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InsidiousDormouse

Member
Jul 3, 2018
79
Here you can get hold of helium pretty easily, I have one tank I bought a couple of months ago. I must have researched it for many days before buying it, and my research told me that if no other gasses, such as oxygen, are listed on the tank, which they must be by law, then they're not in there. Is this the case?. If so, this one is approx 14 cubic feet, would I need another one to make it work?. I have the plastic tubing, told S/O it was for making jewellery lol. Well some bits of it are, as back before my hands stopped working I was very creative.

I cannot really order large items off the internet, so buying nitrogen would be really difficult. He thinks you can get high on everything too, so if he saw it, this would be his first thought, as unlike helium, which I can say I just want to mess around blowing up balloons, because why not? lol, I have no real purpose for nitrogen.

It's also expensive, and he is very suspicious of large sums of money going out of my bank account. This is because, again, he is paranoid that I am buying drugs off the internet. I have to open all parcels in front of him as well.

He never dealt with it, my addictions that is, and it can be like a police state in this house sometimes.

I wish I was back on drugs, if I got my hands on some more benzos and relieved the symptoms that have all led to this point, maybe I would not be talking about CTB so much.

So many choices taken away from me, so many rights turned into wrongs, I do not want to fuck this up too. I want a clean, well planned exit and at the moment, inert gas is the only feesable method for me. My preferred method would be OD on something like Fentanyl and just go to sleep, but I vowed that drugs have already killed me, and I don't want others carrying this stigma too. If my exit looks well planned, and I explain it well, then it should go some way to avoiding any more 'druggie stigma'.

So which one wins out? Nitrogen or Helium? I know you can get Nitrogen from brewing supply places sometimes, but I have no transport and not a lot of money. Helium is also cheaper and easier for me to get as I can get it from local supermarkets etc.

Also if I am making an exit bag, which bags are best to use? I read that an oven roasting bag is best but I can't find one big enough without buying it online and raising suspicions.

My other huge issue is not wanting to do it in the house, I owe him this. If he decides he cannot bear living here anymore once I am gone, he may want to sell the shitty place and knowing I died in one of the rooms will make that really, really hard.

If I went out from OD, I found a little place I could do it where I would not be found for a while. I'm going to have to risk trying to CTB right under his nose, probably while he is still in bed, but I was going to wait until he has one of his many hospital appointments and do it then.

Oh fuck, how do you look someone you love in the eye knowing it will be the last time you see them, ever?

I don't know how I am going to handle some aspects of this, the thought of him finding me is a thought I am trying to keep out of my mind as best as possible.

Thanks for any advice,

ID x
 
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FTL.Wanderer

Enlightened
May 31, 2018
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Oh fuck, how do you look someone you love in the eye knowing it will be the last time you see them, ever? ... I don't know how I am going to handle some aspects of this, the thought of him finding me is a thought I am trying to keep out of my mind as best as possible.ID x

You have so much on your plate. Sounds nerve-wracking. :( Whatever you decide, I hope it's a lot more peaceful than you expect.
 
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Eternal

New Member
Aug 6, 2018
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Hello, Im just going to jump in on this thread if that is ok. I just ordered some nitrogen today and will get the other bits and bobs over the next few days.

I got 1.8 cubic metres. Does anyone know is this is enough. Apparently it is 100% pure compressed nitrogen.

Would love hear from anyone who has failed using this method or any advice from people who are well researched. I am facing some health conditions that make the reading about it quite difficult and I want to get in before it gets any worse.

Many Thanks
 
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Justanotherconsumer

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Jul 9, 2018
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Some of the balloon gas is mixed with compressed air, euthanasia by helium was highly publicized and as a result they started mixing it with air to prevent death. Balloon time ect.
 
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Ssname

Experienced
Jun 30, 2018
268
Helium for baloons only has to be lighter than air but industrial nitrogen needs to be pure or close to it. I wouldn't trust helium from a toy or party shop but "pure helium" from a specialist gas supplier I personally would probably belive to be genuine. Likewise nitrogen
 
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azeton

Student
Jun 2, 2018
100
I got 1.8 cubic metres. Does anyone know is this is enough. Apparently it is 100% pure compressed nitrogen.
1.8 m³ = 1800 liters. 1800 liters / 15 LPM = 120 minutes = 2 hours.
 
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InsidiousDormouse

Member
Jul 3, 2018
79
How do you get hold of Nitrogen? I can't order it online as I cannot explain to my husband why I need it, he will think you can get high on it, NO joke. I am researching methods properly and this seems viable but very difficult. I don't want to jump because I think someone would stop me, I don't want to OD because everyone will think I 'relapsed' and if I fail, it won't be treated as an attempt to die it will be treated as a 'relapse' and I will have to go through all that shit again.

Why is it so hard to leave this life when it is so easy to either responsibly, or more often than not, irresponsibly, create a life?

I really want this to be over, and thinking about the end gives me this weird feeling that trumps all the highs I have ever felt.

Does Nitrogen react in the body exactly the same as Helium or does it do other things or cause other things, is the outcome reliable?.

Also WHERE the heck to carry this method out? Husband is at home all the time now, I don't have much time in which to do this. My only hope is to sneak out of bed in the dead of the night to do it. I don't want him to find me though, if I had a better way, I know somewhere I can go that's secluded and nobody would find me for a while.

Again, why is this so hard?
 
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PatKat

Meh
Aug 9, 2018
1,027
How do you get hold of Nitrogen? I can't order it online as I cannot explain to my husband why I need it, he will think you can get high on it, NO joke. I am researching methods properly and this seems viable but very difficult. I don't want to jump because I think someone would stop me, I don't want to OD because everyone will think I 'relapsed' and if I fail, it won't be treated as an attempt to die it will be treated as a 'relapse' and I will have to go through all that shit again.

Why is it so hard to leave this life when it is so easy to either responsibly, or more often than not, irresponsibly, create a life?

I really want this to be over, and thinking about the end gives me this weird feeling that trumps all the highs I have ever felt.

Does Nitrogen react in the body exactly the same as Helium or does it do other things or cause other things, is the outcome reliable?.

Also WHERE the heck to carry this method out? Husband is at home all the time now, I don't have much time in which to do this. My only hope is to sneak out of bed in the dead of the night to do it. I don't want him to find me though, if I had a better way, I know somewhere I can go that's secluded and nobody would find me for a while.

Again, why is this so hard?
I know I use to play paintball and had Nitrogen in my tank. Try a paintball supply store get a tank and fill a bag.
 
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Eternal

New Member
Aug 6, 2018
4
I just watched doing it with Betty does anyone know what the 2000 kpa means? The tank I ordered is 20,000 kpa and I was just wondering if it makes a difference. I am starting to panic as this seems more complicated than I expected.
 
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azeton

Student
Jun 2, 2018
100
I just watched doing it with Betty does anyone know what the 2000 kpa means? The tank I ordered is 20,000 kpa and I was just wondering if it makes a difference. I am starting to panic as this seems more complicated than I expected.
20,000 kpa (kilopascal) = 20 mpa (megapascal) = ~ 197-200 atmospheres.
Tank or cylinder of 10 liters under pressure of 200 atmospheres = 2000 liters of gas.
 
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