Gun megathread inactivity?

[JustHere1]

I posted a series of questions regarding my upcoming CTB in the gun megathread, but it's been quite a while now and it's been fairly inactive. I wanted verification for my method and suggestions if any changes would be necessary. I read through the entire thread but didn't see anything about Jericho handguns or their usability and success likelihood. More their strength compared to other well recommended handguns? If anyone would be willing to respond I would appreciate it greatly! :)

 

[casual_existence]

Pretty much any handgun has a low chance of success though it's not impossible. Has to be aimed correctly. A shotgun is better especially the tight cone one or one big slug since it has a better chance of severing the base of the brain where it meets the spinal cord tricky setup though. These are my suspicions based on videos I've seen of guns. Personally I wouldn't use a gun but it is one of the best methods when it works.

 

[L'absent]

Statistics show a 90% success rate with a single shot to the head. However, these statistics include cases of people who shot themselves in the chin, from the side, or who used very small calibers, as well as those who had guns that jammed so the shot didn't even go off. Despite this, the firearm remains the suicide method with the highest success rate among those available. It is important to note that the lethality of firearms varies significantly: some rifles can have a destructive and deadly power approaching 99%, in some cases almost 100%. On the contrary, there are firearms whose lethality does not exceed 60% and others which fall below 30%. Firearms pose an extremely high risk to human life, often being capable of causing instant death damage with a single shot. In summary, although there are significant variations in the effectiveness of different weapons, statistics confirm that firearms represent a lethal and devastating threat, with a success rate that, in many circumstances, approaches total.

 

[JustHere1]

Thanks for your info! I've read this before though - I do have specific questions and those are on the mega thread, I'm just looking for a reply there with the info I'm missing.

 

[lionetta12]

I posted a series of questions regarding my upcoming CTB in the gun megathread, but it's been quite a while now and it's been fairly inactive. I wanted verification for my method and suggestions if any changes would be necessary. I read through the entire thread but didn't see anything about Jericho handguns or their usability and success likelihood. More their strength compared to other well recommended handguns? If anyone would be willing to respond I would appreciate it greatly! :)

I assume that a lot of the people from that megathread who were going to use firearm as their method and/or had extensive knowledge about firearms, probably CTB since they haven't been around in a while.

 

[JustHere1]

I assume that a lot of the people from that megathread who were going to use firearm as their method and/or had extensive knowledge about firearms, probably CTB since they haven't been around in a while.

I figured that was the case and I hope they are well wherever they have gone :)

Hopefully I can get some answers on the type of firearm I have because I really want to get going soon, with a little more confidence and direction.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

in this video a guy kills himself with a very tiny baby gun and imo aims a little high for the brain stem . so a rifle or shotgun won't fail imo.

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/126630/guy-killed-himself-with-a-tiny

i've seen countless shootings and suicides there and the ones i saw all died many heads completely exploded with shotguns and rifles.

that one and the shootings ive seen they went lights out instantly unconscious so no pain when shot in the head. now this is shooting the head not flinching.

the barrel of that gun is very short. the longer the barrel the higher the velocity because the gun powder burns longer. a bullet travelllng at 1 kilometer per second imo nothing can live.

 

[JustHere1]

in this video a guy kills himself with a very tiny baby gun and imo aims a little high for the brain stem . so a rifle or shotgun won't fail imo.

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/suicide/post/126630/guy-killed-himself-with-a-tiny

i've seen countless shootings and suicides there and the ones i saw all die many heads completely exploded with shotguns and rifles.

that one and the shootings ive seen they went lights out instantly unconscious so no pain when shot in the head. now this is shooting the head not flinching.

Thank you!! I am curious about the method he used but I am not willing to watch videos because I am very sensitive to violence. I'm happy he was able to go quickly from what I understand though! It does alleviate my concern a little. Do you know what bullets or type of gun he used?

 

[Amarajoy]

Pretty much any handgun has a low chance of success though it's not impossible. Has to be aimed correctly. A shotgun is better especially the tight cone one or one big slug since it has a better chance of severing the base of the brain where it meets the spinal cord tricky setup though. These are my suspicions based on videos I've seen of guns. Personally I wouldn't use a gun but it is one of the best methods when it works.

Why wouldn't you use a gun?

 

[JustHere1]

Why wouldn't you use a gun?

It seems like an obvious and instant death, but the loudness is one of the biggest drawbacks. Being found and saved with a severe brain injury could incapacitate you for an extensive period of time.

Some folks want to be courteous to those who find them, some think it too violent or gory for even their stomach to handle.

Some fear guns and the significance of holding such a weapon can bring hesitance.

Flinch is a concern (not recoil, that happens after the bullet leaves the gun)

Some folks are underaged, have background check concerns, or are too anxious to speak to a gun store associate and feel their lack of knowledge would be a tip off that something was off about the purchase.

The concern for those who are choosing or considering this method are also extensive - deciding on gun, bullet, location, and angle. It's a lot of discussion and I encourage anyone considering this method to read the entirety of the Gun CTB megathread.

 

[zel]

I posted a series of questions regarding my upcoming CTB in the gun megathread, but it's been quite a while now and it's been fairly inactive. I wanted verification for my method and suggestions if any changes would be necessary. I read through the entire thread but didn't see anything about Jericho handguns or their usability and success likelihood. More their strength compared to other well recommended handguns? If anyone would be willing to respond I would appreciate it greatly! :)

Jericho handguns would absolutely work just fine, as I believe they all will use 9mm and up (though I'm sure you have already read in the firearm megathread about how a larger caliber doesn't necessarily translate to higher lethality, past a certain point).

This caliber and particular model will certainly be more than enough for the job and the truth about firearms is, contrary to the individual who mistakenly claimed that some firearms are as low as 30% effective, that what matters most is your shot placement. As long as you're going FMJ, using something like 9mm, and aim *slightly* upwards in the direction of your soft palate (look at diagrams for medulla oblongata location) you will die with 99.99% certainty. Even if you miss, you'll fatally damage your cervical spine or bleed out.

I hope that whatever pain afflicts you will resolve itself. Take care, friend.

Pretty much any handgun has a low chance of success though it's not impossible.

Sorry, but what? I understand that your effectiveness will go down if you aim improperly (temple, directly upward at the chin - which might just scrape the anterior frontal lobe, if the trajectory isn't affected by the bones in the face), and will also go down with particular calibers, exit velocities, and a bunch of other factors. But I can't believe that using "any handgun" has a low chance. You said that you gathered this from watching videos of guns. How many videos have you seen where someone shoots themselves in the head with a shotgun and survives? I mean, I know it's happened, but I doubt it's very likely.

 

[death_bed221]

I dont want my mom to find my head half blown off. That shit sounds insane. Guns are a bad method imo

 

[Amarajoy]

It seems like an obvious and instant death, but the loudness is one of the biggest drawbacks. Being found and saved with a severe brain injury could incapacitate you for an extensive period of time.

Some folks want to be courteous to those who find them, some think it too violent or gory for even their stomach to handle.

Some fear guns and the significance of holding such a weapon can bring hesitance.

Flinch is a concern (not recoil, that happens after the bullet leaves the gun)

Some folks are underaged, have background check concerns, or are too anxious to speak to a gun store associate and feel their lack of knowledge would be a tip off that something was off about the purchase.

The concern for those who are choosing or considering this method are also extensive - deciding on gun, bullet, location, and angle. It's a lot of discussion and I encourage anyone considering this method to read the entirety of the Gun CTB megathread.

Those are mostly the concerns I've had also. I'm not concerned about the loudness because I don't think I'll be conscious for it. The bullet will hit too quickly for me to hear but I am going to research this now that you mention it.

All the gun ctb look peaceful to me. Just a quick pull of the trigger and off you go. I'm not concerned with how I look afterwards. As far as whoever finds me I don't know if it's anymore traumatic. Anytime I've heard ctb discussed the person is traumatized by the ctb regard and don't really mention the method. I think it appears gruesome either way. Many don't have much exposure to death in general so finding your cyanotic loved one surrounded by vomit and a bottle of poison might be as traumatic as finding your loved one deceased from a gunshot. I'm not saying one way or the other I just know whatever method gets chosen it is definitely going to harm and traumatize people. That is inescapable. I think they are more likely to discuss how your ctb effected them as far as you being gone than the method.

I wonder how truly often it happens that a head shot results in failure. I don't mean chin shot but direct to head or straight in mouth. I'll have read us if you put it under your chin you will just blow your face off. I know there must be cases of people surviving. So yeah it's definitely a concern. None of this is easy.

 

[L'absent]

Statistics do not speak of precise weapons with precise angles and precise targets. Statistics also consider a glancing blow that did not even enter the head, or a bullet lodged in the cheekbone, or exiting the cheek, to be a failure. They don't even take caliber into consideration and add 3D unreliable guns to the stats. Despite this we estimate well over 90% mortality even considering all this statistical imprecision.

 

[itriedinthislife2]

Pretty much any handgun has a low chance of success though it's not impossible. Has to be aimed correctly. A shotgun is better especially the tight cone one or one big slug since it has a better chance of severing the base of the brain where it meets the spinal cord tricky setup though. These are my suspicions based on videos I've seen of guns. Personally I wouldn't use a gun but it is one of the best methods when it works.

any handgun has a low chance of success? to the head? are u out of your mind lol

Statistics show a 90% success rate with a single shot to the head. However, these statistics include cases of people who shot themselves in the chin, from the side, or who used very small calibers, as well as those who had guns that jammed so the shot didn't even go off. Despite this, the firearm remains the suicide method with the highest success rate among those available. It is important to note that the lethality of firearms varies significantly: some rifles can have a destructive and deadly power approaching 99%, in some cases almost 100%. On the contrary, there are firearms whose lethality does not exceed 60% and others which fall below 30%. Firearms pose an extremely high risk to human life, often being capable of causing instant death damage with a single shot. In summary, although there are significant variations in the effectiveness of different weapons, statistics confirm that firearms represent a lethal and devastating threat, with a success rate that, in many circumstances, approaches total.

voila. no idea what the guy up top is saying? " a handgun is not lethal" lol....

Statistics do not speak of precise weapons with precise angles and precise targets. Statistics also consider a glancing blow that did not even enter the head, or a bullet lodged in the cheekbone, or exiting the cheek, to be a failure. They don't even take caliber into consideration and add 3D unreliable guns to the stats. Despite this we estimate well over 90% mortality even considering all this statistical imprecision.

dont let these people circle jerk you my brother in arms. none of them would surive a 9mm fmj or hollow tip to the side of the head... i dont know why people think its not extremely fatal almost anywhere to the head really and someone mentioned to the jaw... really?.. just really? head only

 

[zengiraffe]

I tried my best to consistently answer questions in the gun megathread but it got to be too tiring to keep up with. It's not even answering the questions that's the issue, it's correcting people who give bad answers beforehand that's exhausting. I don't understand how people even get half of these nonsensical ideas into their heads in the first place.

To answer your questions, yes any 9mm handgun with any 9mm ammo will do the job if you have good aim and placement. With perfect aim and placement you could even get the job done with a 22lr handgun (a much smaller caliber than 9mm). If you're worried that your aim or placement may not be good enough, you can increase your margin of error by using hollow point bullets or higher caliber bullets or higher velocity bullets. A hollow point 9mm round is better than an FMJ (full metal jacket) 9mm round, because it will expand after entry and cause considerably more soft tissue damage. A 10mm round is better than a 9mm round because it's higher caliber, and higher caliber bullets have larger diameters and leave larger holes. A 44 magnum round is better than a 10mm round because although they have the same caliber, the 44 magnum has higher velocity, and higher velocity bullets produce wider and larger wound channels.

The reason why shotguns are so successful is because shotgun slugs are .729 caliber, and the highest you can get for handguns is .50 caliber. 9mm is .380 caliber. The reason why rifles are so successful is because they shoot very high velocity rounds, like up to 4400 fps (feet per second). The highest velocity handgun you can get will probably go up to 2400 fps. A typical 9mm handgun will shoot 9mm rounds around 1100 fps.

But to reiterate, what you currently have is totally sufficient, but if you're at all worried you can move to a higher caliber or higher velocity firearm.