Discussion I HATE christians and I'm not sorry.

[illvoid]

Christianity is not a religious belief anymore, it is a hate cult that preaches "love" and "acceptance" while demonstrating the opposite. If someone tells me they are a Christian or mentions god to me, I will no longer speak with them. You don't get to be part of a hate group while being part of my life. As a trans person I feel immediately unsafe when someone claims to be a Christian or follow any Abrahamic religion for that matter. When you see what has been done to America's legal system (which blatantly calls for a separation of church and state) in the name of "God", it's hard not to feel that way. God and the Bible have been used as justifications for hate for so long that "Love thy neighbor" has been reduced to an actual fucking joke. I'm apparently hateful for hating them BACK. I've been told numerous times by self-proclaimed christians that I WILL be tortured for eternity because of who I am. I believe the first instance of this was a full grown adult telling me I would go to hell because my parents were not Baptists. I was about 9 or 10. After that, from age 14 onward, it was pretty much always because I'm transgender. I'm "an abomination", I have "thrown away the body that god gave me", I am "unable to be saved at this point", I am "perverted", I will "never see the pearly gates" since i've "desecrated myself", I have been "tainted by the devil". These are all real things I was told by Christians before I was even 18 years old. When I was a CHILD. They truly believe it's okay to harass and outcast a child because they're not like them. I have genuinely no respect for any person who calls themselves a Christian anymore, that's been ruined for me.

 

[schrei_nach_liebe]

Yeah, I agree. I find one of the abrahamic religions to not be as repulsive to me because the followers don't follow it that closely, in general. But when followed closely, almost as repulsive as the other two. Monotheistic religious crap makes me nauseous when people are performative about it and endlessly verbalize bless this Jesus that allah this inshallah that. There's a lot to hate about the polytheistic ones too, but I guess it feels less bad to me to put your eggs in a bunch of baskets rather than all in one basket.

 

[Pluto]

 

[heavyeyes]

Valid

 

[ijustwishtodie]

This is like me but for islam instead of christianity

 

[shrobae]

Christianity is not a religious belief anymore, it is a hate cult that preaches "love" and "acceptance" while demonstrating the opposite. If someone tells me they are a Christian or mentions god to me, I will no longer speak with them. You don't get to be part of a hate group while being part of my life. As a trans person I feel immediately unsafe when someone claims to be a Christian or follow any Abrahamic religion for that matter. When you see what has been done to America's legal system (which blatantly calls for a separation of church and state) in the name of "God", it's hard not to feel that way. God and the Bible have been used as justifications for hate for so long that "Love thy neighbor" has been reduced to an actual fucking joke. I'm apparently hateful for hating them BACK. I've been told numerous times by self-proclaimed christians that I WILL be tortured for eternity because of who I am. I believe the first instance of this was a full grown adult telling me I would go to hell because my parents were not Baptists. I was about 9 or 10. After that, from age 14 onward, it was pretty much always because I'm transgender. I'm "an abomination", I have "thrown away the body that god gave me", I am "unable to be saved at this point", I am "perverted", I will "never see the pearly gates" since i've "desecrated myself", I have been "tainted by the devil". These are all real things I was told by Christians before I was even 18 years old. When I was a CHILD. They truly believe it's okay to harass and outcast a child because they're not like them. I have genuinely no respect for any person who calls themselves a Christian anymore, that's been ruined for me.

well i dont hate you, im sorry you feel that way though. blanket statements are never right

 

[IQLESS]

Well, I think there is nothing to not understand about what you said. It makes sense you feel that way and I won't argue that the majority of Christians aren't even really 'Christians'. As a former conservative Christian I am incredibly sorry you were told these things like this. I think however It's still important to differentiate Christians from the actual faith/teachings themselves, however I'm sure that many would disagree with the teachings too which is a fair point now because I don't believe anymore either, that more due to the fact that there hasn't been enough evidence to support the reality of who Christ supposedly was. To my knowledge there is nothing taught by Christ that says to discriminate between 'sins' or judge anyone for that matter, that's the whole point, that we as humans are all corrupt to an extent and do not possess the capability to properly judge and that, as the saying goes why do we look at the sawdust in our brother's eye and not pay attention to the log in our own eyes. Also no Christian is better than a non-Christian either, again in the Christian perspective all people fall short of the glory of God, that's the whole point of Christ, God wouldn't leave us because he already knows that we can't do better and that's fine. Anyways enough yapping about that, I don't blame you for hating Christians. As for me personally a part of why I'm leaving this earth is because God doesn't exist. This is contrary to what the majority of people believe, but I think I'm entitled to have an opinion and I miss knowing an all-loving God, for there is no point in living in misery and suffering for absolutely nothing. Life is meaningless and I'm not here to humor the cruelty of life's misery and suffering for nothing, I'd rather take my leave.
I'm sorry for what you have been through and you deserve to really be loved, after everything all of us are just a bunch of peas in a pod, struggling and trying to make sense of this cruel reality that we live in. Hoping all the best for you, illvoid!

 

[lxci]

Christianity is not a religious belief anymore, it is a hate cult that preaches "love" and "acceptance" while demonstrating the opposite. If someone tells me they are a Christian or mentions god to me, I will no longer speak with them. You don't get to be part of a hate group while being part of my life. As a trans person I feel immediately unsafe when someone claims to be a Christian or follow any Abrahamic religion for that matter. When you see what has been done to America's legal system (which blatantly calls for a separation of church and state) in the name of "God", it's hard not to feel that way. God and the Bible have been used as justifications for hate for so long that "Love thy neighbor" has been reduced to an actual fucking joke. I'm apparently hateful for hating them BACK. I've been told numerous times by self-proclaimed christians that I WILL be tortured for eternity because of who I am. I believe the first instance of this was a full grown adult telling me I would go to hell because my parents were not Baptists. I was about 9 or 10. After that, from age 14 onward, it was pretty much always because I'm transgender. I'm "an abomination", I have "thrown away the body that god gave me", I am "unable to be saved at this point", I am "perverted", I will "never see the pearly gates" since i've "desecrated myself", I have been "tainted by the devil". These are all real things I was told by Christians before I was even 18 years old. When I was a CHILD. They truly believe it's okay to harass and outcast a child because they're not like them. I have genuinely no respect for any person who calls themselves a Christian anymore, that's been ruined for me.

Based

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I feel like if Jesus was anything like he was in the Bible (and wasn't just a cult leader) and he were to one day come back, I bet your ass that most Christians would hate his guts. While there are Christians out there who genuinely seem to practice what they preach, a lot of them hide their hatred and bigotry behind their beliefs. A lot of Christians in places like the US and even Canada (to a slightly lesser extent) have a prosecution complex, fetishizing the idea of being a part of an oppressed religious class, when in reality they are the ones in power. They are the true oppressors. They perpetuate the most hate towards those around them. I'm not a fan of Abrahamic religions in general. I feel like they just do more harm than good, especially nowadays. They are just tools used to control the masses and uphold certain power structures. That's been the case in the past and it's still the case today. There is a reason why a lot of misogynists, racists, homophobes, transphobes, and those who lean more right have real boners for religions like Christianity.

 

[summa_tyme2224]

100% agree.

 

[SmallKoy]

I don't *hate* Christians, but I definitely have had a lot of very negative experiences with very devout Christians. My boyfriend is Christian but he doesn't really practice all that much. He just believes in afterlife and God pretty much. A lot of Christians wouldn't even call that being a Christian.

 

[pyx]

i am an atheistic christian in spirit but i can sort of understand, since i have a distaste for evangelical dogmatism

 

[uglyugly]

(Note: nothing in this reply is intended to offend anyone at all.) I don't hate Christians even though I am not religious at all. What I hate is the behavior of some (not all!) Christians, but for that matter, other religions pull plenty of crap, too. I hate "bible bangers" that are forever preaching to me about Jesus and burning in hell and blah blah blah.. I don't give a darn about who Jesus was, if he even existed, and I sure as hell am not planning on kissing his butt. I find the bible illogical and contradictory and I simply cannot see anything positive about it. I see Christian holidays that were completely stolen from pagan traditions and that, for some reason, pisses me off. If there is a creator of the universe, I have respect for its handiwork, but I will never grovel in front of a deity. I spent my entire childhood kissing my abuser's ass so he would not hurt me (he did anyhow) and I'll be damned if I spend my entire adulthood kissing some deity's ass so it does not hurt me. I find no function in religion other than to control the masses.

All this being said, I have many friend-coworkers who are Christian and so long as they don't preach at me (only one does), I get along just fine with them. I think those particular Christians are good people.

 

[cantThinkOfName]

Religion are just a collection of beliefs and traditions. They can change to be as cruel or kind as religious people want to be. It's the people who are cruel and sick. It wouldn't matter what the Religion was, these people would use it and twist or abandon it in favor of one that justifies their cruelty. Religion is just one of the many excuses people have used to be dicks, with no Religion, they'd just use another excuse.

 

[(in)sane]

If we're talking Christianity as a whole, hell even religion as a whole, I completely agree. It's one of those stupid things humanity will repeat over and over again without ever learning from the past. But one thing I just wanna say is, religious people don't equal religious people. If you ask me, I'm Muslim. It's the religion I grew up with so I call it that, but in reality I just believe that God exists. I don't believe in these stupid rules obviously made by men to control women. I would never ever even think of forcing my beliefs onto others. As a personal belief, religion is awesome and some people even find a reason to live in religion and that is great for them. But religious communities, religious COUNTRIES, HELL FUCKING NO. that shit should be banned. The amount of people who live with religious trauma isn't worth the people who find peace in religion. Also being gay or trans is not a sin and if anyone wants me to think otherwise I'll need a personal meeting with God so he can say that to my face. I don't believe God would give a shit about what gender you kiss or identify as because let's be fucking for real we live in a world with bigger problems why would he care?? I believe he has more important things to attend to. You're not harming anyone and if it is a sin which would be WILD its between you and god. No one's fucking business I'm sure God is up there yelling at them to stfu

 

[illvoid]

I feel the need to elaborate on this now that I'm not in an emotional state; my issue with Christians and followers of organized religion as individuals is that their moral compass is entirely reliant on an external force. Sure, there are plenty of Christians who were truly taught to be good people and reflect that in their daily life, but the fact is if they had been introduced to a different church first that had taught something else, they would have internalized those values instead. It's almost as if by believing that morality only exists through God, it becomes reality for them. This is why many Christians do not understand the concept of subjective morality, despite experiencing it firsthand. Their morals are centered around what someone else told them God said, which opens the door for entire communities to be converted into hateful people. I've personally always found my moral compass to be something that is innate to me, and I know plenty of other people have the same experience. This being mine, I am fearful of someone who doesn't inherently know simple, human facts of life like "murder is wrong" or "discrimination is bad", and looks to a higher power to tell them right from wrong.

 

[N7_Alliance_Marine]

Islam is worse.

 

[vampire2002]

my family has been irreversibly damaged by christianity. the only christian i like is my mormon grandma, who is a wonderfully kind and intelligent person, a former university professor. but even she takes religion with a grain of salt, telling me she believes in evolution, but i can't tell anyone that or else her friends from church wouldn't speak to her anymore. but even then, i do feel like she has been brainwashed into believing in christianity, as that's what she grew up in. i think she is exceptionally accepting of people who are different, in a way that is different from most other christians, at least mormons, as that's most christians where i live

my family was in the flds cult for many generations. i was never in it, as my mom's immediate family left before i was born, but we still have many relatives still in it. it's spawned so much hatred, bigotry, mental illness, drug addiction, all types of abuse, especially of women and children.

i hate people who use "religious freedom" as an excuse to oppress others, and act like we're just supposed to accept that as outsiders and stand by and watch it happen. i hate most religions, not just christianity. i used to cry to god as a child, wondering what i had done wrong to deserve my fate.

 

[tpboy]

don't hate the people hate the religion.

 

[EmptyCurtainCall]

and what if i told you this was correct

 

[Winterreise]

Islam is worse.

They use different bullets
Christianity is 1% faith, 99 % rituals.

 

[ZeroM24]

I support this, but why only christians? Every religion is a cult, every single one, because by definition none of them are proven to be real, its all fairy tales for "adult" people and schizos.

 

[illvoid]

I support this, but why only christians? Every religion is a cult, every single one, because by definition none of them are proven to be real, its all fairy tales for "adult" people and schizos.

I don't ONLY feel this way about Christians, I'm just American & most familiar with their specific brand of indoctrination. I'm also a former Jehovah's Witness, which is not quite Christianity but it isn't really its own thing either. I can't say I support any organized religion, they all have the same end goal of converting as many people as possible with zero regard for the consequences. It's so clearly profit-driven and predatory, and they'll make anyone a scapegoat to keep new members flowing into their institutions. It really is all the same.

 

[ALonelyFreak]

I live in Poland and we unfortunately have a problem with christianity.
What annoys me is that Christians don't care about the cool rules they only obey the bad ones. Like they are against divorces but they never help you.

 

[untothedepths]

if your religion isnt telling you to love one another, be honest, not greedy, and respect the earth, you religion probably doesnt mean much.

 

[mysideofthemountain]

Yeah fuck em
As a self serving aside I started a thread in this sub forum today titled church and state because of how mad I am at Christians

 

[diseasedPOS]

Let's get the cards out on the table here. Specific to Christianity, as I, like OP, have most experience with that particular version of manipulation.

Now, what we are led to believe we have here is a fella who created everybody and everything, and did so out of love. He wanted the free-willing of those creations to spend their existence singing praises to his greatness. What a narcissist. Incredibly, if you don't participate in fellating his ego, he'll set you on fire for the rest of eternity. What an egotistical asshole!

One guy thought so, too, and he was told he wasn't allowed to the toga bloviation sessions anymore. He left and built his own place where anyone was welcome AND they could do whatever they want. The worst of humanity often has roots in religious justification, making religion the root of the most evil in comparison to any other contributing factor. In other words, it's the biggest single contributor to evil in the world.

That said, since most people aren't inherently bad, especially those who aren't obsessed with an asshole that lives in the sky, this salacious melting pot of commoners has become a beautiful tapestry of souls living, loving, learning, and having a good time. Ok, there are vagabonds and miscreants, too. But the alternative, again, is to serve someone who loves you so much he'll set you on fire for not falling on your face every time you hear his name.

"Shikaka!"

Choice of where to go is pretty clear, isn't it?

 

[peaches]

Christianity is not a religious belief anymore, it is a hate cult that preaches "love" and "acceptance" while demonstrating the opposite. If someone tells me they are a Christian or mentions god to me, I will no longer speak with them. You don't get to be part of a hate group while being part of my life. As a trans person I feel immediately unsafe when someone claims to be a Christian or follow any Abrahamic religion for that matter. When you see what has been done to America's legal system (which blatantly calls for a separation of church and state) in the name of "God", it's hard not to feel that way. God and the Bible have been used as justifications for hate for so long that "Love thy neighbor" has been reduced to an actual fucking joke. I'm apparently hateful for hating them BACK. I've been told numerous times by self-proclaimed christians that I WILL be tortured for eternity because of who I am. I believe the first instance of this was a full grown adult telling me I would go to hell because my parents were not Baptists. I was about 9 or 10. After that, from age 14 onward, it was pretty much always because I'm transgender. I'm "an abomination", I have "thrown away the body that god gave me", I am "unable to be saved at this point", I am "perverted", I will "never see the pearly gates" since i've "desecrated myself", I have been "tainted by the devil". These are all real things I was told by Christians before I was even 18 years old. When I was a CHILD. They truly believe it's okay to harass and outcast a child because they're not like them. I have genuinely no respect for any person who calls themselves a Christian anymore, that's been ruined for me.

Thank you for your post. I completely agree with you. I'm not and never was in any way Christian or any religion, but I see organized religion as a form of child abuse and a delusional dangerous cult.

Stay as far away from people who proclaim to be members of this cult and unfortunately, it's infiltrated government, schools, sports, hobbies, neighborhoods, tech companies, and I find it all to be complete idiocy.
Fairytales for adults who are afraid of dying. Well, everybody is afraid of dying and it's going to happen to everyone and some cult it's trying to guarantee an after life if you learn to hate as much as they teach you to hate.

 

[Trex]

My relationship with my mother is spoilt because I became a hindu and she is a Pentecost, finding me as heretic

 

[SilentSadness]

The people who are the most religious, preach the most about love and acceptance, are always the worst, most obnoxious, hateful and judgemental. They'll say to be nice to people around you then ignore your problems and gaslight you. They'll talk about doing the right thing and then justify total selfishness. They will take whatever verse in their stupid books fits their view and twist it to justify their concealed hatred of those who are unhappy.