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Helpme91

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I've never done heroin before but want to od on it. Why isn't this a more popular method?
 
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Because u can't determien the dosage u need to ctb. Also if u fuck up u will end up a vegetable. That is certainly not what you want at all. It is an unsafe method to ctb, it really is.
 
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I've been thinking about this method. I don't think it turns you into a vegetable if you don't die. Many people are saved with Narcan here in my city and aren't vegetables. It's supposed to be a very peaceful method. It's easier to use Fentanyl because it takes less of it to CTB. The problem with SN is that you need a few anti-emitics that are hard to get. Opioid overdose is a very peaceful way to CTB. I have some SN here, but I didn't realized how hard it is to get the anti-emitics necessary to CTB with it.
 
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It's not a terrible way to ctb. You can easily take enough to do the job as what's termed 'opioid ingnorant'. That's to say first time user. The problem comes with being found and bought back before passing. As noted by others there is significant risk of brain damage that will leave you in need of full time care and with no ability to do anything but sit and exist. You think life is bad now, just wait till you can't do anything about it. It can akways be worse. The big peoblem is that opiates are commonly abused drugs so every medical facility and ambulance carries the antidote which can pull you around from the brink of death. They even give it to addicts to carry judt in case a friend goes over accidentally. So, if you choose this method the requirement would be to find a source of the drug that is not tainted and weak as a result. Over do the dose. Use it intravenously and be certain nobody will find you for a good 24hrs.

RE- being left a vegetable - it can and does definitely happen. Just search it and you'll see many accounts. If you read about how and ehy it left them that way it will be because they weren't bought around with narcan right awaym if they were foind and treated hours later then brain damage is near enough certain. Some have recovered from being totally paralyzed and unable to talk but it's rare AF. You are taking a significant risk of being left vegetative if found. I don't believe all the people shitting on it are fully aware of the details surrounding this. I mean hanging has the same risks and all methods come with risks. It's amongst the most peaceful ways to pass IMHO.
 
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Is it really that hard to OD and die on heroin? I always assumed it was easy.
 
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Is it really that hard to OD and die on heroin? I always assumed it was easy.
It really is. It'd be different if the purity was known and more studies on this would've been done. But rn it is too unsafe to use
 
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Hey, @Tomino'sNightengale, you might want to edit out the part of your post above where you name the city you're in. Posters can be (and have been) doxxed, threatened, prosecuted, and convicted of serious crimes because someone sifted through their posts for "breadcrumbs" of information, and followed the trail all the way to their front door.

Edit (on topic for once, lol): I've always wanted heroin/opioids to be a viable method for me. Imagine dying and having it feel kind of great! There's another thread around here where someone who claimed a lot of experience with heroin gave a lengthy (and disgusting) description of what death from a heroin OD would be like. I actually don't think it sounded much worse than death by any other poisoning method, and far better than some. But it didn't sound like the "beautiful death" I and others might have been imagining, and that was probably the point. Anyway, I'm not part of the hard-core drug use world, and wouldn't know where to find heroin or anything else.
 
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Someone who has never used, and has no contacts, is going to struggle with getting heroin. It will almost certainly be cut with fent, in terms of ctb, this isn't a necessarily negative thing, just makes it almost impossible to accurately dose. You can always just take an absurd amount, and this will almost certainly do the trick, assuming you aren't found. If you get something that's heavily stepped on, you may think you're taking enough to drift away, but you'll take just enough to cause brain damage and then wake up.
 
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Hey, @Tomino'sNightengale, you might want to edit out the part of your post above where you name the city you're in. Posters can be (and have been) doxxed, threatened, prosecuted, and convicted of serious crimes because someone sifted through their posts for "breadcrumbs" of information, and followed the trail all the way to their front door.

Edit (on topic for once, lol): I've always wanted heroin/opioids to be a viable method for me. Imagine dying and having it feel kind of great! There's another thread around here where someone who claimed a lot of experience with heroin gave a lengthy (and disgusting) description of what death from a heroin OD would be like. I actually don't think it sounded much worse than death by any other poisoning method, and far better than some. But it didn't sound like the "beautiful death" I and others might have been imagining, and that was probably the point. Anyway, I'm not part of the hard-core drug use world, and wouldn't know where to find heroin or anything else.
I changed it.
Where I live, you can find heroin or Fentanyl all over.
 
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Okay, as someone with Heroin experience I feel I need to clear this up. It's actually very easy to OD on heroin. Getting pure/clean heroin on the street isn't going to happen. However buying decent stuff on dark net markets is a different story. It's going to vary from country to country, state to state but there's definitely a different breed of heroin/drug dealer to be found on dark net markets. Finding them out does take a certain understanding or ability to do the right kind of research though.

Many people die from heroin OD. Often accidentally. Anyone that's opiate/opioid ignorant would die from IV of 1g of good heroin. Of course, you should not base ant actions on my opinion here. I would and do urge you not to. I'm just saying it's not hard to OD. It's just the fact that being found and bought round with narcan comes with significant risk.
Hey, @Tomino'sNightengale, you might want to edit out the part of your post above where you name the city you're in. Posters can be (and have been) doxxed, threatened, prosecuted, and convicted of serious crimes because someone sifted through their posts for "breadcrumbs" of information, and followed the trail all the way to their front door.

Edit (on topic for once, lol): I've always wanted heroin/opioids to be a viable method for me. Imagine dying and having it feel kind of great! There's another thread around here where someone who claimed a lot of experience with heroin gave a lengthy (and disgusting) description of what death from a heroin OD would be like. I actually don't think it sounded much worse than death by any other poisoning method, and far better than some. But it didn't sound like the "beautiful death" I and others might have been imagining, and that was probably the point. Anyway, I'm not part of the hard-core drug use world, and wouldn't know where to find heroin or anything else.
That might be me you're referring to.

I did explain on here once about how it isn't as nice as it's assumed because you go past the nice bit fast with OD. I forget exactlt what I said but knowing how it goes I'm pretty sure my description would fit your account above. I also spoje about how you become itchy with the use of heroin (recreationaly and can rub the skin on your nose raw by rubbing it constantly.

There are, without doubt worse ways to go than H OD. I would take it tbh. It falls second to N in my book. Possibly even beats it but I think that may be a better the devil you know thing in my case. Honestly though, the risk of brain damage if saved is significant but that's just something you have to factor in. Same as with any other method. People appear to bw bashing it a little more than is necessary IMHO. Not to say the risks pointed out aren't significant or real. Just that they're quite avoidable with some foresight.

Also anyone can get heroin. I guess you don't realise it's going on all around you until you've seen it and then suddenly you realise it's everywhere. It's easier to get than weed in many places. Although weeds become more commonplace now that, what was once somewhat underground is now mainstream pop culture but that's a whole other matter. But yeah, Heroin, coke, crack and meth are not all that hard to come by. Depending on which country/state you're in of course. I used to score with teachers and all sorts. Honestly it's all over the place. I wouldn't recommend buying street heroin though. Even for recreational use. It's all gak these days unless you get lucky but it never stays the same for long.
 
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Ich habe noch nie Heroin genommen, möchte es aber mal ausprobieren. Warum ist dies keine beliebtere Methode?
Ich habe das auch vor. Ich kann auf jeden Fall sagen, dass es eine der sicheren Methoden ist. Du musst es allerdings gut durchdenken und genau wissen, wie es geht.
Und du musst dich spritzen können.
Sinnvoll sind Benzos dazu. Wichtig.
Heroin muss man kurz aufkochen mit Ascorbinsäure. Vit.C ist das. Heroin löst sich sonst nicht auf. Außerdem muss es kurz sterilisiert sein. Und du musst es durch einen Filter aufziehen.
Ich habe gestern 5 Gramm geholt und bin auch bald soweit.
Wenn man alles richtig macht, wirst du innerhalb weniger Sekunden weg sein und definitiv nichts merken. Du bekommst nicht mal mehr die Nadel raus. Krieg egal. Das macht nichts. Du musst aber dafür unbedingt ein paar Sachen unbedingt einhalten.
wWenn du irgendwelche Fragen hast, schreib mir ruhig.

Alles gute für dich 🤗
Und es sollte hochprozentig sein. Im Straßenverkauf ist Dreck nicht gefährlich. Das ist enorm wichtig.
Dann langen 1 bis 1, 5 Gramm um sicher zu sein.
 
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Ich habe das auch vor. Ich kann auf jeden Fall sagen, dass es eine der sicheren Methoden ist. Du musst es allerdings gut durchdenken und genau wissen, wie es geht.
Und du musst dich spritzen können.
Sinnvoll sind Benzos dazu. Wichtig.
Heroin muss man kurz mit Ascorbinsäure aufkochen. Vit.C ist das. Heroin löst sich sonst nicht auf. Außerdem muss es kurz sterilisiert sein. Und du musst es durch einen Filter aufziehen.
Ich habe gestern 5 Gramm geholt und bin auch bald soweit.
Wenn man alles richtig macht, wirst du innerhalb weniger Sekunden weg sein und definitiv nichts merken. Du bekommst nicht mal mehr die Nadel raus. Krieg egal. Das macht nichts. Du musst aber dafür unbedingt ein paar Sachen unbedingt einhalten.
wWenn du irgendwelche Fragen hast, schreib mir ruhig.

Alles Gute für dich🤗
Und es sollte hochprozentig sein. Im Straßenverkauf ist Dreck nicht gefährlich. Das ist enorm wichtig.
Dann langen 1 bis 1, 5 Gramm um sicher zu sein.
Ich meinte im straßenverkauf ist Dreck gefährlich. Bitte da nicht holen.
 
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Es ist kein schrecklicher Weg zu ctb. Sie können leicht genug nehmen, um den Job als sogenannter "Opioid-Unwissender" zu erledigen. Das heißt Erstbenutzer. Das Problem besteht darin, vor dem Passieren gefunden und zurückgekauft zu werden. Wie von anderen angemerkt, besteht ein erhebliches Risiko für Hirnschäden, die dazu führen, dass Sie Vollzeitpflege benötigen und nichts anderes tun können, als zu sitzen und zu existieren. Du denkst, das Leben ist jetzt schlecht, warte einfach, bis du nichts dagegen tun kannst. Es kann immer schlimmer sein. Das große Problem ist, dass Opiate häufig missbrauchte Drogen sind, so dass jede medizinische Einrichtung und jeder Krankenwagen das Gegenmittel mit sich führt, das Sie vom Rand des Todes retten kann. Sie geben es sogar Süchtigen, um Judt zu tragen, falls ein Freund versehentlich hinübergeht. So, Wenn Sie sich für diese Methode entscheiden, müssten Sie eine Quelle der Droge finden, die nicht verdorben und daher schwach ist. Übertreiben Sie die Dosis. Verwenden Sie es intravenös und seien Sie sicher, dass Sie niemand für gute 24 Stunden finden wird.

RE- ein Gemüse hinterlassen zu werden – das kann und wird definitiv passieren. Suchen Sie es einfach und Sie werden viele Konten sehen. Wenn Sie darüber lesen, wie und warum es sie so gelassen hat, wird es daran liegen, dass sie nicht sofort mit Narcan herumgekauft wurden, wenn sie Stunden später gefunden und behandelt wurden, dann ist ein Hirnschaden ziemlich sicher. Einige haben sich von ihrer vollständigen Lähmung erholt und sind nicht in der Lage zu sprechen, aber es ist ein seltenes Vorhofflimmern. Sie gehen ein erhebliches Risiko ein, im vegetativen Zustand zu bleiben, wenn Sie gefunden werden. Ich glaube nicht, dass all die Leute sterben, die darauf scheißen, sich der Details darüber bewusst sind. Ich meine, das Aufhängen hat die gleichen Risiken und alle Methoden sind mit Risiken verbunden. Es gehört meiner Meinung nach zu den friedlichsten Wegen,

It's not a terrible way to ctb. You can easily take enough to do the job as what's termed 'opioid ingnorant'. That's to say first time user. The problem comes with being found and bought back before passing. As noted by others there is significant risk of brain damage that will leave you in need of full time care and with no ability to do anything but sit and exist. You think life is bad now, just wait till you can't do anything about it. It can akways be worse. The big peoblem is that opiates are commonly abused drugs so every medical facility and ambulance carries the antidote which can pull you around from the brink of death. They even give it to addicts to carry judt in case a friend goes over accidentally. So, if you choose this method the requirement would be to find a source of the drug that is not tainted and weak as a result. Over do the dose. Use it intravenously and be certain nobody will find you for a good 24hrs.

RE- ein Gemüse hinterlassen zu werden – das kann und wird definitiv passieren. Suchen Sie es einfach und Sie werden viele Konten sehen. Wenn Sie darüber lesen, wie und warum es sie so gelassen hat, wird es daran liegen, dass sie nicht sofort mit Narcan herumgekauft wurden, wenn sie Stunden später gefunden und behandelt wurden, dann ist ein Hirnschaden ziemlich sicher. Einige haben sich von ihrer vollständigen Lähmung erholt und sind nicht in der Lage zu sprechen, aber es ist ein seltenes Vorhofflimmern. Sie gehen ein erhebliches Risiko ein, im vegetativen Zustand zu bleiben, wenn Sie gefunden werden. Ich glaube nicht, dass all die Leute, die darauf scheißen, sich der Details darüber bewusst sind. Ich meine, das Aufhängen hat die gleichen Risiken und alle Methoden sind mit Risiken verbunden. Es gehört meiner Meinung nach zu den friedlichsten Wegen, um vorbeizukommen.
Das ist absolut wahr. Den Weg gehe ich auch. Hab mir 5 Gramm aus Holland geholt. Absolute Zügel. 90%. Nie im Straßenverkauf holen bitte.
Und noch benzos dazu nehmen. Und ja, oberste PPriorität...nicht gefunden werden.
Das ist absolut wahr. Den Weg gehe ich auch. Hab mir 5 Gramm aus Holland geholt. Absolute Zügel. 90%. Nie im Straßenverkauf holen bitte.
Und noch Benzos dazu nehmen. Und ja, oberste PPriorität...nicht gefunden werden.
Ich mein absolut rein und nichts drin.
Ist es wirklich. Es wäre anders, wenn die Reinheit bekannt wäre und mehr Studien dazu durchgeführt worden wären. Aber es ist zu unsicher zu verwenden
Machst du es richtig, ist es ein Weg der Ordnung ist.

Wichtig...hol dir Benzos dazu, 90% Heroin und werde nicht gefunden. Ich habe mir gestern 5 Gramm geholt. 90%.
Kein Straßenverkauf bitte. Du bist innerhalb weniger Sekunden weg und bekommst nichts mehr mit. Glaube mir.
Und in gar keinem Fall finden lassen.
Das ist absolut wahr. Den Weg gehe ich auch. Hab mir 5 Gramm aus Holland geholt. Absolute Zügel. 90%. Nie im Straßenverkauf holen bitte.
Und noch Benzos dazu nehmen. Und ja, oberste PPriorität...nicht gefunden werden.

Ich mein absolut rein und nichts drin.

Machst du es richtig, ist es ein Weg der Ordnung ist.

Wichtig...hol dir Benzos dazu, 90% Heroin und werde nicht gefunden. Ich habe mir gestern 5 Gramm geholt. 90%.
Bitte kein Straßenverkauf. Du bist innerhalb weniger Sekunden weg und bekommst nichts mehr mit. Glaube mir.
Und in gar keinem Fall finden lassen.
UUnd wenn du Kontakt hast und weißt wo und wer das Zeug verkauft, kennst du auch die Reinheit. Das braucht aber etwas Zeit und Muse, also einen korrekten Kontakt zu finden.
Stürze du Fragen hast oder so, kannst du gerne fragen.
Ich habe noch nie Heroin genommen, möchte es aber mal ausprobieren. Warum ist dies keine beliebte Methode?

Ich habe noch nie Heroin genommen, möchte es aber mal ausprobieren. Warum ist dies keine beliebtere Methode?
von der Menge die du nimmst ist einfach. Für Menschen, die keine Toleranz haben, also absolut neu, langen schon locker ein halbes Gramm. Aber nur reines zeug. Sicherheitshalber mehr. Ich werde mir mindest 2 Gramm aufkochen. Immer in Verbindung mit benzos.
 
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sundown12

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i'd like to OD on H, i wish there was a big thread on it. i have like 0 experience with hard drugs tho.
my questions are
- does it have an expiration date? how to store it properly?
- how do i practice with the needle? my veins are like non-existent
- H vs methadone? which one is better/more peaceful
 
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Lies dir mal meine Threads durch. Vielleicht hilft dir das. Evtl hast du Fragen, dann frag ruhig 🤗
Ich habe das auch vor. Ich kann auf jeden Fall sagen, dass es eine der sicheren Methoden ist. Du musst es allerdings gut durchdenken und genau wissen, wie es geht.
Und du musst dich spritzen können.
Sinnvoll sind Benzos dazu. Wichtig.
Heroin muss man kurz mit Ascorbinsäure aufkochen. Vit.C ist das. Heroin löst sich sonst nicht auf. Außerdem muss es kurz sterilisiert sein. Und du musst es durch einen Filter aufziehen.
Ich habe gestern 5 Gramm geholt und bin auch bald soweit.
Wenn man alles richtig macht, wirst du innerhalb weniger Sekunden weg sein und definitiv nichts merken. Du bekommst nicht mal mehr die Nadel raus. Krieg egal. Das macht nichts. Du musst aber dafür unbedingt ein paar Sachen unbedingt einhalten.
wWenn du irgendwelche Fragen hast, schreib mir ruhig.

Alles Gute für dich🤗
Und es sollte hochprozentig sein. Im Straßenverkauf ist Dreck nicht gefährlich. Das ist enorm wichtig.
Dann langen 1 bis 1, 5 Gramm um sicher zu sein.
🤗
Ich habe das auch vor. Ich kann auf jeden Fall sagen, dass es eine der sicheren Methoden ist. Du musst es allerdings gut durchdenken und genau wissen, wie es geht.
Und du musst dich spritzen können.
Sinnvoll sind Benzos dazu. Wichtig.
Heroin muss man kurz mit Ascorbinsäure aufkochen. Vit.C ist das. Heroin löst sich sonst nicht auf. Außerdem muss es kurz sterilisiert sein. Und du musst es durch einen Filter aufziehen.
Ich habe gestern 5 Gramm geholt und bin auch bald soweit.
Wenn man alles richtig macht, wirst du innerhalb weniger Sekunden weg sein und definitiv nichts merken. Du bekommst nicht mal mehr die Nadel raus. Krieg egal. Das macht nichts. Du musst aber dafür unbedingt ein paar Sachen unbedingt einhalten.
wWenn du irgendwelche Fragen hast, schreib mir ruhig.

Alles Gute für dich🤗
Und es sollte hochprozentig sein. Im Straßenverkauf ist Dreck nicht gefährlich. Das ist enorm wichtig.
Dann langen 1 bis 1, 5 Gramm um sicher zu sein.
🤗
 
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Is it really that essential to IV to OD on Heroin? I've done alot of Heroin in my short lifetime but never IV. I don't see myself practice and learn it myself neither. I've always just snorted...sometimes smoked. But even then I sometimes came to the point where I wasn't able to breathe. Especially if I combine it with alot of benzos like Lorazepam and snort like 1g wouldn't that be as effective? I mean snorting 1g at once is hella much. Is it realistic to do so? Would it take longer to pass out than IV? Would it still be that peacefull? Is it as safe to ctb snorting it? Sorry for all those questions asked randomly. I just wanna go peacefully snorting H + Benzos and wanted to know if it's still a good method and lethal compared to IV
 
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Because u can't determien the dosage u need to ctb. Also if u fuck up u will end up a vegetable. That is certainly not what you want at all. It is an unsafe method to ctb, it really is.

This about ending up a vegetable while OD'ing on Heroin is pure misinformation.
You would either die or wake up like you were sleeping.
No repercussions whatsoever.

Heroin is also not easy to administer IV (in the veins) for people with no experience.
You have to know how to locate the vein... and it's messy.
It's very difficult to OD by snorting or smoking H... it is possible, but highly unlikely, so yes, IV use is essential for this purpose.

If this is the OP's method of choice, he should buy the stuff online, since the H they sell on the street is a lot weaker.
And if he needs further instructions, PM.
 
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Someone who has never used, and has no contacts, is going to struggle with getting heroin.
yeah, trying to buy from a street dealer, with zero experience, you're gonna seem like a narc. not trying to be rude or anything, it's just the reality

...also to include a few years back i was trying to get some to ctb, my dealer downright refused to sell to me because he knew why i wanted it. a coke&speed user, just out of the psych ward, asking for h? lol nope. dealers don't actually want you to die. it can open up a whole big thing for them on the legal side of things, they'd rather not deal with suicidal people. when i went to rehab, someone there was in legal trouble for selling laced xanax to a kid who didn't survive an accidental od.
 
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yeah, trying to buy from a street dealer, with zero experience, you're gonna seem like a narc. not trying to be rude or anything, it's just the reality

...also to include a few years back i was trying to get some to ctb, my dealer downright refused to sell to me because he knew why i wanted it. a coke&speed user, just out of the psych ward, asking for h? lol nope. dealers don't actually want you to die. it can open up a whole big thing for them on the legal side of things, they'd rather not deal with suicidal people. when i went to rehab, someone there was in legal trouble for selling laced xanax to a kid who didn't survive an accidental od.
o_O Holy shit I never knew benzodiazepines could get laced as well until now. I better be careful with my alprazolam tablets because I don't wanna start building up a tolerance to opioids. ;>___________>
 
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I've never done heroin before but want to od on it. Why isn't this a more popular method?
A lot of people dont know any heroin dealers. and probably the only way to OD on it is to inject it. finding a vein and stick a needle in first time could be hard. You got any junky friends?
 
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bijou

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o_O Holy shit I never knew benzodiazepines could get laced as well until now. I better be careful with my alprazolam tablets because I don't wanna start building up a tolerance to opioids. ;>___________>
yeah it sucks, really scary out there right now for drug users right now. a lot of the stories you hear about people overdosing from bars, or oxy are because they were pressed and cut with an insane amount of fentanyl (lil peep's od comes to mind).

if you are wary of your pills being fake there are test kits available at most methadone/harm-reduction clinics, safe injection sites, and to purchase online. i'm coming at this from a harm-reduction standpoint, if you wanna get high, don't be dumb about it. stay safe and well.
 
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May 18, 2021
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Bear in mind that everyone.. and I mean EVERYONE pukes when they first take opiates.
It's not unpleasant like when you normally get sick. Some people get used to it quicker than others.
Another consideration is that it's frequently the very thing that prevents people from topping themselves. It just stops you from caring about those things that made you so miserable that life was unbearable.
No dealer is ever going to sell pure H. Their customers would be dropping dead left and right.
I've witnessed a number of ODs and while it's not my place to tell you what to do, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
 
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No dealer is ever going to sell pure H. Their customers would be dropping dead left and right.

The 'problem' with H is that it's illegal and big business. Only those at the top of the chain get it anywhere near pure. By the time it gets to the average street dealer, its been cut several times to maximise profit. You wouldn't have any idea how much you were taking or what it had been cut with. If you have access to H, you probably know people who can get you prescription drugs which, whilst still not legal without a prescription, are far more likely to be pure. But both are added risks that I wouldn't take given there are other legal alternatives. SN may be hard to find at the moment but it's legal and possession/sale won't give you a criminal record if something goes wrong.
 

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