Discussion Forced mental health treatment is so goddamn dehumanizing.

[NotSalmon]

I do not understand. They do not understand. If somebody wants treatment then that is their choice, but to force it onto somebody feels incredibly disgusting, that it seems that you see that person as a mere object to stay "healthy" for your own amusement. I am still traumatized from what happened in the past and thinking about it only makes me want to die even more. I am so incredibly terrified of it happening again. It ruins a person's trust, forces them to try to conform to an awful reality. Maybe some may need it, but for others it just scars them, they are even sometimes treated like lab rats or infantilized to a disgusting degree or deprived of their comforts, made to do things they do not want to do and studied like they are not just another human.

I will say that I was not myself when it happened, that maybe I needed a grasp of reality, but I still loathe what hells they put me through. I even missed my birthday because of it, which I shouldn't care much about, I hate birthdays now, but it fucking hurts to think about the lack of consideration on my family's end. Too fucking lazy to try to figure out what was wrong with me on their own so they send me off to the "professionals" to figure it out.

Making a mentally ill person do what they do not wish to do at the moment will only make them more volatile. I refuse to change my stance on this. Just my humble (yet violent) opinion.

And they think it was a "miracle" for me.

 

[Life'sA6itch]

I do not understand. They do not understand. If somebody wants treatment then that is their choice, but to force it onto somebody feels incredibly disgusting, that it seems that you see that person as a mere object to stay "healthy" for your own amusement. I am still traumatized from what happened in the past and thinking about it only makes me want to die even more. I am so incredibly terrified of it happening again. It ruins a person's trust, forces them to try to conform to an awful reality. Maybe some may need it, but for others it just scars them, they are even sometimes treated like lab rats or infantilized to a disgusting degree or deprived of their comforts, made to do things they do not want to do and studied like they are not just another human.

Making a mentally ill person do what they do not wish to do at the moment will only make them more volatile. I refuse to change my stance on this. Just my humble (yet violent) opinion.

And they think it was a "miracle" for me.

I love this response because I agree 100%

 

[FuneralCry]

That just sounds so horrible to me, it's so cruel how there is all this terrible suffering in existing, there's so much cruelty in how many humans trap others in this existence and force them to suffer way more extremely.

 

[Cyagangy]

I agree with this heavy! Who is someone else to deem one unhealthy or healthy? Mad or not mad? If people want help they will go and seek it. Pro-lifers always have that thinking but if an 18-year-old wants to die they deserve the choice because its there body.

 

[Hollowman]

https://psychiatrized.org/donweitz/psychiatryAsSocialControl.pdf

 

[b1241]

You're absolutely right, and it's also crazy given that there are plenty of people who want treatment who can't access it. I think many of us would be more receptive to a different kind of care that wasn't like prison (or the "have you tried having a cup of tea?" garbage you get from crisis services), but the way it exists now is just more unhelpful than anything.

 

[sadidiot0328]

I agree. Being forcibly 5150'd and having the nurses count the cuts on my legs and arms was humiliating and made me afraid of reaching out for help ever again.

 

[needthebus]

they don't care about dignity

they want to follow rules to get paid

i don't wish to ever get treatment again after how they treated me

id be less likely to ctb if i were in treatment that didn't feel coercive, constantly backed by the shadows of violence and degradation should I say the wrong thing, but alas such treatment does not exist in my country

are there any countries in which forced care for being suicidal is illegal? i would possibly immigrate there

 

[Ashu]

https://psychiatrized.org/donweitz/psychiatryAsSocialControl.pdf

Parenthetically, I met Don Weitz a few times when I still lived in Toronto.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I agree so much. I'm against coercive suicide prevention as it's just so cruel. I honestly hope that there comes a time where humans in the future look back at how people treat those who are suicidal and think "fuck, that was absolutely barbaric and stupid of us" but unfortunately I can't see how this would ever happen due to how humans are full of ego and delusions

 

[NeverHis]

Indeed. That is what scares me off from trying something that might fail again. Because if I'm found, the consequences are way worse than just continuing living, even with possible damage.
Psych units are not a good place. I'm sure there's variations worldwide, but even in the socalled best countries, there are issues.