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Are you new to hanging? Or maybe just trying to find out if hanging is the right method for you? This reading guide has you covered! This is your one stop shop to both partial suspension hanging and full suspension hanging.

This is a reading guide to the guides I published on this forum so far. I will arrange the guides in the order you should read them. I highly recommend you read them all.

With this, I guarantee you will find out whether or not hanging is right for you and, if it is a good fit, you'll have all the knowledge you need to hang yourself like an expert.

Unfortunately I can't edit the original post, so in case of future updates check the replies below.

With all that out the way, let's begin!


1) Learn about a simple experiment you can do to know what a successful partial suspension hanging feels like:

2) Learn from how others have managed to kill themselves with partial suspension hanging:

Editor's note: At the moment of writing, I didn't publish any written guide on partial suspension hanging specifically, since for the vast majority of people it just won't work. But it follows a lot of the same principles of full suspension hanging, so you can read the guides below to get an idea on how partial suspension hanging should be done. Particularly, look at step 6 of this guide.

3) Once the frustration from partial suspension hanging sets in, learn about how it feels to kill yourself with full suspension hanging:

4) Learn all the basics of full suspension hanging:

5) Learn about suitable anchor points for full suspension hanging available to anyone:

6) Learn about common mistakes in hanging and how to avoid them (valid also for partial suspension hanging):

7) Learn some important information on hanging:


Hope this is a good source of information to everyone! May you all find peace in your journey!
 
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why advise against placing the knot near adam's apple ?
Because putting the knot behind the neck cruch the wind pipe. There is way more pain this way. I suppose that puting the knot bellow the chin is not good to fully compress carotids ?
 
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why advise against placing the knot near adam's apple ?
Because putting the knot behind the neck cruch the wind pipe. There is way more pain this way. I suppose that puting the knot bellow the chin is not good to fully compress carotids ?
The carotid arteries are most exposed on the top of the neck, above the Adam's apple, near the hyoid bone.

Yes, unfortunately the windpipe will always be affected, if you want to compress the carotids properly. There's no way around it.
 
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I just found out that a successful partial suspension hanging attempt requires you to collapse your windpipe, which is similar to holding your breath. You can easily collapse your windpipe by relaxing your neck muscles.
Previously I used to think that partial suspension hanging is noisy (since you will breathe heavily), but actually, it's silent since you can't breathe.
I found out how to collapse my windpipe by tying a noose, putting it around my neck and pulling it upwards after relaxing my neck muscles: I could feel this technique working.

Maybe collapsing your windpipe is not what's really happening, but you're definitely obstructing your airway.

Please share your thoughts on this. I'm eager to hear what you think.
 
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It's not the windpipe that gets collapsed, my bad. What really happens is that your hyoid bone obstructs your airway.

I just tried this right now and I'll try to describe it as best as I can. So, I tied a noose knot on a bathrobe belt, put it around my neck and then I slowly pulled it upwards using my hands. I made sure to relax the muscles of the neck to avoid pinching them (I just mentally release all tension from the neck muscles). Next, I just pulled hard upwards until I could feel the upper part of my airway blocking my ability to breathe (if you imagine the airway like a tube, imagine it being compressed on the upper part). I tried to go a few seconds like that and I could hear echoes and I could feel it working, but I just couldn't handle being out of breath... I mean, out of breath and uncapable of breathing. It's very very similar to the experiment I posted about some time ago, where you pull the rope upwards while pinching your nose.

I imagine that's how partial suspension hanging works, since in the videos I posted a lot of them have agonal breathing. The only reason I can't go through with it is because it's not as reliable as full suspension hanging. But yeah, it's more uncomfortable than painful.
 
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What type of rope would you recomend?
 
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UPDATE!

If you want to learn how to hang yourself at home or in a hotel but have no anchor point, check out this thread:

If you want to learn how to hang yourself indoors, but didn't get any use out of my previous suggestion, check out this thread:
 
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How long would it take to lose consciousness in either method?
Or put another way, how long would u need to endure to get through the physical pain?

It's a common method and i think how famous people have done it (chris cornell, chester bennington, robin williams, michael hutchence, david foster wallace, sulli, kate spade...) and they got through the SI somehow, sometimes with prescription meds/benzos and alcohol in their systems.

Would alcohol and klonopin help to fight through the SI?
 
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How long would it take to lose consciousness in either method?
Or put another way, how long would u need to endure to get through the physical pain?

It's a common method and i think how famous people have done it (chris cornell, chester bennington, robin williams, michael hutchence, david foster wallace, sulli, kate spade...) and they got through the SI somehow, sometimes with prescription meds/benzos and alcohol in their systems.

Would alcohol and klonopin help to fight through the SI?
With full suspension you should lose consciousness within 20 seconds. For partial, the time until unconsciousness is wildly variable; it's not as easy to estimate as full suspension since you're applying only a fraction of your body weight.

I never attempted to hang myself with alcohol or benzos in my system, so I can't comment on whether or not they could help with survival instinct. But I heard some people say that alcohol makes your SI worse.

I tend to advise staying sober before hanging yourself to avoid making mistakes.

By the way, there's a video on YouTube about some girl managing to hang herself in her closet after taking some klonopin, so I'm assuming klonopin helps with SI? Or maybe klonopin had no effect on the fact that she succeeded at hanging herself with partial suspension? Who knows.

Here's the video:
 
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I can't help but think that when you're unconscious but still alive, it's still possible to feel pain in one way or another. No testimony can confirm or deny this. Hence this crucial question: how many minutes between loss of consciousness and death?
 
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I can't help but think that when you're unconscious but still alive, it's still possible to feel pain in one way or another. No testimony can confirm or deny this. Hence this crucial question: how many minutes between loss of consciousness and death?
You should be death in less than 30 minutes.

By the way, people who survived hanging themselves report not feeling anything after losing consciousness, meaning no pain.
 
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Thx. That said, no memory doesn't necessarily mean no pain.
 
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UPDATE!

If you want to learn how hanging compares against all other suicide methods in terms of comfort and reliability, check out this thread:

 
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Yes, unfortunately the windpipe will always be affected, if you want to compress the carotids properly. There's no way around it.
No. Why do you think people use cornhole bags, or the like, and metal rings that the rope is wrapped through, in order to remove the pressure from the trachea?
 
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opinion on using a dog leash for hanging? both for full suspension and partial
 
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No. Why do you think people use cornhole bags, or the like, and metal rings that the rope is wrapped through, in order to remove the pressure from the trachea?
What metal rings? I've read about the cornhole bags but not rings.
 
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Reference for future readers, this has been discussed here:

 
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UPDATE!

If you want to learn what a successful suicide attempt using the night-night suicide method looks like, check out this thread:

 
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Reference for future readers, this has been discussed here:

Why quote me? I'm answering someone's specific question. And, for the record, AGAIN, in order for a hanging to be "painless", the pressure needs to be kept off the trachea. This is well known fact. Let's not try reinventing the wheel here. Need more proof?

https://web.archive.org/web/20211123040828/https://suicide.wiki/w/Hanging
 
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Why quote me? I'm answering someone's specific question. And, for the record, AGAIN, in order for a hanging to be "painless", the pressure needs to be kept off the trachea. This is well known fact. Let's not try reinventing the wheel here. Need more proof?

https://web.archive.org/web/20211123040828/https://suicide.wiki/w/Hanging
Who are you accusing of reinventing the wheel? Did you even read the link you just posted?? It's about partial suspension hanging, not full. They advise placing the noose near the base of the neck, which is valid only during partial suspension. If this were to be done during full suspension, the noose would slip to the top of the neck anyway (and quite painfully too).

And I quoted you not to get a reaction out of you, but to point out to readers that this has been discussed before in another thread, in case they want to hear your half-assed attempt at explaining what the guy was trying to say about the ring. Also, you still don't sound too convinced of the fact that you can avoid constricting the trachea. You still can't bring concrete proof that you can avoid compressing the trachea during full suspension hanging.

OR WOULD YOU CALL THIS A "BIG MISTAKE" TOO?!
 
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Who are you accusing of reinventing the wheel? Did you even read the link you just posted?? It's about partial suspension hanging, not full. They advise placing the noose near the base of the neck, which is valid only during partial suspension. If this were to be done during full suspension, the noose would slip to the top of the neck anyway (and quite painfully too).

And I quoted you not to get a reaction out of you, but to point out to readers that this has been discussed before in another thread, in case they want to hear your half-assed attempt at explaining what the guy was trying to say about the ring. Also, you still don't sound too convinced of the fact that you can avoid constricting the trachea. You still can't bring concrete proof that you can avoid compressing the trachea during full suspension hanging.

OR WOULD YOU CALL THIS A "BIG MISTAKE" TOO?!
YOU, that's who! You're the one trying to reinvent the wheel. The freaking link you included, which I quoted, has NOTHING to do with partial. From now on if you want to make some convoluted point, leave me the hell out of it. If I remember correctly, and I do, when all this nonsense started, you didn't even realize that the constricting of the trachea was the source of the pain for hanging and something that NEEDS to be avoided. It seemed you were just going to go with whatever you understood correct hanging to be and I wanted to possibly save you from the misery you'd be experiencing by doing it incorrectly. Last time I'll make that mistake. Do it ANY way you wish.
This link here? This link is about full-suspension hanging, not partial.

https://archive.ashspace.org/ash.xanthia.com/suspension.html
And neither is this link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211123040828/https://suicide.wiki/w/Hanging

Think you better read things again.
Directly from the suicide wiki link:

"compressing the trachea (or windpipe)[1|2|3], hurts, causes suffocation, and triggers the CO2 panic response → anatomy of thyroid[1|2|3]"
 
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YOU, that's who! You're the one trying to reinvent the wheel. The freaking link you included, which I quoted, has NOTHING to do with partial. From now on if you want to make some convoluted point, leave me the hell out of it. If I remember correctly, and I do, when all this nonsense started, you didn't even realize that the constricting of the trachea was the source of the pain for hanging and something that NEEDS to be avoided. It seemed you were just going to go with whatever you understood correct hanging to be and I wanted to possibly save you from the misery you'd be experiencing by doing it incorrectly. Last time I'll make that mistake. Do it ANY way you wish.
This link here? This link is about full-suspension hanging, not partial.

https://archive.ashspace.org/ash.xanthia.com/suspension.html
And neither is this link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211123040828/https://suicide.wiki/w/Hanging

Think you better read things again.
Alright dude, I admit misunderstanding your intentions there. I re-read your replies and it seems like you were trying to do what you thought was good. Sorry, ok? I apologize.

However, you never told me what the right way is, in a practical, understandable manner.

What is the right way? Tell me. Without just throwing out some link, tell me in your own words, in a way that me and everyone else can understand. I'm listening.

Also, as a side note, if you truly knew how to hang yourself painlessly (which, in this case, means by not constricting the trachea), am I wrong in thinking that you'd have picked that as your suicide method?

Edit: I've already seen and read through both links in the past. And this link:


... is about partial suspension hanging. Here's the quote that shows it: "4.2 Partial suspension" on the contents list.
 
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do you have a guide on how to use other stuff as ligatures like bedsheets, belts and things that are not a proper rope
 
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do you have a guide on how to use other stuff as ligatures like bedsheets, belts and things that are not a proper rope
I never made a guide on that because a rope is usually the best option. But to answer your question, comparable to a rope in terms of reliability are bedsheets and some Asian clothing pieces such as dupatta, sari and lungi. That is pretty much it, I can't think of any other item that's reliable enough.

By the way, I once saw a picture of a girl that hanged herself with a pair of jeans.
 
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