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takuyablackbox

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Feb 19, 2025
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is there any way at all to talk about suicidal ideation to my therapist without them sending me to the hospital/asylum? all i want is to have a genuine conversation about my thoughts and how i feel from a place of no bias but it feels impossible to do anywhere other than on this site. friends/family will just freak out and see you as delusional. and getting sent to a mental health asylum is just an enhanced version of that. feels like a mockery. sigh.
 
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pinstripe

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Jul 31, 2025
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I've been going for years and the only way I've found was to ask what alternatives they might offer. The main thing I note is mental health professionals have their own jobs and livelihood to maintain and it's all contingent on receiving money from those who are struggling, mentally and emotionally.
 
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TBONTB

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May 31, 2025
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is there any way at all to talk about suicidal ideation to my therapist without them sending me to the hospital/asylum? all i want is to have a genuine conversation about my thoughts and how i feel from a place of no bias but it feels impossible to do anywhere other than on this site. friends/family will just freak out and see you as delusional. and getting sent to a mental health asylum is just an enhanced version of that. feels like a mockery. sigh.
I'm not offering personal experience so take it for what it's worth. It seems like you can approach it from "some times these thoughts cross my mind" point of view. "Sometimes I imagine jumping from a bridge." But then you would need to talk about it from the perspective of wanting to feel better, rather than actually pursuing the idea.
 
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naookoo128

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Jul 13, 2025
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is there any way at all to talk about suicidal ideation to my therapist without them sending me to the hospital/asylum?
I think what´s most important, is how you start that whole conversation/topic. In my therapy we talked about obsessive thoughts at some point and I felt like this was a good moment to start talking about suicide and showing my darkest ideas. I´m thinking about it since im 10 years old, for me that was a good opener, because my therapist always wants to talk about my childhood, of course. And its far away in time, it doesnt scare her off immediately, but this way I can explain why these thoughts are so "normal" to me nowadays. Why I´m seeing myself all the time doing it. It´s probably a better way than "I bought some rope a week ago and I dont know what to do anymore" or something.
I also mentioned that most of the time I knew that I will never do it anyways, and thats why I´m feeling even more pathetic about it. That was no sugarcoating, it was true. But that doesnt matter I think. I had no attempt yet, but even if, I dont think you have to mention that to have a good and helpful conversation about suicide. Of course I´m saying that because that would be a good reason for a therapist to panic. I think your therapist doesnt have to know at which date, in which way, or however you want to end your life. She wants to know why you´re having these thoughts, and thats exantly what we should also ask ourselves. So try to talk about that, I think.
I mean, I can just say how it was for me, maybe it helps, maybe not, its a very personal thing. But it gave me confidence all over and at some point I even started talking to my friends about it. But you have to decide careful who you can give that burden, not everyone can take it, and thats very okay I think.
 
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shady868

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Jul 22, 2025
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Just dont mention you have any like real plans and I dont think they can do anything
 
lysergamide

lysergamide

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Oct 2, 2024
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Depends on the country you're in and its legislations regarding ctb. I'd just say that it's on my mind but that i'm too afraid to act up and that locking me up in a ward would just make things worse for me personally.
 
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Amviii

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Nov 27, 2020
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is there any way at all to talk about suicidal ideation to my therapist without them sending me to the hospital/asylum? all i want is to have a genuine conversation about my thoughts and how i feel from a place of no bias but it feels impossible to do anywhere other than on this site. friends/family will just freak out and see you as delusional. and getting sent to a mental health asylum is just an enhanced version of that. feels like a mockery. sigh.
Usually what triggers them to institutionalize you is thinking you have a plan and method. Talk about your thoughts, but when they ask if you have a specific plan, say no, and pose them purely as hypotheticals that you occasionally think about.
 
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SomewhatLoved

SomewhatLoved

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Apr 12, 2023
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It varies by country, but the honest truth is it's hard to do so in a 100% free fashion. It might be possible, but as other commentors have stated, you will potentially have to alter or restrict the way in which you discuss it, and may not be able to truly express how you feel.

I live in Canada. Here, healthcare practitioners of any kind are legally obligated to break patient-practitioner confidentiality and activate other appropriate resources if they have a patient/client who is a danger to themselves or others. This obviously encompasses suicide, but it also encompasses homicide or even other things, like if someone confessed to an ongoing violent crime or something like that such as beating or otherwise assaulting/abusing a child in their care.

There is some nuance here. Is someone who occasionally thinks "what if I didn't wake up tomorrow" a danger to themselves? I would argue probably not. I would wager that a considerable amount of the population has thoughts like these, and while abstract thoughts or desire to be dead is technically suicidal ideation, I would be surprised if anyone in a modern clinical setting would be detained into medical custody for this.

Where I work, we use the C-SSRS (Columbia Suicide Severity Rating Scale) to determine suicide risk. It assesses for the following:
1. Abstract thoughts "I want to be dead"
2. Non-specific thoughts, no intent "I think about killing myself"
3. Specific thoughts, no intent/plan "I think about hanging myself, but would never actually do it and have no rope"
4. Non-specific thoughts, with intent "I am planning to kill myself, but don't know how"
5. Specific thoughts, with intent "I am planning to kill myself and I have sedative drugs at home"

As you get further down the list the more severe it is. 1, 2 are considered low risk. 3 is considered medium risk. 4 is high risk, 5 is extreme risk. I would say if you confess to being at 1 or 2 you would be safe. 3 is probably safe but might want to be careful and depends on the therapist, 4 I almost certainly avoid, and 5 I would not even consider.

Also worth considering the health system you live in. Many health systems are overloaded, and sometimes people who meet criteria to be in a psychiatric inpatient unit are turned away due to capacity and demand.

If a healthcare practitioner knows you have intent to kill yourself and are therefore a danger to yourself but fails to report it, it is putting them in danger. If you were to go through with it, they would likely be investigated. In Canada any suicide is automatically considered a suspicious death and police will always investigate it, at least to some extent. If it is found out that a mental health practitioner failed to report that you were a danger to yourself, they could lose their license or even be charged with negligence, gross negligence, or probably some other crimes. Depends on the specific case and circumstance.

Our health system is pro-life. From a pro-choice perspective, this is obviously punitive to some extent. Be safe, and I'm sorry for the way you're feeling. I hope you can get the help you need.
 
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jazzcat621

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Jun 30, 2025
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They will institutionalize you involuntarily if you say you have a plan and intent. Outside of that they can only recommend voluntary hospitalization unless they have a compelling reason to believe you have plan and intent.
 
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NoHorizon

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Nov 22, 2022
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I'm in the UK and it's pretty relaxed with what you can talk about. I've told therapists I have SN, and very recently told several MH workers that I feel like I'm a bad day away from immediately using it and nothing has ever happened. Here unless you outright say you have a date or are in the process of doing it they don't really care.
 
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Eriktf

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Jun 1, 2023
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i talk about it sometimes

it all comes down to if you are in acute danger to hurt your self or not

my therapist often just ask me if im going to hurt my self or not soon, i say no and she leaves it at that

therapist are just a persons so what they do or how they react depends on the therapist

the point of seeing a therapist are to talk about stuff like ctb
 
PI3.14

PI3.14

what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider
Oct 4, 2024
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It depends. Where I live, talking about it in a private clinic is probably safe, but it also depends on your relationship with the psychiatrist or therapist. My psychiatrist understands my philosophy and so I trust him.

Public clinics however aren't safe. If you say that you're suicidal then expect to be locked in a ward for undetermined period of time.
 
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orbit

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Jul 27, 2025
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I'm in the UK and it's pretty relaxed with what you can talk about. I've told therapists I have SN, and very recently told several MH workers that I feel like I'm a bad day away from immediately using it and nothing has ever happened. Here unless you outright say you have a date or are in the process of doing it they don't really care.
This 100%. If you're in the UK as long as you say you don't have a plan they won't section you. Hell half of the time if you state you do have a plan they still won't do anything about it.

I have been in A&E before overdosing on drugs and all I got out of it was 'go home, have a cup of tea' and have been told they want to section me but just don't have the beds for it- and if you self harm they aren't bothered at all by it. They just encourage you to do it with some antiseptic on hand.
 
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EvisceratedJester

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Oct 21, 2023
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So long as you make it clear that you don't plan on attempting, your therapist cannot force you to the hospital. This is something that both the doctor and my counsellor made clear to me. They are only supposed to send you to the hospital if you admit to actually planning to kill yourself.
 

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