Help How is my SN Protocol?

[zekeyaeger]

Stat Dose
00:00 - Stop eating food
06:00 - Stop intake of water
07:00 - 600mg Ibuprofen
07:20 - 3 x 10mg Metoclopramide
07:20 - Prepare 2 cups SN 20g in <50ml of water
08:00 - Drink SN

Am I doing this right? Sorry, just need some confirmation.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

This is what I want to know and where does benzo go in?

 

[reyonrays]

I suggest you take a peek in pph, stan's guide or other user's protocol for research regarding your protocol.

You only need sn, that's the important part, other pills (benzo, ae, antacid, or even opiods) are only supplementary, it's there to help for the pain, nausea or any discomfort you might be experiencing when taken sn.

You have to be carefull not to reach a point of not being able to drink the sn because of taking too much benzos, that you are going to pass out or feel unwell enough not being able to do it.

Your protocol seems fine, and nothing wrong with it, maybe include a benzo, look up how long it takes for that particular pill to take effect, however taking too much of it, might reduce the time, crushing the pills into a drinkable solution allows for faster absorption so either take it after drinking the sn, or 30 minutes before sn.

And remember, sn is what causes death, not the pills, you just have to make sure it stays in your body and not vomit it all out

Again, do your research, and definitely dont make the decision too rashly, think it over, i wish you good luck, and remember, there are many people here whom you can talk to, even people that might have the same experience your are having.

Anyways, be strong, sending love!

 

[stella68]

Ti consiglio di dare un'occhiata a pph, alla guida di stan o al protocollo di altri utenti per fare ricerche sul tuo protocollo.

Hai bisogno solo di SN, questa è la parte importante, le altre pillole (benzo, AE, antiacidi o anche oppioidi) sono solo supplementari, servono per alleviare il dolore, la nausea o qualsiasi altro fastidio che potresti provare quando prendi SN.

Bisogna stare attenti a non arrivare al punto di non riuscire più a bere il SN a causa dell'assunzione di troppe benzodiazepine, altrimenti si rischia di svenire o di sentirsi così male da non riuscire a farlo.

Il tuo protocollo sembra corretto e non c'è niente di sbagliato, forse dovresti includere una benzodiazepina, cercare quanto tempo impiega quella particolare pillola a fare effetto, tuttavia prenderne troppa potrebbe ridurre il tempo, frantumare le pillole in una soluzione bevibile consente un assorbimento più rapido, quindi prendila dopo aver bevuto la SN o 30 minuti prima della SN.

E ricorda, è il SN a causare la morte, non le pillole, devi solo assicurarti che rimanga nel tuo corpo e non vomitarlo tutto.

Di nuovo, fai le tue ricerche e non prendere decisioni troppo avventate, pensaci bene, ti auguro buona fortuna e ricorda che ci sono molte persone qui con cui puoi parlare, anche persone che potrebbero avere la tua stessa esperienza.

Comunque, siate forti, vi mando amore!:cuore:

Dove trovo pph o guida stan? grazie

 

[singingcrow]

I suggest you take a peek in pph, stan's guide or other user's protocol for research regarding your protocol.

You only need sn, that's the important part, other pills (benzo, ae, antacid, or even opiods) are only supplementary, it's there to help for the pain, nausea or any discomfort you might be experiencing when taken sn.

You have to be carefull not to reach a point of not being able to drink the sn because of taking too much benzos, that you are going to pass out or feel unwell enough not being able to do it.

Your protocol seems fine, and nothing wrong with it, maybe include a benzo, look up how long it takes for that particular pill to take effect, however taking too much of it, might reduce the time, crushing the pills into a drinkable solution allows for faster absorption so either take it after drinking the sn, or 30 minutes before sn.

And remember, sn is what causes death, not the pills, you just have to make sure it stays in your body and not vomit it all out

Again, do your research, and definitely dont make the decision too rashly, think it over, i wish you good luck, and remember, there are many people here whom you can talk to, even people that might have the same experience your are having.

Anyways, be strong, sending love!

taking opiods and benzos is okay?

 

[reyonrays]

taking opiods and benzos is okay?

They both can induce sedation so effect will be stronger, especially at higher doses, but if you are taking it with sn, then yes. Opiods are not needed for the sn method, it's more like a luxury thing, if you have it include it kinda pill, its up to you to decide how much to take.

One thing to remember is, if you have never taking opiods or benzos, your body needs to get used to it, so side effects will be stronger than someone whose body has a tolerance to those pills.
This means, taking it together, can make it actually worse, higher chance to vomit.

 

[PhDone]

They both can induce sedation so effect will be stronger, especially at higher doses, but if you are taking it with sn, then yes. Opiods are not needed for the sn method, it's more like a luxury thing, if you have it include it kinda pill, its up to you to decide how much to take.

One thing to remember is, if you have never taking opiods or benzos, your body needs to get used to it, so side effects will be stronger than someone whose body has a tolerance to those pills.
This means, taking it together, can make it actually worse, higher chance to vomit.

Any idea of the timeframe of effect with opiods? We have heaps of benzo chat and exploration on SaSu but havent seen anything combining both.

 

[reyonrays]

Any idea of the timeframe of effect with opiods? We have heaps of benzo chat and exploration on SaSu but havent seen anything combining both.

Well, you probably want an opioid that's IR (immediate-release), which is usually 30-60 minutes to kick in, the other one is SR (sustained-release), which gradually gets absorbed, depending on the opioid, can take up to 4 hours and the effect works longer, the timing frame is up to which opioid you are taking, my guess is they all have similar timeframes. you can always look it up.

I got mine from the dw, only the sr one's, they were way cheaper than the fast acting ones.

For my protocol, i'll probably take the oxycodone (sr), 4 to 5 hours before taking sn solution.

btw, you can always mix opioid with water, and drink it, this will make it more stronger and absorb it quicker, i do not have a timeframe for that, but from what i read, it's not advised to do that. It can cause a rapid release of the opioid.

 

[PhDone]

Well, you probably want an opioid that's IR (immediate-release), which is usually 30-60 minutes to kick in, the other one is SR (sustained-release), which gradually gets absorbed, depending on the opioid, can take up to 4 hours and the effect works longer, the timing frame is up to which opioid you are taking, my guess is they all have similar timeframes. you can always look it up.

I got mine from the dw, only the sr one's, they were way cheaper than the fast acting ones.

For my protocol, i'll probably take the oxycodone (sr), 4 to 5 hours before taking sn solution.

btw, you can always mix opioid with water, and drink it, this will make it more stronger and absorb it quicker, i do not have a timeframe for that, but from what i read, it's not advised to do that. It can cause a rapid release of the opioid.

Ok thanks. I actually have liquid M. Like the little vials. 3 of them so prob 15ml. Was just going to add them to the benzo and propranolol mix. And had thought that should be 5-10min out.

Is there risk of rapid M absorption like this then?

 

[reyonrays]

Ok thanks. I actually have liquid M. Like the little vials. 3 of them so prob 15ml. Was just going to add them to the benzo and propranolol mix. And had thought that should be 5-10min out.

Is there risk of rapid M absorption like this then?

I'm not an expert or anything, and i'm writing from the things i read and know about it.

If it's a ir liquid , then you are looking for onset of 15 to 30 minutes, since your body does not need to break down further, probably best to take 15 to 10 minutes before the sn.

Important is how many mg there is in the 15ml solution, stronger it is, the stronger the effect and side effect will be.

There is no chance for rapid absorption, since the liquid from is not exactly the same as mixing it in water.

But again, make sure do to your own research as much as possible, don't know if you have the tolerance for the opioid, but sometimes less is better, because opioid also bring their own side effect too, so crucial to stick to amounts that you can handle, definitely don't want to be in a position where you are not able to drink the sn.

My guess is, 10 minutes before sn, once you drink the sn and the pill solution, the effect of opioid should kick in couple minutes later, or if you are able drink it after the sn. Whatever you think you can handle.

I hope this helps a bit.