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traingirl

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Been doing research on the gun thread and came up with these. Just wanting to know which one is the most reliable for a person who is new to guns. Don't want to spend a bunch of money on a gun that I can't even use. I may go test out the Mossbergs this evening to see their viability and if I can figure out how to use them. I can get a Mossberg this evening but would have to wait a few weeks for the Smith & Wesson 686 Performance Center Pro but according to my research, it has an incredibly light trigger pull and is good for beginners so maybe it's worth the wait?
 
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Depends, do you want to do a headshot or chest shot, since they're all short they'll all work for either or. It's just a matter of how badly do you want to be disfigured if going for a headshot (if you care about that of course). If you go with a shotgun go with the shockwave since it's easier to handle and maneuver than the maverick.
 
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Depends, do you want to do a headshot or chest shot, since they're all short they'll all work for either or. It's just a matter of how badly do you want to be disfigured if going for a headshot (if you care about that of course). If you go with a shotgun go with the shockwave since it's easier to handle and maneuver than the maverick.
I'd prefer a chest shot but if I get desperate, I'm willing to go for a head shot lmao. I'm 5'7 so I'm just wondering if it'll be awkward going for a chest shot with the shockwave. Is the shockwave pretty easy to get the hang of if you're a beginner?
 
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Shockwave is easy to handle at that height, also contact shotgun blasts to the chest have no documented cases of survival, so if you do a chest shot use the shockwave.
 
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Shockwave is easy to handle at that height, also contact shotgun blasts to the chest have no documented cases of survival, so if you do a chest shot use the shockwave.
Thanks, I'll go check it out at the store later. I was going for chest because I'd heard one of my favorite musicians Mark Linkous shot himself in the chest with a 12 gauge shotgun and was successful. Do I have the right ammo? I saw where 00 buckshot was recommended but I know slugs were also recommended.
 
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Either 00 buckshot or a slug will work the same.
 
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Depends, do you want to do a headshot or chest shot, since they're all short they'll all work for either or. It's just a matter of how badly do you want to be disfigured if going for a headshot (if you care about that of course). If you go with a shotgun go with the shockwave since it's easier to handle and maneuver than the maverick.
Sorry to hijack, but I wanted to ask you a question since I am also considering head vs chest shot & I read another person saying that chest shot requires a shotgun for more accuracy/lethality and it would be more difficult/lower statistics of hitting that area accurately with a handgun. And so I wanted to ask you what your opinion is on head vs chest shot with a .357 revolver ( with longer barrel length)?

Also, I saw that a 15 degree angle through mouth pointing at brain is recommended on one of the gun threads here. Do you know how to measure that to be sure it's at the correct angle?
 
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Sorry to hijack, but I wanted to ask you a question since I am also considering head vs chest shot & I read another person saying that chest shot requires a shotgun for more accuracy/lethality and it would be more difficult/lower statistics of hitting that area accurately with a handgun. And so I wanted to ask you what your opinion is on head vs chest shot with a .357 revolver ( with longer barrel length)?

Also, I saw that a 15 degree angle through mouth pointing at brain is recommended on one of the gun threads here. Do you know how to measure that to be sure it's at the correct angle?
I'm planning above ear, bisecting both brain hemispheres.
 
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I'm planning above ear, bisecting both brain hemispheres.
This is ideal and is also what I'm doing.
Sorry to hijack, but I wanted to ask you a question since I am also considering head vs chest shot & I read another person saying that chest shot requires a shotgun for more accuracy/lethality and it would be more difficult/lower statistics of hitting that area accurately with a handgun. And so I wanted to ask you what your opinion is on head vs chest shot with a .357 revolver ( with longer barrel length)?

Also, I saw that a 15 degree angle through mouth pointing at brain is recommended on one of the gun threads here. Do you know how to measure that to be sure it's at the correct angle?
I saw you replied to my in depth mega thread on firearms so the answer is there. But to answer it here, the reason chest shots with shotguns are better is because there's zero chance of survival if using buckshot or slugs, there is no documented case of anyone ever surviving a contact shotgun blast to the chest with those loads. There might be pain for a few seconds but that's it. If you were to use a 357 magnum I'd do a headshot via the side of the head directly above the ear. I'm doing a headshot via the side of the head directly above the ear with a 9mm carbine rifle. More info here. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-properly-ctb-with-firearms-informative.215699/
 
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looking4partner

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I'm planning above ear, bisecting both brain hemispheres.
I thought I saw in the firearms thread that people said to never ever do an external headshot and that through the mouth far back and aimed at brainstem is the only reliable way?

Especially with smaller ammo.

I am sure I have seen this repeated by multiple people whenever an external headshot plan is mentioned.

It is talked about in the main firearms thread on SS:

This is ideal and is also what I'm doing.

I saw you replied to my in depth mega thread on firearms so the answer is there. But to answer it here, the reason chest shots with shotguns are better is because there's zero chance of survival if using buckshot or slugs, there is no documented case of anyone ever surviving a contact shotgun blast to the chest with those loads. There might be pain for a few seconds but that's it. If you were to use a 357 magnum I'd do a headshot via the side of the head directly above the ear. I'm doing a headshot via the side of the head directly above the ear with a 9mm carbine rifle. More info here. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-properly-ctb-with-firearms-informative.215699/
I thought I saw in the firearms thread that people said to never ever do an external headshot and that through the mouth far back and aimed at beainstem is the only reliable way?

Especially with smaller ammo

Also, can you link the page from the in depth mega thread on firearms where you replied to me here? I have really bad memory problems & neurological symptoms that make finding information & reading extremely difficult.

It is talked about in the main firearms thread on SS:
 
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