General Questions + Need Opinions On My Hanging Plan

[AgonizedWaterfall%$]

Hi all, first time poster after viewing for a couple months so apologies if anythings repetitive as I don't have the search function yet.

Firstly I want to thank this site and members as it's been comforting hearing many stories from people who feel similarly and having a place to discuss without judgement. With all the knowledge I've gained here and elsewhere, I still have a few questions and am interested in opinions. As per the rules of this site - I am in charge of my decisions, opinions will not be taken as encouragement. I feel like my SI will be too strong anyways when the time comes. I read a post where someone said that once they have everything lined up and are certain it will work, it reduces the anxiety because they can do it whenever and that's the place I'm at right now hence these questions just for peace of mind.

I've chosen hanging as my method simply for the reason of convenience. Like many I live where SN and guns are hard to come by, OD's rarely work and I wouldn't be able to get anything anyways, I don't have the knowledge or equipment for gasses, CO poisoning in the garage isn't certain to work in my scenario, anything else seems impossible.

I've read megathreads and many stories on hanging, I think I'm knowledgeable enough on the basic technical aspects/risks to do it right, so here's my questions that I haven't come across yet:

-The rope I have is 3/8" braided nylon. Is this too thick/thin? What are the pros/cons of a rope too thick/thin? I believe it's 50 feet, is there a way to tie either the anchor or noose end with the excess or would I have to cut it to length.

-I would like to go in my home but there are no anchor points. I live near many forests but don't trust that I won't pick the wrong tree plus am unsure of the privacy. The only place I can think of with good anchor points is at my workplace where I can get in after hours. My concerns are that I don't want to traumatize coworkers when found. I planned on putting signs on doors that say "deceased inside, do not enter, call emergency services" but the problem is they would need employee keys to gain access to the couple options of rooms I'm thinking of. I'm also worried that someone will see the sign before enough time has passed, as well as sometimes there's a night cleaning crew - but I'm sure there's one room they never enter. My best options are structural ceiling beams or a welded ladder to a wall, pros/cons to either?

-Are there pros/cons if the anchor point isn't too high up but just enough to be off the ground? More risks or same situation no matter how far apart the anchor and noose is?

-What are things you should do in daily life leading up to it to make the process easier for family. I plan on leaving notes to eliminate as much grief as possible, send money to some friends and leave the rest to family and tell them to use it for my funeral, give instructions on where to give possessions. I plan on leaving passwords and other info they might need but I feel like I'm missing some big things when it comes to this.

-My big question is making sure someone gets to me after the right amount of time so my family has my body and I'm not MIA for long. I can't call emergency services on my own beforehand for timing, my only idea is scheduling a text to a friend hours after the fact telling them to call, I just don't want to traumatize a friend like that. Other option is a coworker seeing the signs on the door the next day, same concern.

Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for the piece of mind.

 

[cinnamonsticks]

I think maybe you can schedule an e-mail to the police/emergency services. Good luck on whatever you decide!

 

[JesiBel]

The thickness of the rope is fine, between 10 and 14 mm are the most used. Thinner ropes are not recommended as they have less area to apply pressure and would penetrate too deeply into the neck, making the experience somewhat less comfortable.

Always test your rope and anchor point (when you find one), that both are strong and sturdy enough to support your entire weight.

You can test everything, tying the rope to your anchor point and hanging with both hands and applying all your weight. You can swing a little from side to side simulating the convulsion/spasm phase.

As for choosing a place, remember to always be alone without anyone interrupting you.

In the work place you'll need to consider if they have surveillance cameras, security guards, or people working all shifts.
If only you and no one else have a key to the room you choose, that would be best. As long as you're completely alone, with no one lurking around, because if they hear suspicious noises, you'd be in trouble.

Between structural ceiling beams or a welded ladder to a wall..
If they're tall enough to let you suspended off the ground, they'll be fine. Always remember to test everything, as I wrote above. You have to be sure that everything is strong and sturdy, that nothing will break.
As a first option I would choose the ceiling beams, since they are part of the structure of the building.

In the forest, you'll need to consider whether it's crowded or not, and at what times. Or if it's frequented for sports or other activities where people gather. You'll need to make a few visits to explore the area.

In Full Suspension as long as you don't touch the ground with your body it will be fine. But remember that: the rope may stretch a little when you apply your full weight, so you'll need to take that into account.

As for the distance between the ligature (noose) and your anchor point, it will depend on the space available. It is important that you can be comfortable and able to maneuver easily to do the procedure well.

For example, if you don't have too much space (the place is not that high), the ligature and anchor point will be closer together.

If the anchor point is too high, the ligature will be further away from it.
(This would be my case, for example: my anchor point is too high for me, and I'll have to tie the rope to the anchor point with the help of a ladder first. Then I'll move to a chair to tie the ligature more comfortably and place it correctly on the neck and then take "the step into the void".)

Maybe to avoid traumatizing the person who finds you, it would be good if you could cover your face with something.

 

[AgonizedWaterfall%$]

Thanks, I'll look into this. My main worry is that my attempt doesn't work and then I can't unschedule the text, weather that be to emergency services or a friend.

I think maybe you can schedule an e-mail to the police/emergency services. Good luck on whatever you decide!

How do I take into account the rope stretching/reduced working load limit as I know this gets reduced with knots. Not sure I can get a ladder to the ceiling beam but isn't there a knot you can use for out of reach places I read somewhere?

The thickness of the rope is fine, between 10 and 14 mm are the most used. Thinner ropes are not recommended as they have less area to apply pressure and would penetrate too deeply into the neck, making the experience somewhat less comfortable.

Always test your rope and anchor point (when you find one), that both are strong and sturdy enough to support your entire weight.

You can test everything, tying the rope to your anchor point and hanging with both hands and applying all your weight. You can swing a little from side to side simulating the convulsion/spasm phase.

As for choosing a place, remember to always be alone without anyone interrupting you.

In the work place you'll need to consider if they have surveillance cameras, security guards, or people working all shifts.
If only you and no one else have a key to the room you choose, that would be best. As long as you're completely alone, with no one lurking around, because if they hear suspicious noises, you'd be in trouble.

Between structural ceiling beams or a welded ladder to a wall..
If they're tall enough to let you suspended off the ground, they'll be fine. Always remember to test everything, as I wrote above. You have to be sure that everything is strong and sturdy, that nothing will break.
As a first option I would choose the ceiling beams, since they are part of the structure of the building.

In the forest, you'll need to consider whether it's crowded or not, and at what times. Or if it's frequented for sports or other activities where people gather. You'll need to make a few visits to explore the area.

In Full Suspension as long as you don't touch the ground with your body it will be fine. But remember that: the rope may stretch a little when you apply your full weight, so you'll need to take that into account.

As for the distance between the ligature (noose) and your anchor point, it will depend on the space available. It is important that you can be comfortable and able to maneuver easily to do the procedure well.

For example, if you don't have too much space (the place is not that high), the ligature and anchor point will be closer together.

If the anchor point is too high, the ligature will be further away from it.
(This would be my case, for example: my anchor point is too high for me, and I'll have to tie the rope to the anchor point with the help of a ladder first. Then I'll move to a chair to tie the ligature more comfortably and place it correctly on the neck and then take "the step into the void".)

Maybe to avoid traumatizing the person who finds you, it would be good if you could cover your face with something.

 

[Realgar]

Considering Partial: Does it make sense to practice with slip knot then use a noose knot when it is finally time? Can I use slip knot for the final act or it too weak of a knot?

 

[AgonizedWaterfall%$]

Considering Partial: Does it make sense to practice with slip knot then use a noose knot when it is finally time? Can I use slip knot for the final act or it too weak of a knot?

I'm considering full but have read lots on partial. I would personally assume you'd want to practice with your exact setup? Can't remember the exact knot for the ligature end but there's a megathread here somewhere with how to videos.