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No More Tears

No More Tears

I'm tired of missing the bus.
Jul 26, 2024
91
This is my time line from beginning to end, when I was "saved". Times may be off because as my condition worsened, my timing became a mess. I do know(I think) that the situation ended somewhere near the end of April.

Please note that not everyone will have the same outcome, nor will all results be the same. Your age, health condition, and weight will make factors different for everyone. It also takes a lot of willpower to not eat, and I couldn't tell you how many times I almost lost.

Voluntary Stop Eating and Drinking(VSED) means exactly that. Except in my case, I just chose not to eat, as I have read about how painful it can be without liquid, so I went with the liquid only routine. Although drinking just water can make you survive longer, no food intake can have consequences. By just liquid, it can take upwards of 2 to 3 months ( again, it depends on age, overall health, and your weight), but for some people, it could be less, could be more. I was also hiking day after day, up and down hills, so I'm sure that didn't help with all the calories I was burning up. During this entire attempt, I was in the woods.

I will skip the days as to keep this read shorter.

Week one(beginning of March): Started the no eating attempt, and started hiking on a trail(a very long trail). Stomach mad and growling because it wants food, water helped the pain subside.

Week two: Still moving along fairly well on the trail, but hunger pains are starting to hit the stomach.

Week three: The pains intensified causing cramping and severe pain, but by end of week, the pains have reduced to a dull pain. Came to a road crossing, stopped at a store and got cigarettes and a bottle. Continued hiking for about 6 miles and stopped, as this is where I planned to let VSED do it's thing.

Week four: If the pain was still there, it no longer bothered me. Was also losing weight as I had to keep pulling pants up. Several times through the next few weeks, other hikers would come by, and when they cooked their food, the smell had me feeling nauseated.

Week five: Really starting to feel the effects. Head hurting, I was pale(according to some hikers, but I passed it off that I wasn't feeling good). Was also starting to see things that weren't there. I was miserable as hell, didn't want to move. Just wanted to lay in sleeping bag and sleep all day. By the end of that week, I was starting to lose focus, and was losing the difference between fiction and reality.

Week six: I was in bad shape. I was having out loud conversations with someone who wasn't there(nobody was there). Everything around me felt like a dream. Everything around me wasn't real, to me I was just imagining everything I saw. Even though I was in this state, I still understood what I was there for, and planned to keep it.

I'm completely lost from here on out(at least for 2 weeks). I don't know days, or times. It's all blank, and I'm sure all the whiskey I had been drinking, didn't help. Week seven(or whereabouts) is when this came to an end.

Week seven: I was no longer me. I say this is because you know how when a kid pretends he's a plane, he spreads his arms and pretends he's flying? I don't know if I really did that, or if I was dreaming, but for some reason, I'm convinced I actually did it.

At some point during this week, I got out of my sleeping bag, hiked back to that grocery store. The next thing I know, I open my eyes, I was laying in a hospital bed. I remember none of this, the getting up, the hiking, being at a store, or coming to the hospital.

I had IVs in my arms, wires on my chest, and a hose up my nose. A nurse came in a short time later and says she will let doctor know I'm awake.

When the doctor gets in there, he says he doesn't even understand why I'm still alive, and he didn't expect me to pull through. I had been in the hospital for a week and a half, and they kept me under anesthesia to give my body time to heal.

I was told that while I was at the store, I dropped to the floor and was not breathing. Someone did CPR on me and I started breathing again on my own, then was transported to the hospital.

My insides, liver, kidneys, stomach, and intestines were on the verge of destruction. He said had it not been for the person giving me CPR, I would have been gone, then said I should be gone, and he doesn't know how I pulled out of it. He says for me not to expect my body to fully recover. He also asked about my eating habits, I lied and said that I had eaten, but I was sick for a few days and was throwing up what I ate. I don't know if he believed it considering how messed up I was.

I spent two more weeks in the hospital, with several weeks in a rehab(nursing home basically). I'm not 100 percent better, but for now health wise, I'm ok.

I look back on that trip, and it feels like it never happened, like it was a bad dream.

Would I attempt this route again? You're damn right I would. The reason being is because once I got into that trance to where I couldn't tell the difference between fiction and reality, I felt like I was trapped between two worlds, and in that spot between the two, I was at peace.

In my opinion, had I stayed on that trail, I would have successfully succeeded.
 
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dolemitedrums

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Jun 12, 2024
449
Pretty impressive display of willpower. And in the end...the mind and body find a way to thwart this kind of plan.
 
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Themogger

Themogger

Why so serious?
Jul 23, 2024
241
This is my time line from beginning to end, when I was "saved". Times may be off because as my condition worsened, my timing became a mess. I do know(I think) that the situation ended somewhere near the end of April.

Please note that not everyone will have the same outcome, nor will all results be the same. Your age, health condition, and weight will make factors different for everyone. It also takes a lot of willpower to not eat, and I couldn't tell you how many times I almost lost.

Voluntary Stop Eating and Drinking(VSED) means exactly that. Except in my case, I just chose not to eat, as I have read about how painful it can be without liquid, so I went with the liquid only routine. Although drinking just water can make you survive longer, no food intake can have consequences. By just liquid, it can take upwards of 2 to 3 months ( again, it depends on age, overall health, and your weight), but for some people, it could be less, could be more. I was also hiking day after day, up and down hills, so I'm sure that didn't help with all the calories I was burning up. During this entire attempt, I was in the woods.

I will skip the days as to keep this read shorter.

Week one(beginning of March): Started the no eating attempt, and started hiking on a trail(a very long trail). Stomach mad and growling because it wants food, water helped the pain subside.

Week two: Still moving along fairly well on the trail, but hunger pains are starting to hit the stomach.

Week three: The pains intensified causing cramping and severe pain, but by end of week, the pains have reduced to a dull pain. Came to a road crossing, stopped at a store and got cigarettes and a bottle. Continued hiking for about 6 miles and stopped, as this is where I planned to let VSED do it's thing.

Week four: If the pain was still there, it no longer bothered me. Was also losing weight as I had to keep pulling pants up. Several times through the next few weeks, other hikers would come by, and when they cooked their food, the smell had me feeling nauseated.

Week five: Really starting to feel the effects. Head hurting, I was pale(according to some hikers, but I passed it off that I wasn't feeling good). Was also starting to see things that weren't there. I was miserable as hell, didn't want to move. Just wanted to lay in sleeping bag and sleep all day. By the end of that week, I was starting to lose focus, and was losing the difference between fiction and reality.

Week six: I was in bad shape. I was having out loud conversations with someone who wasn't there(nobody was there). Everything around me felt like a dream. Everything around me wasn't real, to me I was just imagining everything I saw. Even though I was in this state, I still understood what I was there for, and planned to keep it.

I'm completely lost from here on out(at least for 2 weeks). I don't know days, or times. It's all blank, and I'm sure all the whiskey I had been drinking, didn't help. Week seven(or whereabouts) is when this came to an end.

Week seven: I was no longer me. I say this is because you know how when a kid pretends he's a plane, he spreads his arms and pretends he's flying? I don't know if I really did that, or if I was dreaming, but for some reason, I'm convinced I actually did it.

At some point during this week, I got out of my sleeping bag, hiked back to that grocery store. The next thing I know, I open my eyes, I was laying in a hospital bed. I remember none of this, the getting up, the hiking, being at a store, or coming to the hospital.

I had IVs in my arms, wires on my chest, and a hose up my nose. A nurse came in a short time later and says she will let doctor know I'm awake.

When the doctor gets in there, he says he doesn't even understand why I'm still alive, and he didn't expect me to pull through. I had been in the hospital for a week and a half, and they kept me under anesthesia to give my body time to heal.

I was told that while I was at the store, I dropped to the floor and was not breathing. Someone did CPR on me and I started breathing again on my own, then was transported to the hospital.

My insides, liver, kidneys, stomach, and intestines were on the verge of destruction. He said had it not been for the person giving me CPR, I would have been gone, then said I should be gone, and he doesn't know how I pulled out of it. He says for me not to expect my body to fully recover. He also asked about my eating habits, I lied and said that I had eaten, but I was sick for a few days and was throwing up what I ate. I don't know if he believed it considering how messed up I was.

I spent two more weeks in the hospital, with several weeks in a rehab(nursing home basically). I'm not 100 percent better, but for now health wise, I'm ok.

I look back on that trip, and it feels like it never happened, like it was a bad dream.

Would I attempt this route again? You're damn right I would. The reason being is because once I got into that trance to where I couldn't tell the difference between fiction and reality, I felt like I was trapped between two worlds, and in that spot between the two, I was at peace.

In my opinion, had I stayed on that trail, I would have successfully succeeded.
Holy crap, that's incredible. In another life, you probably would've been a monk or something
 
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Raven2

Raven2

Specialist
Dec 1, 2022
366
Wow, I cant believe you managed vsed for so long.
 
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Beyond_Repair

Beyond_Repair

Disheartened Ghost
Oct 27, 2023
452
Thank you for documenting your experience. I'm sure this will be helpful for anyone contemplating VSED route
 
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No More Tears

I'm tired of missing the bus.
Jul 26, 2024
91
Wow, I cant believe you managed vsed for so long.
I read it would take 2 to 3 months by water only and no food. I just underestimated how delusional you become after so long.
 
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opheliaoveragain

Eating Disordered Junkie
Jun 2, 2024
1,434
Thank you for documenting your experience. You're strong as fuck.
 
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smaragdyne

smaragdyne

Member
Jul 21, 2024
62
Awesome story, thank you for sharing in such detail. I fast sometimes for inflammation issues, but weeks? Damn. Respect and thanks.
 
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Hotsackage

Enlightened
Mar 11, 2019
1,045
I mean my dad went this route earlier this year, by choice or not I have no idea, he was pretty sick. Takes a lot of willpower, I'm sorry you haven't found peace. And to whoever is reading this thread, the shit people are putting themselves through to get some sort relief of suffering, is horrific. But normies live In the garden of eden or in some sort of enlightened state where all is well, and are in denial.
 
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Kali_Yuga13

Experienced
Jul 11, 2024
279
What were the temperatures and climate you were in?

How did the whiskey hit with no food for so long? I'd be swooning.

I tried VSED many years ago, I didn't get as far as you but I remember my spirit feeling like it was unshackling from my body when laying in bed, not quite looking down at my body like a NDE but on the way. I also had a vivid dream of "being" a star at the far reaches of the solar system sort of like you feeling like an airplane.
 
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LunarLight

i'm a loser, a failure
Apr 3, 2024
1,374
Incredible story. How impressive. You have all my respect.
 
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mistymoo

Im going to be apart of the 27 club
May 30, 2024
148
Your willpower is impressive!

I tried this in highschool and ended up discovering i had hypoglycemia :(
I only made it 2 or 3 days before I fainted in public. I was taken to the hospital and given an IV. Each time I've attempted since I have another fainting spell
 
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Unspoken7612

Specialist
Jul 14, 2024
369
Jesus. As others have said, real willpower. I guess it is easier when you're somewhere without immediate access to food.

Hope you have a full recovery so more people can hear this story.
 
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No More Tears

I'm tired of missing the bus.
Jul 26, 2024
91
What were the temperatures and climate you were in?

How did the whiskey hit with no food for so long? I'd be swooning.

I tried VSED many years ago, I didn't get as far as you but I remember my spirit feeling like it was unshackling from my body when laying in bed, not quite looking down at my body like a NDE but on the way. I also had a vivid dream of "being" a star at the far reaches of the solar system sort of like you feeling like an airplane.
It was beginning of March and the nights were still cold as hell, the days warmed up a little bit. By April, it was warming up slowly, but nowhere near as it was when I started.

With no food, it wasn't taking long for the alcohol to have me feeling pretty good. I am usually alcohol tolerant, but damn, not those times!

Yea, feeling like you are no longer in your own body is a crazy feeling. You no longer feel pain or suffering, and you're just floating so to speak.
Your willpower is impressive!

I tried this in highschool and ended up discovering i had hypoglycemia :(
I only made it 2 or 3 days before I fainted in public. I was taken to the hospital and given an IV. Each time I've attempted since I have another fainting spell
I'm sorry. I know that sucks. There had been more than one occasion where I felt like I was going to pass out, more so while hiking up them hills, and the days were a little warmer.
Wow, I cant believe you managed vsed for so long.
Honestly, when I started, I didn't expect to go as long as I did. I had guessed I would given up within a week and went straight to an all you can eat buffet. 😂
 
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Readytogo246

Student
Jun 4, 2023
198
I read it would take 2 to 3 months by water only and no food. I just underestimated how delusional you become after so long.
My parents did VSED and without any water at all they both passed at 7 days.
 
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No More Tears

I'm tired of missing the bus.
Jul 26, 2024
91
My parents did VSED and without any water at all they both passed at 7 days.
Yea, no water takes a faster run at death than no food. If you don't mind me asking, did they have any health issues?
 
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Readytogo246

Student
Jun 4, 2023
198
No they were just old in their 80's
 
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WearyWanderer

Student
Nov 3, 2019
142
Your willpower is impressive!

I tried this in highschool and ended up discovering i had hypoglycemia :(
I only made it 2 or 3 days before I fainted in public. I was taken to the hospital and given an IV. Each time I've attempted since I have another fainting spell
Oh no I think I havd hypoglycemia also 😭 Does this affect ability to do VSED even if you're with hospice does anyone know??
 
mistymoo

mistymoo

Im going to be apart of the 27 club
May 30, 2024
148
Oh no I think I havd hypoglycemia also 😭 Does this affect ability to do VSED even if you're with hospice does anyone know??
I would assume but I can't say for sure about hospice. If you're able to pull this off with hypoglycemia I THINK it might be quicker? My issue was the forced IV.
 
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Old

Student
Apr 25, 2024
115
This is probably the way I'm gonna go if I decide to ctb. As long as I'm alone, I'll probably stay home all the time and let nature do its job. Quite some animals die like this. They just refuse to eat or drink, may feel like shit, but prolly not as bad as other methods.

However this seems like a method one takes ONLY if one is 100% sure they want to ctb as it could leave damages to the body. Thank you for sharing your story.
 
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martinso67

All human rights are important
Feb 5, 2021
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Tried that when I had covid. But I stopped drinking as well. The first 2 days were hard. But then I got used to it and felt no hunger. Was only tired. I had also symptoms where I see stuff that I did not see. It did make my throat pain worse.
I got emotionally very unstable and felt like I am dreaming. I felt like a ghost.
Day 3: I could not really sleep anymore. I dooze of for 20-30 minutes at night. That's it. Now I got high blood pressure, which shows in blurry vision symptoms.
I felt pain in my muscles and started to be somewhat emotionally unstable. Crying but without tears.
About day 5 or 6? I CAN'T remember. Also memory and difference between day and night did suffer. I remember that I got like some feeling about my blood stream cycle feeling weird. And some feeling like mini stroke. Also I felt heat and cold waves through my body that are randomly changing.
Did visit a doctor and got medication immediately. General practicioner GP Said if I did not take the medication, then it would in a stroke.
Started then to drink after I used a artificial saliva (kind of moisterizer to help produce saliva) that I got prescribed by the GP.
I read in a book about VSED, this method, that recommends this artifical saliva spray for this method to lessen symptoms.

Now the aftermath I have ruined one teeth, it has a big cavaty. Blood pressure is now in control after usage of medication amlodipin against that.
 
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emptyenvelopes

Student
Jun 15, 2024
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The Wonder by Emma Donoghue really gives a pretty horrific yet vivid description of VSED because the main character chooses to do that. Worth the read to get a clear visual of what happens to the body.
 
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If I were to try this i would use a little meth to kill my appetite during the day. But not too much to cause insomnia and psychosis
 

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