Hypothetical, if emergency services found you during a SN attempt what are the chances they could 'rescue' you?

[IWantAPerfectSoul]

As I understand, even 1g of SN is a fatal dose, so 25g should be enough to do the job. I am also aware that it'll take up to 40 minutes for complete succession.

So realistically how much time would emergency services have if you were discovered shortly after ingesting SN? 10 minutes after? 20 minutes after? How quick would they be able to identify the cause and treat it?

 

[MyTimeIsUp]

Don't know, but some have been rescued, because they didn't want to die, so called for help.

I think the treatment is blue something, could be wrong there. . Can't remember the name of it.

I would presume they would need to know what you had taken in order to save your life, unless perhaps they'd come across it before, which I highly doubt

 

[ItsAllSoTiresome]

There's a Reddit thread on the EMS subreddit from a few years ago about treating suicide attempts with SN. Basically if they encounter a patient who has taken it, it boils down to (a) if they can identify what they have taken , (b) how quickly they can get the patient to a hospital and (c) if the hospital has any methylene blue (the only known antidote) in stock, as ambulances don't have it. So the only real chance of survival you'd have is if you called 911 almost immediately after taking the SN and they were able to get you to the hospital within 30-40 minutes or so, I'd say at a guess.

 

[maniac116]

Methylene blue is the antidote ems would use to revive you. The variable is whether they get to you in time & how much you vomit. That's why people use antiemetics. If you vomit too early in the process you need a second cup to succeed

 

[TheHolySword]

It depends on a variety of factors. How much you took, how big you are, how much remained in your system, how quickly they were able to get you to the hospital and administer treatment, time from dosage to treatment, etc. It also varies how quickly they'll be able to identify what you took if you don't tell them. Regardless, people have CTBed after calling for help and people have survived without calling for help. It's hard to say with any certainty what's going to happen

 

[dontwakemeup]

So everyone is a full code naturally by default. No matter what the situation is and what we personally perceive will be your outcome, we have legally uphold your status. We have to account for everything we done to save your life, whether you live or die.

Suicide attempts are no different! There use to be a high volume of suicide a few years ago and some of you guys may remember this. People would get a tattoo on their chest saying, "DNR!" They did this in hopes if found and they cut their shirt off that Dr would see the tattoo and stop trying to save their lives. I almost did it too until I understood the facts.

Let's say you took med x in a suicide attempt and when the squad comes they can't immediately figure out what's wrong with you, but your body gives clues where we need to start. Everyone works as a team to stabilize you until you arrive at the hospital.

At the hospital labs will be drawn to pinpoint what exactly was ingested and everything has an antidote.

So basically I do something in the medical realms and had a few attempts myself. I understand suicide and I hope we all go in peace BUT I have a job to do. I won't risk everything I worked hard for just to accommodate your decision. My best advice is do not call 911! Once that call is placed, we are coming. We aren't stupid, we can quickly figure out what happened.

 

[L'absent]

If you take a high dose of SN, like 25g, the situation is really serious, and time becomes everything. In theory, if help arrives within 10-20 minutes, they might still have a chance to intervene, but it depends on how quickly they can administer the antidote (like methylene blue) to stop the effects of the nitrite. If more than 30 minutes have passed or the situation is already severe, the chances of survival decrease significantly.
Every minute that passes makes things worse, so it really depends on how quickly you're found and treated. If help arrives in time, there's a chance of survival, but it's never 100% guaranteed.

 

[dontwakemeup]

If you take a high dose of SN, like 25g, the situation is really serious, and time becomes everything. In theory, if help arrives within 10-20 minutes, they might still have a chance to intervene, but it depends on how quickly they can administer the antidote (like methylene blue) to stop the effects of the nitrite. If more than 30 minutes have passed or the situation is already severe, the chances of survival decrease significantly.
Every minute that passes makes things worse, so it really depends on how quickly you're found and treated. If help arrives in time, there's a chance of survival, but it's never 100% guaranteed.

And you may become a vegetable on life support. The hope is you ultimately die, but sometimes it can take time for all your organs to die. I had someone survive a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. He was paralyzed from the waste down. That would be my biggest fear.

 

[L'absent]

And you may become a vegetable on life support. The hope is you ultimately die, but sometimes it can take time for all your organs to die. I had someone survive a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. He was paralyzed from the waste down. That would be my biggest fear.

He probably didn't know how to use weapons. Is the gun your method? Is that why you're afraid?

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

This is why I'm dying in the late evening with no one knowing so I can have a peaceful death before the hours gone by, not contacting anyone and leaving the doors looked as frock, while peacefully letting my body decay before the hours gone by and anyone reaches more corpse. Before then, they can't do anything but accept I'm dead.

It depends on a variety of factors. How much you took, how big you are, how much remained in your system, how quickly they were able to get you to the hospital and administer treatment, time from dosage to treatment, etc. It also varies how quickly they'll be able to identify what you took if you don't tell them. Regardless, people have CTBed after calling for help and people have survived without calling for help. It's hard to say with any certainty what's going to happen

What if medication don't work that well for them? I know some people who were either death related away from CTB and SI and CTB, yet they couldn't receive medication they inject into their system because it already surpassed them by the time they could get intervention and died on the spot. Those who were CTB were risking life though as the paramedics weren't as co-op with their choices and judging them I'll manuringly that they were more hesitant to even operate on them and made 'accidents' happen that made them succeed in their CTB even though they were rushed and found immediately.

 

[dontwakemeup]

He probably didn't know how to use weapons. Is the gun your method? Is that why you're afraid?

My method has always been pills. If this site existed years ago I could have saved myself a lot of troubles.

 

[Wonhun]

And you may become a vegetable on life support. The hope is you ultimately die, but sometimes it can take time for all your organs to die. I had someone survive a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. He was paralyzed from the waste down. That would be my biggest fear.

stop spreading fake news

 

[neenie]

Identifying SN poisoning tends to be relatively long as you'll first be given oxygen in multiple ways in the ambulance and in the ER, then the medical staff has to test blood gases, wait for results and finally administer methylene blue. Though the SN poisoning identification can be quicker if the staff has already faced such cases or is informed about SN