I feel awful when I see newborns

[Papa Shinai]

I always think about how there was no need to bring anyone into this world in first place. I feel angry seeing parents proud like they did a good thing. They are not aware of the burden of life they're giving to their child. That child was already in peace but no, they must go through the hardships of life because life is so good and worth experiencing. What actually happens is they have been ripped off from the peaceful nonexistent state to go through this awful life.
I also really do not understand how they have children knowing life is hard and no one wins at the end.

 

[AlexYaBoy]

 

[1MiserableGuy]

The folly of your take is that it assumes that anyone has control over what kids they do and don't have (unless they do something permanent and regretable). It also assumes that everyone else is just as miserable as you are.

 

[Jorms_McGander]

I feel worse when I don't see them until after I've tripped though.

 

[Guy Smiley]

Kids are developing social media addiction so young these days. So sad.

 

[thenamingofcats]

They weren't at peace before conception since they didn't exist. Ironically peace is only something you can experience when you're alive, not before being or after death.

 

[Forever Sleep]

The folly of your take is that it assumes that anyone has control over what kids they do and don't have (unless they do something permanent and regretable). It also assumes that everyone else is just as miserable as you are.

I understand to an extent- fate is random. Poverty, genetically passed on health issues, even what we are good at genetically, location, whether you or a partner has abusive tendencies, whether parents are emotionally stable. All those factors are known. I wish people would think about what they know they are bringing their children in to. It's by no means random at all.

I'm so relieved I didn't have children. I think either they'd be unhappy now with the overly polite and submissive upbringing they would have gotten from me. Or, they'd be worried that I was unhappy perhaps. We'd end up worrying like mad about one another I imagine.

I used to feel devastated to see children starving in Africa and obviously- I still am. It's an appalling sight. But then- I have to think- if the parents are starving, how do they imagine they are going to feed their child or- multiple children? Do they just expect the rest of the world to take pity on them and give them charity? I know it's more complicated than that. Deeply held cultural and religious beliefs that having multiple children is the right thing to do- even if they suffer and die young. But honestly, I can't get my head around it.

I just feel worried for children these days but then, I know my view on life is pessimistic. I just hope for the best for them. 'Maybe they'll be ok.' That's my most optimistic hope. Maybe they will be. I guess it's still a minority who end up suicidal. Still, I don't know many people who are completely happy. Even the normies I know seem deeply unsatisfied with life. Personally, that seems like too much risk to inflict on a sentient being that wasn't given the choice but maybe my perspective is too negatively skewed to be fair.

 

[xinino]

Vomit, but somehow I like it, I love to be sick

 

[1MiserableGuy]

I understand to an extent- fate is random. Poverty, genetically passed on health issues, even what we are good at genetically, location, whether you or a partner has abusive tendencies, whether parents are emotionally stable. All those factors are known. I wish people would think about what they know they are bringing their children in to. It's by no means random at all.

I'm so relieved I didn't have children. I think either they'd be unhappy now with the overly polite and submissive upbringing they would have gotten from me. Or, they'd be worried that I was unhappy perhaps. We'd end up worrying like mad about one another I imagine.

I used to feel devastated to see children starving in Africa and obviously- I still am. It's an appalling sight. But then- I have to think- if the parents are starving, how do they imagine they are going to feed their child or- multiple children? Do they just expect the rest of the world to take pity on them and give them charity? I know it's more complicated than that. Deeply held cultural and religious beliefs that having multiple children is the right thing to do- even if they suffer and die young. But honestly, I can't get my head around it.

I just feel worried for children these days but then, I know my view on life is pessimistic. I just hope for the best for them. 'Maybe they'll be ok.' That's my most optimistic hope. Maybe they will be. I guess it's still a minority who end up suicidal. Still, I don't know many people who are completely happy. Even the normies I know seem deeply unsatisfied with life. Personally, that seems like too much risk to inflict on a sentient being that wasn't given the choice but maybe my perspective is too negatively skewed to be fair.

I had an unplanned kid during a time in my life when I was at my lowest low and attempted ctb (with little to no ctb education) multiple times. My wife had an IUD in—the odds of pregnancy with an IUD are less than one in ten thousand. My wife intentionally didn't test because at the time she knew I never wanted kids and thought it would be the nail in my coffin. Ultimately, my son became my only reason left to live. Still can't stand other people's kids though, funny enough.

We have tried again and again on purpose ever since, finally got pregnant again after over a year of trying, and lost it to miscarriage. That was painful, after having already learned the joy of having a child.

It's beyond control, and something you just have to come to terms with whatever outcome you may have.

 

[FuneralCry]

Procreation truly is the most terrible, horrific tragedy, it disturbs me how humans procreate even know nobody can suffer from never existing at all with their being no need for existence in the first place. I wish I never existed more than anything, it truly is so immensely hellish to impose decades of meaningless suffering onto others, all that procreation ever causes is immense harm, in fact it's beyond unacceptable in every way.

 

[Adûnâi]

First of all, most people don't suffer, they don't have brains anyway. So it's fine.

Second, I do agree that having kids is worse than paedophilia, because at least the paedophile gets to be happy.

 

[Meteora]

I understand what you re saying and I agree.
Not all babies face an unloving and unhappy childhood, though.
Personally, I love to observe babies. I think they are so "perfect".