Damn I deleted the content of the thread well here we go again.
Will we all go to hell? Will I go to hell for this thread? Am I already in hell?
Pope Francis washed the feet of prisoners. He said everyday he asks himself "why them? Why not me?". That proves he was a decent human being (imo)
At the same time I think it is true what my grandma said. One does not need to pray for him "if only one person can make it to heaven, it will be him".
I think Francis was a very good Pope. (Compared to all other options). Though he played down violence against children for example.
I think in a relative sense he was a good Pope. However, in such a high position one has a lot of responsibilities. There is great inertia within the Vatican. If one was purely altruistic one could do probably way more good if one sacrificed parts of the wealth of the church. But the others would have killed him for that. Lol. Which sort of proves these people are no representatives of God. They are humans with the same flaws. Greed, power, status and hierarchy. The church needed fundamental changes but depending on the regions they all have different preferences.
Now to the question of this thread. How would Pope Francis think of us? I assume they would judge us. Which is imo illogical. Most things in life are pre-determined. And the former quote of the Pope makes me believe he thinks the same. I think humans only have a very small room for own independent actions. Blaming/guilt-tripping suicidal people for their suicidality is cynical. If one can only endure this living nightmare by posting on a suicide forum...wiell if this is what keeps you going it seems to be a justifiable action.
But when I think how stigmatized suicide, suicidal people and people who ctb are...and the churches play a huge role in that. The churches might shouldd fear what we think about them and not vice versa. We are the "weakest and the most vulnerable" why are we the pariahs. The churches, the psychiatry and the media make us pariahs.
However, maybe he had an alt-account. I always had the feeling maybe @Dr Iron Arc could be the actual Pope and most of his stories are encrypted subliminal messages one has to interpret by changing every single letter into latin, then taking the 69th verse of the bible verse by Takeshi 69 and translate into old Greeek. I could go on and on. The translation is very complicated. I had psychosis is this excuse good enough for not going to hell? I mean making people in pain laugh how evil can be this sin? Actual one reason why I am not religious. Believing in God can make me actual paranoid and psychotic. I met some people with religious delusions. I wonder though how the Pope has so much freetime to post a couple of thousand posts in a suicide forum. Maybe it is like Elon Musk and his gaming career and he engages people to post for him instead to spread his messages also to the sinners.
Will we all go to hell? Will I go to hell for this thread? Am I already in hell?
Pope Francis washed the feet of prisoners. He said everyday he asks himself "why them? Why not me?". That proves he was a decent human being (imo)
At the same time I think it is true what my grandma said. One does not need to pray for him "if only one person can make it to heaven, it will be him".
I think Francis was a very good Pope. (Compared to all other options). Though he played down violence against children for example.
I think in a relative sense he was a good Pope. However, in such a high position one has a lot of responsibilities. There is great inertia within the Vatican. If one was purely altruistic one could do probably way more good if one sacrificed parts of the wealth of the church. But the others would have killed him for that. Lol. Which sort of proves these people are no representatives of God. They are humans with the same flaws. Greed, power, status and hierarchy. The church needed fundamental changes but depending on the regions they all have different preferences.
Now to the question of this thread. How would Pope Francis think of us? I assume they would judge us. Which is imo illogical. Most things in life are pre-determined. And the former quote of the Pope makes me believe he thinks the same. I think humans only have a very small room for own independent actions. Blaming/guilt-tripping suicidal people for their suicidality is cynical. If one can only endure this living nightmare by posting on a suicide forum...wiell if this is what keeps you going it seems to be a justifiable action.
But when I think how stigmatized suicide, suicidal people and people who ctb are...and the churches play a huge role in that. The churches might shouldd fear what we think about them and not vice versa. We are the "weakest and the most vulnerable" why are we the pariahs. The churches, the psychiatry and the media make us pariahs.
However, maybe he had an alt-account. I always had the feeling maybe @Dr Iron Arc could be the actual Pope and most of his stories are encrypted subliminal messages one has to interpret by changing every single letter into latin, then taking the 69th verse of the bible verse by Takeshi 69 and translate into old Greeek. I could go on and on. The translation is very complicated. I had psychosis is this excuse good enough for not going to hell? I mean making people in pain laugh how evil can be this sin? Actual one reason why I am not religious. Believing in God can make me actual paranoid and psychotic. I met some people with religious delusions. I wonder though how the Pope has so much freetime to post a couple of thousand posts in a suicide forum. Maybe it is like Elon Musk and his gaming career and he engages people to post for him instead to spread his messages also to the sinners.
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