Fear of dying (SN)

[DeadAgain]

Fear of dying

I think many people feel the same way as I do.
I am not afraid of death, but I am afraid of dying.
There is no reason to ridicule this fear.
If I had access to a gun, I would no longer be here.
But I have to make do with SN and over-the-counter painkillers.
I don't have anything else at my disposal.
What scares me most is the long period of time until death occurs and the
sometimes contradictory statements regarding pain.

She coughs a bit and says fuck 3 times in a low voice. (perhaps theres some pain/ discomfort?) (this could also be the last time she was consious)
eyes are open for a brief second (this could perhaps be a possible small seizure?) she closed her eyes immediately after that though.
Hands on stomach, Groans. load groans sounds like snoring. kinda like chocking

Is she in pain and wanted to tell us about it?

tried to say something, body is convulsing

Is he in pain and wanted to tell us about it?

We don't know and this uncertainty scares me

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Living is difficult - dying is even more difficult.

All life forms on earth are coded to survive in any case.

But actually there's no need to fear death - it's the relief from all suffering and pain we may have to endure in this life. Yet it's so difficult to CTB.

 

[DeadAgain]

But actually there's no need to fear death - it's the relief from all suffering and pain we may have to endure in this life. Yet it's so difficult to CTB.

As I said: I am not afraid of DEATH. I am afraid of DYING

 

[L'absent]

As I said: I am not afraid of DEATH. I am afraid of DYING

So you're not afraid of dying. You are afraid of life, because even the final suffering is LIFE. When there is death there will be no more life and therefore there will be no more pain.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

I am not afraid of death, but I am afraid of dying.

Same.

She coughs a bit and says fuck 3 times in a low voice. (perhaps theres some pain/ discomfort?) (this could also be the last time she was consious)
eyes are open for a brief second (this could perhaps be a possible small seizure?) she closed her eyes immediately after that though.
Hands on stomach, Groans. load groans sounds like snoring. kinda like chocking

I remember that one. If I remember correctly though, the friend that described what was happening, later came back to say that they'd been informed of how death rattles sound & reassessed the peacefulness to much higher than originally thought, that the bits they had concerns about were actually normal for death, not just death from SN.
I may be wrong but that thread has stuck with me. As highly descriptive & powerful & agonising to read but also ultimately reassuring.
I am still scared, but less scared, I guess. I hope.

 

[endofline2010]

I just don't get the appeal of SN when you can just slam some F and be done in 30 seconds instead of 20-30 mins. Even full suspension or drowning is faster.

 

[DeadAgain]

I just don't get the appeal of SN when you can just slam some F and be done in 30 seconds instead of 20-30 mins. Even full suspension or drowning is faster.

What is F?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I just don't get the appeal of SN when you can just slam some F and be done in 30 seconds instead of 20-30 mins. Even full suspension or drowning is faster.

I can tell you, F - and I refer to PURE F - is extremely difficult to be acquired for a majority of people. N would be the way to go but that is also inaccessible for a majority.

 

[zenirsar]

I just don't get the appeal of SN when you can just slam some F and be done in 30 seconds instead of 20-30 mins. Even full suspension or drowning is faster.

But have you considered that these methods can be *extremely* painful? I'd take 15-20 minutes of discomfort than being in unbearable pain for 5 seconds.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

What is F?

Fentanyl

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[endofline2010]

What is F?

Fentanyl

I can tell you, F - and I refer to PURE F - is extremely difficult to be acquired for a majority of people. N would be the way to go but that is also inaccessible for a majority.

Yes, but not that hard to get on the DNMs. Or, just get protonitazene like I'm going to - like $150/g, and 5mg is fatal (IV) if you don't have tolerance. I'm sure you could snort a solid line and just pass out and not wake up.

Heroin is always an option too.

Basically, of every way to die, SN seems like one of the worst. Who wants to die for 20-30 mins. Most likely in agonizing pain. Being burned at the stake would be faster.

 

[DeadAgain]

Ich verstehe einfach nicht den Reiz von SN, wenn man einfach ein bisschen F draufhauen kann und in 30 Sekunden statt in 20-30 Minuten fertig ist. Sogar eine vollständige Suspension oder Ertrinken ist schneller.

F steht mir, wie N, nicht zur Verfügung

 

[endofline2010]

F steht mir, wie N, nicht zur Verfügung

Vielleicht möchten Sie sich die DNMs ansehen. Schreiben Sie mir, wenn Sie Hilfe beim Verbinden benötigen.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Basically, of every way to die, SN seems like one of the worst. Who wants to die for 20-30 mins. Most likely in agonizing pain. Being burned at the stake would be faster.

I fully agree with that. But unless I "trust" a DNM dealer I wouldn't have access to pure F or pure H with guarantee. Those dealers aren't interested in killing their customers - they need recurring customers.

It's a personal preference. I would choose F or H if I knew it was pure, there're also is Thiopental IV - well I could never IV myself - unfortunately.

Most likely I will go with CO bc that is easily accessible and it's not illegal in anyway. But again, we all have our personal preferences. I would like to use N but it's also almost impossible for me to acquire it.

 

[DeadAgain]

Fentanyl

Yes, but not that hard to get on the DNMs. Or, just get protonitazene like I'm going to - like $150/g, and 5mg is fatal (IV) if you don't have tolerance. I'm sure you could snort a solid line and just pass out and not wake up.

Heroin is always an option too.

Basically, of every way to die, SN seems like one of the worst. Who wants to die for 20-30 mins. Most likely in agonizing pain. Being burned at the stake would be faster.

I would also prefer an overdose of opiates. But I don't have a dealer....
However, I doubt that SN is one of the worst ways to die

 

[L'absent]

I just don't get the appeal of SN when you can just slam some F and be done in 30 seconds instead of 20-30 mins. Even full suspension or drowning is faster.

What is it about? What does F that makes you die in 30 seconds mean?

 

[endofline2010]

What is it about? What does F that makes you die in 30 seconds mean?

Sorry, I guess I was off by a couple mins. Looks more like 3-5 mins to die, but loss of consciousness could occur in 1 min. From ChatGPT:
If someone were to inject a multiple times lethal dosage of an opioid (for example, 100mg of fentanyl), how long would it take to die, assuming little to no opioid tolerance?

If someone with little to no opioid tolerance were to inject a dose of fentanyl as high as 100 mg—many times the lethal dose—it could lead to death within minutes. Here's a general timeline of what might happen:

1. Immediate Effects (Seconds): Upon injection, fentanyl would rapidly enter the bloodstream and reach the brain almost instantly. The person would likely feel an overwhelming rush of euphoria followed very quickly by drowsiness or unconsciousness.
2. Severe Respiratory Depression (Within 1-2 Minutes): Fentanyl is extremely potent, and such a high dose would almost immediately cause profound respiratory depression. Breathing would become very slow and shallow, or it could stop altogether within a minute or two.
3. Unconsciousness and Coma (Within 2-3 Minutes): Due to the lack of oxygen reaching the brain, the person would lose consciousness rapidly. A coma could ensue as the brain is deprived of oxygen.
4. Cardiac Arrest and Death (Within 3-5 Minutes): Without oxygen, the heart can go into arrhythmia or stop (cardiac arrest) within a few minutes. Death can occur shortly after if there is no intervention to restore breathing and circulation.

The entire process from injection to death could occur within a range of 3 to 5 minutes. Immediate medical intervention, such as administering naloxone and providing respiratory support (e.g., CPR), would be critical within this short window to prevent death or severe brain damage.

 

[L'absent]

Sorry, I guess I was off by a couple mins. Looks more like 3-5 mins to die, but loss of consciousness could occur in 1 min. From ChatGPT:
If someone were to inject a multiple times lethal dosage of an opioid (for example, 100mg of fentanyl), how long would it take to die, assuming little to no opioid tolerance?

If someone with little to no opioid tolerance were to inject a dose of fentanyl as high as 100 mg—many times the lethal dose—it could lead to death within minutes. Here's a general timeline of what might happen:

1. Immediate Effects (Seconds): Upon injection, fentanyl would rapidly enter the bloodstream and reach the brain almost instantly. The person would likely feel an overwhelming rush of euphoria followed very quickly by drowsiness or unconsciousness.
2. Severe Respiratory Depression (Within 1-2 Minutes): Fentanyl is extremely potent, and such a high dose would almost immediately cause profound respiratory depression. Breathing would become very slow and shallow, or it could stop altogether within a minute or two.
3. Unconsciousness and Coma (Within 2-3 Minutes): Due to the lack of oxygen reaching the brain, the person would lose consciousness rapidly. A coma could ensue as the brain is deprived of oxygen.
4. Cardiac Arrest and Death (Within 3-5 Minutes): Without oxygen, the heart can go into arrhythmia or stop (cardiac arrest) within a few minutes. Death can occur shortly after if there is no intervention to restore breathing and circulation.

The entire process from injection to death could occur within a range of 3 to 5 minutes. Immediate medical intervention, such as administering naloxone and providing respiratory support (e.g., CPR), would be critical within this short window to prevent death or severe brain damage.

Ok, but you may feel short of breath without losing consciousness.

 

[skatergirl]

Fentanyl

Yes, but not that hard to get on the DNMs. Or, just get protonitazene like I'm going to - like $150/g, and 5mg is fatal (IV) if you don't have tolerance. I'm sure you could snort a solid line and just pass out and not wake up.

Heroin is always an option too.

Basically, of every way to die, SN seems like one of the worst. Who wants to die for 20-30 mins. Most likely in agonizing pain. Being burned at the stake would be faster.

A lot of people say sn is comfortable

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I just don't get the appeal of SN when you can just slam some F and be done in 30 seconds instead of 20-30 mins. Even full suspension or drowning is faster.

SN seems to be more guaranteed to work than either of those methods plus the consequences of failing with SN isn't as severe as the consequences of failing with hanging or drowning. I'd drown myself if I could but I'm scared about how it isn't guaranteed and how I could just end up with brain damage and broken limbs. With SN, that fear doesn't need to be there since there mostly isn't any consequences from failing a SN attempt based from what I've seen. If drowning was guaranteed though, I'd definitely have ended myself by now and I wouldn't be here typing this

 

[skatergirl]

SN seems to be more guaranteed to work than either of those methods plus the consequences of failing with SN isn't as severe as the consequences of failing with hanging or drowning. I'd drown myself if I could but I'm scared about how it isn't guaranteed and how I could just end up with brain damage and broken limbs. With SN, that fear doesn't need to be there since there mostly isn't any consequences from failing a SN attempt based from what I've seen. If drowning was guaranteed though, I'd definitely have ended myself by now and I wouldn't be here typing this

What are the failure rates of sn?

 

[skatergirl]

Does anyone know how painful is sn im terrified

I would also prefer an overdose of opiates. But I don't have a dealer....
However, I doubt that SN is one of the worst ways to d

 

[RiverOfLife]

I am afraid of the pain. And I'm afraid of whatever method I choose not working.

 

[whywere]

AS of what I am aware of Carfentanil is the strongest opioid, as it was developed as an animal tranquilizer. It is around 10,000 times stronger than morphine.

Walter

 

[Amarajoy]

Death is generally painful. You get cancer and it eats away at your body for months. You get dementia and lose your mind then your body slowly shuts down. All I'm saying is there are a lot worse and longer ways to go. I understand the fear.

Fentanyl

Yes, but not that hard to get on the DNMs. Or, just get protonitazene like I'm going to - like $150/g, and 5mg is fatal (IV) if you don't have tolerance. I'm sure you could snort a solid line and just pass out and not wake up.

Heroin is always an option too.

Basically, of every way to die, SN seems like one of the worst. Who wants to die for 20-30 mins. Most likely in agonizing pain. Being burned at the stake would be faster.

Are there any resources on how to acquire?