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happysunnydayy

happysunnydayy

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I can't get my hands on rope and I've alot of scarves ( the one indian women wear around their neck -dupatta ) since I'm TERRIFIED of failure, can I double the scarf, more than 12 mm. They're mostly polyester. How much longer would it take to die from a ligature that's not 12mm thin? Please help.

I've seen Indian people use thicker clothes too for it. I just wanna know how many more seconds of suffering would it be? I really don't want it to break :(
 
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As a baseline, pressure = force / area, so all else being equal, an increase in the area of your ligature will see a directly proportional drop in pressure around your neck. However, because your neck is not a smooth cylindrical object, that pressure may get applied inconsistently the more you stretch it around your neck - doubly so if the scarf you're using is inconsistently folded. Furthermore, full suspension with a 12mm rope typically applies more pressure than you would need to instantly fully occlude your carotid arteries, so "time to pass out" is not a linear function of pressure applied to your neck in the first place.

All that's to say - impossible to predict without testing it. And testing it is dangerous, sooooooo you may just have to settle for this being an unanswerable question. It would probably take longer than if you used a rope :/
 
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As a baseline, pressure = force / area, so all else being equal, an increase in the area of your ligature will see a directly proportional drop in pressure around your neck. However, because your neck is not a smooth cylindrical object, that pressure may get applied inconsistently the more you stretch it around your neck - doubly so if the scarf you're using is inconsistently folded. Furthermore, full suspension with a 12mm rope typically applies more pressure than you would need to instantly fully occlude your carotid arteries, so "time to pass out" is not a linear function of pressure applied to your neck in the first place.

All that's to say - impossible to predict without testing it. And testing it is dangerous, sooooooo you may just have to settle for this being an unanswerable question. It would probably take longer than if you used a rope :/
I remember some gore hanging videos where the Indian people used thicker clothes and still passed out within 10 seconds but idk if it's luck or it's normal lol. I'd rather suffer for a few more seconds than have it break.
I remember some gore hanging videos where the Indian people used thicker clothes and still passed out within 10 seconds but idk if it's luck or it's normal lol. I'd rather suffer for a few more seconds than have it break.
I just don't wanna strangle myself
 
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Rope, especially when made of polyester or other high-resistance materials, is the most effective tool for hanging due to practical and mechanical reasons: it has high tensile strength, does not stretch, ensures constant pressure on the neck, and allows for fixed knots such as the hangman's knot, which provide immediate and stable constriction. In contrast, using scarves, shawls, dupattas, or other household fabrics is often improvised and unreliable. While these can sometimes cause rapid loss of consciousness—particularly if the carotid arteries are compressed correctly—they carry a high risk of failure: they may loosen, slip, or tear, do not provide constant tension, and often lack a secure anchor point. These poorly executed attempts are precisely what lower the lethality statistics in domestic hanging cases. As my aunt, who works in a hospital trauma unit, often says, it's not uncommon for patients to arrive after a failed hanging with broken knees, fractures, or injuries from the fall—and many of them are transferred directly to psychiatry afterwards. It happens far more often than people think.
And I can assure you, it's not pleasant at all. She had a 24-year-old guy who spent almost two months going back and forth to the hospital for treatments, and he could barely move because of the injury he sustained—it affected both his pelvis and part of his spine. He only started walking again a few days ago.
 
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Rope, especially when made of polyester or other high-resistance materials, is the most effective tool for hanging due to practical and mechanical reasons: it has high tensile strength, does not stretch, ensures constant pressure on the neck, and allows for fixed knots such as the hangman's knot, which provide immediate and stable constriction. In contrast, using scarves, shawls, dupattas, or other household fabrics is often improvised and unreliable. While these can sometimes cause rapid loss of consciousness—particularly if the carotid arteries are compressed correctly—they carry a high risk of failure: they may loosen, slip, or tear, do not provide constant tension, and often lack a secure anchor point. These poorly executed attempts are precisely what lower the lethality statistics in domestic hanging cases. As my aunt, who works in a hospital trauma unit, often says, it's not uncommon for patients to arrive after a failed hanging with broken knees, fractures, or injuries from the fall—and many of them are transferred directly to psychiatry afterwards. It happens far more often than people think.
And I can assure you, it's not pleasant at all. She had a 24-year-old guy who spent almost two months going back and forth to the hospital for treatments, and he could barely move because of the injury he sustained—it affected both his pelvis and part of his spine. He only started walking again a few days ago.
Interesting because almost all Indian people seemed to have died from dupattas. ( I have gone through almost thousands of pics and videos) It could be made stronger however by doubling them no? No breaking or losing up and you use slipknot. Sushant Singh, Jiah khan used cloth too..
@Gustav Hartmann help
 
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Where comes the magical 12 mm from? The pressure on the neck also depends on your body weight. It is directly proportional to your body weight and inversely proportional to the rope diameter. You need surprisingly little pressure to close the carotids.
In the non lethal hanging community they use much thicker ligatures than dupattas. They do it in order to make the hanging more comfortable and save and they want to stay conscious as long as possible. Nevertheless almost nobody succeedes to stay longer conscious the 30 seconds.

Of course you double the strength if you double the dupatta.
 
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Where comes the magical 12 mm from? The pressure on the neck also depends on your body weight. It is directly proportional to your body weight and inversely proportional to the rope diameter. You need surprisingly little pressure to close the carotids.
In the non lethal hanging community they use much thicker ligatures than dupattas. They do it in order to make the hanging more comfortable and save and they want to stay conscious as long as possible. Nevertheless almost nobody succeedes to stay longer conscious the 30 seconds.

Of course you double the strength if you double the dupatta.
To hang non Lethally is it for high right? And thanks for your reply it's very helpful
 
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it doesnt need to be thick, you just need to apply enough pressure to pass out.
I have already passed out once but survived
 
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it doesnt need to be thick, you just need to apply enough pressure to pass out.
I have already passed out once but survived
I'm keeping it thick just in case it's very strong and chances of breaking are 0.
 
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I remember some gore hanging videos where the Indian people used thicker clothes and still passed out within 10 seconds but idk if it's luck or it's normal lol. I'd rather suffer for a few more seconds than have it break.

I just don't wanna strangle myself
I think I've seen the video you're referring to. There is a lot of variance between individuals regarding the exact positioning of the carotid arteries and the fat around the neck. It's impossible to answer your question unfortunately. I too have seen videos of people passing out extremely quickly, but it's impossible to predict, as @evanescent_eva pointed out
 

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