to exist is such a harmful, repulsive and undesirable thing, I wish people were compassionate enough to prevent all human agony and suffering by not forcing life here, realistically this species should go voluntarily extinct, it's the only rational outcome.

 

[Lys_C15H25N3O_d3]

i wish i hadn't been born, You are born from an act of lust and for that according to theologists you're doomed , then after much suffering and loss and regret you're left with the choice of submitting yourself to demiurge and accept everything good bad regardless.. or face the so called-eternal damnation, why so called? have we tasted eternity? would you like to? no not an eternity of this. if only the foolish attachment or self-pity didnt exist. the thought of "ceasing to exist by all accounts" isnt sometimes uncomfortable? all this meaningless suffering for nothing in the end? yeah, having kids is selfish.. the purpose of having a family, a happy faithful partner. professional achievements peace. (as opposed to the typical 24-7 chaotic setting) life is an act of selfishness in its own, we need to rely on other people and our expectations to enjoy subjective achievements/pleasures (you might think you have a good life, a car a nice job but you spend about 16 hours a day away from home, and your wife might be a lying cheating comfortable opportunist. your kids grow up feeling in this ever messed up planet. you might be worried about an affair with someone at work;. so. life isnt the american dream ad.... they came up with this idea only to make money out of birth certificates and run the scam that financial system is
so in the end everything is reduced to greed and selfishness. sure there are things worth living for but a large part of this planet can agree that some people appreciate living, others would give anything to experience joy (and usually do, but can't , regardless of how life goes $$$ carreer. etc etc etc; nothing makes sense if you stop and think for a second

Of course I do, more than anything as to never exist is perfection. Nothingness is the ideal state and it's tragic to disturb that by forcing life into this hellish reality.
To have the ability to exist is such a harmful, repulsive and undesirable thing, I wish people were compassionate enough to prevent all human agony and suffering by not forcing life here, realistically this species should go voluntarily extinct, it's the only rational outcome.

i was just going to add that eventually this species will bring its own demise

 

[Dead Ghost]

It doesn't cross my mind normally (only in the hardest times). But I'm not in favor of anti-natalism because human history has already amply demonstrated that the only realistic way to eliminate suffering in the future (since you can't prevent births from continuing ) is to continue evolving and improving people's quality of life.. but of course, it is very long-term and until this milestone is reached there will be many people who will not want to participate (who must respect and facilitate a dignified exit without prejudice of any kind) and others who will oppose it firmly and with determination with determined actions that will only lead to more suffering.

Also, letting it go now means going back and starting over, the path is always the same.

//

No se'm passa pel cap normalment (només en els moments més durs). Pero no estic a favor de l'antinatalisme perquè la història de la humanitat ja ha demostrat de sobres que l'única manera realista d'el·liminar el patiment en el futur (ja que no pots evitar que segueixin haven't-hi neixaments) és seguir evolucionant i millorant la qualitat de vida de les persones.. però es clar, és a molt llarg termini i fins que s'assoleixi aquesta fita seràn moltes les persones que no desitjaràn participar-hi (a les quals s'ha de respectar i facilitar una sortida digne sense prejudicis de cap mena) i d'altres que s'hi oposaràn fermament i amb determinació amb accions determinades que no portaràn més que a més patiment.

A més, deixar-ho estar ara implica tornar enrere i començar de nou, el camí sempre és el mateix.

 

[sserafim]

Antinatalism is a philosophical view that is critical of reproduction - they consider coming into existence as bad. Reasons why antinatalists believe procreation is immoral: life entails inevitable suffering, death is inevitable, humans are born without their consent and to procreate is to gamle with another person´s suffering. There is an unconscionable amount of needless suffering, injustice and death in the world with birth serving as the catalyst for it all. The world would be better if humans disappeared. Humanity is meaningless.

Stop having kids want to normalize antinatalism, childfreedom and caring for already existing life. Stop having kids want a future where creating biological children is no longer an expectation, a norm, or something most people casually do without putting substantial thought and investigation into. Creating new humans should not be taken lightly. It could easily be the most impactful and regretful decision someone ever makes. Those who never exist cannot be deprived by their absence if one had not existed. Those who never exist cannot be deprived.

A lot of humans wish they were never born. Many people live in meaningless suffering. The world does not need you to continue your bloodline genetics of family name. The last thing the world needs is another human. The Earth is already overpopulated.

STOP HAVING KIDS

Yes, I wish this everyday. The only reason why I'm still alive is because I don't have the courage or bravery to try to die (due to the possibility of failure). In my opinion, the worst thing possible is ending up with permanent damage due to a failed attempt. It's strange that no one even chose to be here on this earth, but we don't have a guaranteed way or even the right to die. This is just so absurd to me…

 

[EternalShore]

May be unpopular around here but not really~
My childhood was nice! I'm glad I got to live through it~ :) However, I just wish I was granted mercy afterwards! >_< Every day I wish I had done it the first time I thought about it! :(((

 

[sserafim]

i wish i hadn't been born, You are born from an act of lust and for that according to theologists you're doomed , then after much suffering and loss and regret you're left with the choice of submitting yourself to demiurge and accept everything good bad regardless.. or face the so called-eternal damnation, why so called? have we tasted eternity? would you like to? no not an eternity of this. if only the foolish attachment or self-pity didnt exist. the thought of "ceasing to exist by all accounts" isnt sometimes uncomfortable? all this meaningless suffering for nothing in the end? yeah, having kids is selfish.. the purpose of having a family, a happy faithful partner. professional achievements peace. (as opposed to the typical 24-7 chaotic setting) life is an act of selfishness in its own, we need to rely on other people and our expectations to enjoy subjective achievements/pleasures (you might think you have a good life, a car a nice job but you spend about 16 hours a day away from home, and your wife might be a lying cheating comfortable opportunist. your kids grow up feeling in this ever messed up planet. you might be worried about an affair with someone at work;. so. life isnt the american dream ad.... they came up with this idea only to make money out of birth certificates and run the scam that financial system is
so in the end everything is reduced to greed and selfishness. sure there are things worth living for but a large part of this planet can agree that some people appreciate living, others would give anything to experience joy (and usually do, but can't , regardless of how life goes $$$ carreer. etc etc etc; nothing makes sense if you stop and think for a second

i was just going to add that eventually this species will bring its own demise

Literally! I completely agree with everything you said. You said my thoughts exactly. I hate the fact that we're all forced to live in this capitalistic society, it's so absurd. I completely agree that our financial system is a scam, it's literally a pyramid scheme if you think about it. I hate the fact that everything in this capitalistic world is dominated by greed and selfishness.

I also believe that eventually humanity will bring its own demise. Humanity will cause its own destruction…look at how we're destroying the planet without a care, and resulting in the extinction of so many animals. Humans are literally the most selfish species. We raise and breed animals just for them to die and GET EATEN BY US (like honestly wtf), and force them to live in inhumane conditions. So many animals are suffering just because of us. Humanity causes so much suffering on this planet. Honestly, objectively, the planet would be better off without us. We haven't contributed anything positive to the planet, we've just depleted its resources and slaughtered its animals. We've literally destroyed and devastated earth, our home planet. We treat it so poorly, yet we want to escape to Mars and destroy it as well.

The worst thing is that so much human suffering in the world is caused by other humans. We literally cause each other to suffer. Look at the corporate overlords forcing the working class to work until they die. This is literally modern day slavery.

But I guess that's what happens when you're at the top of the food chain…you have freedom and free reign to do whatever you want just to suit your selfish agenda. And humans are the most selfish of all

 

[Immensevoid]

Yes, I wish I was never born all the time.

 

[Lys_C15H25N3O_d3]

Literally! I completely agree with everything you said. You said my thoughts exactly. I hate the fact that we're all forced to live in this capitalistic society, it's so absurd. I completely agree that our financial system is a scam, it's literally a pyramid scheme if you think about it. I hate the fact that everything in this capitalistic world is dominated by greed and selfishness.

I also believe that eventually humanity will bring its own demise. Humanity will cause its own destruction…look at how we're destroying the planet without a care, and resulting in the extinction of so many animals. Humans are literally the most selfish species. We raise and breed animals just for them to die and GET EATEN BY US (like honestly wtf), and force them to live in inhumane conditions. So many animals are suffering just because of us. Humanity causes so much suffering on this planet. Honestly, objectively, the planet would be better off without us. We haven't contributed anything positive to the planet, we've just depleted its resources and slaughtered its animals. We've literally destroyed and devastated earth, our home planet. We treat it so poorly, yet we want to escape to Mars and destroy it as well.

The worst thing is that so much human suffering in the world is caused by other humans. We literally cause each other to suffer. Look at the corporate overlords forcing the working class to work until they die. This is literally modern day slavery.

But I guess that's what happens when you're at the top of the food chain…you have freedom and free reign to do whatever you want just to suit your selfish agenda. And humans are the most selfish of all

" We haven't contributed anything positive to the planet, " - yes i believe we haven't , we're told lies since childhood, school, (college for those who didnt drop) then what ? its literally modern day slavery, living reduces to "survival of the fittest (hypocrisy, humanity always "thrived" alongside rivers of blood, pillaging enslaving subduing and indoctrinating . this frail yet oppressive system that is modern society, can colapse very fast. humanity can be worse than "a virus". without any host it eats its own . Artificial Intelligence is modulating and "mimicking emotions" wow should we clap our hands? play bladerunner in reverse? or "copy what it does? for centuries theres the debate over "automatons". now theres AI constantly emphasizing the "need of an ethics debate" this so-called debate should have been settled 10 years ago when C.R.I.S.P.R came out. was marketed as "NOW you can choose your baby like ordering a meal, picking up gene characteristics at will" (has anyone ever questioned the "ethics" of that? no, because seems some "alphabet agencies including the tax-free ones, NGOs and "think tanks" are more into chimera virus splicing. what for? does anyone know of a "3D printed liver?" if there is, surely is not philanthropy . but smart cities, robo-lawyers, "viral pseudotyping" (the process of "creating a virus to better study it in "safer environments" (great idea, theres solutions for everything all that s necessary is a problem) and now, "cancer cure" =O...
after the printing press was invented industrial revolution took place, humanity is on a downward spiral. ask any chatbot what would humans be useful for when machines acquire the ability of self-repairing ? of course you'll get a mixed answer like : "You have a valid amazing interesting point! It would be great when AI is able to maintain itself without humans, the downside is that humanity would severely decrease in number, so thats the importance of ethics comitee blablablabla" see? its already spelled..

EVEN IF WE HAD BEEN entitled to exist here peacefully (as much as one can hope) like you said: "We haven't contributed with anything positive to the planet" ... so , happy smiley people, tell us which meds you are hooked on. i wanna 3 truckloads of it. since NOT BEING depressed in such a setting... would be like a be an anomaly. Then WE are called "sick depressed people" guess we have a broader view of life than just the usual "make $$$$ find a "hot young girl/ or become the embodiment of the same stereotypes which used to be pejorative, " post pics selfies stories or whatever the hell those social narcissistic networks offer paste a quote from any random book people never read. pretend you're cool, at least as much as you'd like people to think of you. lie cheat deceive hurt and in the end pray popular psalms without even understanding but expecting to get a "doomed-eternity bail out ticket" in exchange.
really ,
THE ONLY authentic choice (not the ones imposed to us) but since we have no saying whether we want to be "summoned" here to suffer and enjoy the pain "cause it can always get worse" yeah the only choice of not taking part of this insanity is seemed as "unethical" "immoral".. aww come on gimme a break, just got out of the mental ward, after explaining that "I'm not having sui caedere ideations, i just don't have what to live for anymore". after losing what you deem most precious, do we need "to look for other purposes? it nullifies what you "previously vowed to" at least thought it was worth sharing the burden of all this with .. someone who backstabs you , "because sometimes we need to be selfish" oh really should we? "because we can't control our heart" yeah we can't thats what the autonomous CNS is for. by the way id change my heart for a new pair of lungs or better, a new set of neurotransmitters to melt it all over again... =X i give up, it sucks being a coward and making excuses like "nah i havent gone through car crashes watched guns jam right on my face severed 2 tendoms on the hand (no more piano or guitar) . almost had to amputate a leg due to spider bite, the knee ligaments popped up so goodbye muay thai, went through coma lost memories and caused more brain damage than all the glue i sniffed as a teen.. why all the hassle ? what am i still doing here? why am i typing all this? havent i had enough? sleep deprivation and abstraction is that is, not even hunger. right those are my last days here what joy is there left? no sleep tonight again. don't want to. scared of waking up. the worst part. for now i need to shut up drink up and watch the same repeated movies read the same books one last time. its not working . forgive me the ridiculously long post id love to silence my mind and , hear someone else not me anymore not even mentally

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Do you wish you had never been born?

Yes !!!!

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

My parents should not have reproduced - that thing is certain. That is why I am writing here.

 

[sserafim]

My parents should not have reproduced - that thing is certain. That is why I am writing here.

Same, I hate the fact that they did

 

[Notwinnernotawin]

Yes

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yes, I wish this. I do hold antinatilist views but I'm not militant about it.

 

[Tobacco]

I do wish I had never been born. I have no hope for a much better future. My infancy and teenage years don't make it worth coming to this point where I just see a desolated future. All I had were illusions.
What's the point of living if you become a wageslave and from that point on your life is just a copypaste from the same day over and over until you die. It's tempting to just skip to the end...

 

[sserafim]

I do wish I had never been born. I have no hope for a much better future. My infancy and teenage years don't make it worth coming to this point where I just see a desolated future. All I had were illusions.
What's the point of living if you become a wageslave and from that point on your life is just a copypaste from the same day over and over until you die. It's tempting to just skip to the end...

Same! A main reason why I want to ctb is to escape becoming a wageslave to capitalism. I really see no point in adulthood and having to live life as an adult. I see no future for myself as an adult and I don't want one either. What's the point of working away your life for 50 years? Living the same day on repeat sounds so unfulfilling to me. I'd hate to do the same thing over and over again each day. Life at that point would be like a simulation, living in the matrix. That sounds so depressing and boring to me. I just want to fast forward to the end

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

The only way to escape suffering is to never be born.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

The only way to escape suffering is to never be born.

 

[Kit1]

I wish I was not born. I wish that my parents had been successful in aborting me. I wish I wasn't here.

 

[wanttodie]

yes i do

 

[Celerity]

Yes, unless I somehow manage to do something very useful with my life, I would rather I had never been born.

I can only think of a handful of people who would have been impacted by my non-existence. My mother would possibly have left my dad and lived a happier life if she had not become pregnant with me. My dad, on the other hand, would be unambiguously worse off. The odds of him finding another wife are slim to none, and he can barely take care of himself nowadays. My brother probably would have been less mistreated by my dad, though maybe not, as he was a real piece of work when he was a younger man. Beyond that, speculating on any meaningful influence I have had gets fuzzy. I tried to help one childhood friend who was in a very bad spot, but "tried" is the operative word. I didn't exactly succeed in helping her, so what did I really accomplish aside from moral support?

 

[3x+1]

No, I am fully happy that I was born
I 100% agree that life is given without consent and wishing to exit it or not have been born at all is very logical and valid! But for me life has been generous, I was very lucky from starting it, I managed to feel way more happinness than pain mostly of my life. I know that its pretty egocentric to feel happy about how life is when we see all the horrific things that we do in this world to ourself, life on earth is mostly horrific and very painful!
But I still manage to enjoy every little desire for myself, because I fear death...
I believe that death is just fade to black and that it's the pure peace a lot of people are looking for, but the idea of eternity scares me that I may not have done enough things on this earth before leaving, I want to enjoy every single things I can even if that means I will have to suffer for it, because I know that no matter how much pain I go through its just a matter of time before we all find peace...

For the desire of having kids, I am not sure yet, I don't want to be too egocentric by putting someone to life without their consent and maybe making them endure a life full of pain and yet I don't want to be too scared to not overcome this obstacle and trying to have a kid with their own opinions on this life and fully enjoy what it can give

Sorry if my response is coming a bit, against suicide. I am not against it and I am fully supporting the act to CBT to find peace if life is too painful ! Peace to all.

 

[Wayfaerer]

I used to not care either way. For the longest time I thought that since I was born I will suffer only temporarily and If I weren't born then I would not exist to care in the first place. That changed in early 2020 when I became convinced that the likelihood of our lives repeating indefinitely was uncomfortably high and then I really, intensively regretted it. That and some bones life has thrown my way, some odd and nasty ones, are the only reason why I am still here today. If the covid scam had not happened right as it did then I am very sure I would not be here right now after three years later.

Life is meaningless, merciless and cruel but works in incredible ways nonetheless. Since the events of my life unfolding the way that they had almost convinces me that none of it was purely an accident and my entire subjective experience may just be some science experiment from aliens trying to keep me alive for as long as possible to garner information on psychological torture. I don't really know anymore, it's all just been so coincidental it's hard to believe that it's just by pure happenstance. I am more willing to entertain a lot of crazy ideas these days than I was before. I kind of missed the simplicity of the way I perceived life back then but there is definitely no going back now.

Glad to see SS finally incorporated a board for philosophy, I may return here more frequently now. I just cannot get enough of this stuff.

 

[needrelief18]

Yes. Cluster B personality disorders (which I have) are developed in early childhood via trauma from primary caregivers. Once developed these disorders are incurable and lifelong - it's best described as a soul death as the victim is divorced from connection to his being.
Yes. I have a personality disorder which are lifelong and incurable generated in early childhood via abuse from primary caregivers. It's a soul death. No person would choose it. I'd prefer to not have been born.

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

The longer I live, the more I wish I had never been born.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

I do wish that. But most people are happy being alive. I blame my mental illness

 

[Vesiira]

Definitely. If I wasn't born, I wouldn't have had gone through all the hurt. I appreciate the limited beauty of the world, but I have never felt like I belonged. I wish I could've avoided existing.

 

[kane9191kosugi]

For sure lol. Family completely shattered due to BS prosecution, bullying in basically every stage of school year, having stuttering disability, not being able to get a single job (don't even want to) due to having social anxiety and not being able to make human relationship, …etc.

Like is there a point in living anymore if you knew life is only going to get worse from here on lmao. Why was I even born in the first place lol.
On top of my personal life, which can't get any more shittier, there are domestic and international problems which just oozes despair and disappointment for the future.

I wish I never woke up and just passed out unconscious. Good riddance.

 

[tunnelV]

Here is a funny story. My father is a narcissist and my mother is passed away. My father told me "your mother wanted an abortion with you and I stopped her" true or not the fact is he did it to try to make her look bad. Additionally he totally abandoned me as a kid. He only had time to be finally when all the hard work was done and I was a full grown adult. I don't want to be around that scumbag. The thing is when he said that It made me dislike him more. Like oh cool you convince her to go through with the pregnancy. All so you could leave, all so I could have a horrible life. Whatever he was trying to pull trying to make himself look like some type of hero backfired. I lost even more respect for him. He thinks everyone is happy in life because his life was good and easy.