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Reflection

Reflection

Thank goodness for the good souls
Sep 12, 2024
397
I always wonder how the fuck do people believe in this piece of crap religion, and worse yet, why are a lot of people outside of it are accepting of it when it should be condemned, banned ,whatever...
It's a religion whose founder is an "insert every single horrible thing".

-This fucking piece of shit permits raping little kids, and did rape one himself.
-He permits marital rape, since if a woman doesn't consent to sex with her husband if she doesn't feel like it then she gets emotionally blackmailed into thinking that angels will curse her if she doesn't comply.
-He permits slavery, and consequently raping slave girls which are either bought or taken from wars.
- He commands people to kill apostates.
-He cheats on his wife with a slave girl then has "Allah" justify it and even worse, make it so that the wife is in the wrong for being mad at him, promising him better replacements and prohibiting his wives from ever remarrying if he divorces them or dies because that would "hurt his feelings"

How could anybody with one braincel look at this shit and still believe in it, or defend it? It's beyond sickening, if this fucker lived today then he should be locked behind bars for life, yet here he is with millions of followers around the world, and even more more apologists singing his praises like he's some kind of saint.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

I have finally found my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
5,801
This is what I don't understand either. I'm an ex muslim and I think that the only miracle that muhammad did is somehow managing to get 2 billion people right now to basically worship him despite him being a pedo. It really goes to show that humans aren't logical species but rather a species that will believe a lie if it gets repeated for long enough. I think that islam is the worst religion out of all the current abrahamic religions out there. I also think that islam is the second most socially accepted evil out there with the first socially accepted evil being the pro lifer beliefs
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
1,786
Former Christian here. I feel the same. Religion is just a bunch of made up stories used to control people. My thoughts:
-Love God (cool)
-Love people (great!)
-Just generally do not be an asshole (ok)
-Being meek is great! If your life is shit, just accept it because you will get a big, shiny reward when you die (wait, what?)
-Also give this physical institution money as a way to prove how thankful you are to a made-up diety (um?....)
-Also, if you are anything but cis-het, we hate you because you probably will not crank out a bunch of babies to brainwash into our beliefs so we can get money off of them (............)

Yeah. All religion is a joke.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
12,381
It's a kind of brainwashing and it's very effective. There's also a lot of hypocrisy but after someone is brainwashed they don't realise it anymore. "Leaving Islam" is also made impossible and a sin that is punishable by death and the death sentence is carried out by humans not by god himself?!

It*s a religion built on fear and manipulation to control the masses of people.
 
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anagram

Suicide: permanent solution to permanent problems
Feb 4, 2024
171
Nobody leaves islam they just hide their non belief in it. But yes islam is a pain in the ass and I've always felt an evil vibe when was sent to these weird islamic schools by parents.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
12,381
Nobody leaves islam they just hide their non belief in it.
Yeah, children who r born to a Muslim father are Muslims by birth ... they didn't even have a chance to decide whether they believe the same BS or not.
 
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anagram

Suicide: permanent solution to permanent problems
Feb 4, 2024
171
Yeah, children who r born to a Muslim father are Muslims by birth ... they didn't even have a chance to decide whether they believe the same BS or not.
yep it's tragic
I wish i was born to an atheistic family
Yeah, children who r born to a Muslim father are Muslims by birth ... they didn't even have a chance to decide whether they believe the same BS or not.
In 3rd world country islamic schools there are countless stories of physical assault, rape and abuse of kids but nobody speaks up about it. It's gut wrenching. People think that just because it's islamic they cant speak up against it. Parents are either so brainwashed that they accept it or that they're too scared to speak up.

There's even horrific videos of islamic teachers beating up like tiny little children it's insane. It was circulating around social media at one point like 5-10 years ago. Power tripping bastards. This is why I know religion is just a farce to fulfil the evil human ego.

I remember the first day i was sent to one of these islamic schools when young i was just crying by myself and then i forced my parents to pick me up and get me out.
 
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ebg

ebg

LOVE !
Sep 30, 2024
134
My professor for my electrical engineering course is a woman from Iran and I have much respect for her. I could tell that she had faced a lot of BS, like she was explaining to us the concept of passive vs active response in circuits and the first analogy she came up with was "if I am slapped, will I have a passive or an aggressive response?" she didn't expound on why she chose that analogy, it was likely just representational of what was on her mind (am not psychic). Also I think a lot of my classmates, because they didn't grow up in a very restrictive country, don't understand why there are events promoting the inclusion of women in STEM. "Well I don't see them being oppressed in our country." I also used to think that, but then I realized that if anyone ever hosted an inclusion of women in STEM event in certain countries, they'd probably get shunned or sent to prison. Like in Iran they now have a law where if a woman doesn't wear the hijab, they can face the death penalty. WTF
 
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Haematemesis

Haematemesis

Student
Jan 12, 2025
122
Hello. I like to share my experience with you people. I just joined this forum but have been reading it for a long time.

I am an ex-muslim. I was born in a somewhat religious family. I wasn't that extremist in the beginning but when I entered the Islamist echo chamber my world changed. This happened in 2019. I became highly antisocial (wasn't so social before then but it worsened + pandemic)

I avoided most of the "normal people" for years. I only befriended Islamists. I developed social anxiety. Especially towards women because it is a taboo to talk to them without a solid reason.

Happily I left this cult back in March 2024. I feel free and less burdened since then.

Thank you for reading.
 
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Buffy

Buffy

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Mar 17, 2024
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There's even horrific videos of islamic teachers beating up like tiny little children it's insane.
I saw that happen all the time at multiple Quran schools. I used to get beaten by my teachers when I was a kid, but those beatings were pretty mild from what I remember. They were nowhere near as bad as the little children who were beaten with thick plastic hoses and held down by other kids while the teacher hit them over and over again. And the parents would still send them back to the madrasa the next day, despite the visible marks on their bodies, no doubt.
 
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Suicide: permanent solution to permanent problems
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I saw that happen all the time at multiple Quran schools. I used to get beaten by my teachers when I was a kid, but those beatings were pretty mild from what I remember. They were nowhere near as bad as the little children who were beaten with thick plastic hoses and held down by other kids while the teacher hit them over and over again. And the parents would still send them back to the madrasa the next day, despite the visible marks on their bodies, no doubt.
The kinda stuff you described is why I would support antinatalism. Ignorance is suffering and ignorant people produce suffering. Some people should never be allowed to have children. "Social services" are also a joke and evil people can easily maneuver through them.
 
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penguinl0v3s

penguinl0v3s

Wait for Me 💙
Nov 1, 2023
804
Nowadays people just omit the parts of the religion that they don't like and pretend as if it weren't there, for the purpose of satisfying modern moral standards. It's like a denial.
 
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Adûnâi

Adûnâi

Little Russian in-cel
Apr 25, 2020
1,146
This is kind of cute. I don't see an issue with any of the practices you described. Don't get me wrong, I find them abhorrent in theory, but I also consider all live to be a vile waste of time, and ethically undefensible.

All life starts with rape because no human gives consent to be born.
All life starts with slavery because parents enslave you and fuck you (figuratively or literally).
All life is built on non-consensual violence and violation.

If anything, trying to remove male-on-female rape is anti-life - which I do support, but I'd go a step further, and daydream to devise a virus that would make everyone drop dead in an instant (and cover the planet in grey goo for good measure to prevent life ever rising again).

So meh. Get some perspective on things. Take it easy.

《If everything is shit, does it still smell?》© Adûnâi
 
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floofhook

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Sep 24, 2020
40
Islam is why I want to CTB. I'm so tired of pretending and conforming to its norms. When I lived in a secular country for a while I was actually happy, but now I'm back where I started and worse off..
 
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Pluto

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Adûnâi

Adûnâi

Little Russian in-cel
Apr 25, 2020
1,146
rofl~ It's even funnier because Muhammad ordered his followers to kill dogs too! xD
That's why I see people getting called "dog" in Mobile Legends.

(I have to confess I've always hated dogs, so I'd be a perfect Muslim. Oh wait, I can't convert because they demand ritual genital mutilation, sucks to be me.)
 
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daysnumbered

To be or not to be
Aug 21, 2024
58
Purity culture is toxic too. Sex is not shameful, but natural. Even after I became non religious, I still feel uncomfortable about sex. Abrahamic religions often use fear, like the concept of hell, so people do not deviate from their beliefs.
 
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deadzombie6

deadzombie6

Exhausted
Oct 15, 2024
56
I'm glad someone spoke up as someone who had their whole life ruined because of toxic muslim parents i understand what you mean . Religion sucks and their rules for women suck even more .
 
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pulse1

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Dec 31, 2024
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Purity culture is toxic too. Sex is not shameful, but natural. Even after I became non religious, I still feel uncomfortable about sex. Abrahamic religions often use fear, like the concept of hell, so people do not deviate from their beliefs.
Thank you for writing this. I guess I really needed to see it be said by someone else to really organize my thoughts on this..
 
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Gl1tch3d G1rl

Gl1tch3d G1rl

My mom must've had a virus coz I was born a glitch
Aug 10, 2021
1,317
Honestly, seeing this is a relief to me bc I've always disliked islam but never dared to speak up about it bc I've been too afraid to be labelled as discriminating. I will say though, it's the religion I dislike, not neccecerly the people in them selves. I've met met many muslim people who are great people. Personally, for majority of them I think they've been manipulated into thinking their religion is a good thing, when really it's not. I mean, keep in mind, many of them get told good things about the religion from birth so they don't know anything else. I mean, just look at the cults, the people there get manipulated into thinking things like abuse and sa is "ok" and maybe even "normal" by manipulative narcissists who plays "God" or what not. Can you really blame them? Personally I blame the psychopaths and narcissists who takes advantage of this, not the people.

Had no idea about the r*pe stuff btw, that's awful! I knew about child marriages though... 🤮
 
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fallingtopieces

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May 6, 2024
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Honestly, seeing this is a relief to me bc I've always disliked islam but never dared to speak up about it bc I've been too afraid to be labelled as discriminating. I will say though, it's the religion I dislike, not neccecerly the people in them selves. I've met met many muslim people who are great people. Personally, for majority of them I think they've been manipulated into thinking their religion is a good thing, when really it's not. I mean, keep in mind, many of them get told good things about the religion from birth so they don't know anything else. I mean, just look at the cults, the people there get manipulated into thinking things like abuse and sa is "ok" and maybe even "normal" by manipulative narcissists who plays "God" or what not. Can you really blame them? Personally I blame the psychopaths and narcissists who takes advantage of this, not the people.

Had no idea about the r*pe stuff btw, that's awful! I knew about child marriages though... 🤮
"However, child marriage remains legal in 37 states and is happening in the US at an alarming rate: Unchained's groundbreaking research revealed that more than 300,000 children as young as 10 were married in the US since 2000 - mostly girls wed to adult men."

The Bible allows for slavery.

The bible justifies marital rape.
The Bible contains many instances of physical, sexual, and religious violence against women in biblical narratives, legal materials and prophetic rhetoric. The most brutal cases of sexual violence in narratives are often used to indicate significant dysfunction in society. These narratives of violence also treat women as the property of men. While many legal texts protect the rights of women, there are many laws that promote violence and blame the victim.

Every orthodox religion has women subdued and subservient, certainly the abrahamic ones. But is there any religion where women were in positions of power, leaders or prophets or whatnot? Every fucking religion has always been controlled by men.

When I meet anyone who says they hate a specific religion, I know I don't want to know them. Replace that with lgbtq+, or hate for some other group, or other people, other race, same deal. Hate is hate.
 
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yellowjester

Arcanist
Jun 2, 2024
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This kind of talk is really unnecessary in my opinion. Muslims have suffered enough violence and discrimination over the past two decades. If that could somehow decrease they muslimness then they would already be binge watching Richard Dawkins and Christopher hitchens videos on YouTube.
 
untothedepths

untothedepths

death wont return my calls
Mar 20, 2023
642
i dislike most religions. they're tools to control, divide, and conquer the minds of humans who are capable of thinking for themselves without resorting to some belief in a simultaneously all powerful yet wholly impotent being who for example allows children to be born with horrific birth defects and disabilities because 'they work in mysterious ways'.

if you should believe in something spiritual, i feel like it should have a core of a 'live and let live mentality', and if it is anything but about promoting world peace, love, compassion, and generosity its not worth anything to me.
 
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Reflection

Reflection

Thank goodness for the good souls
Sep 12, 2024
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This kind of talk is really unnecessary in my opinion. Muslims have suffered enough violence and discrimination over the past two decades. If that could somehow decrease they muslimness then they would already be binge watching Richard Dawkins and Christopher hitchens videos on YouTube.
And countless people, including muslims have suffered unspeakable crimes from the religion for hundreds of years.
 
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yellowjester

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Jun 2, 2024
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And countless people, including muslims have suffered unspeakable crimes from the religion for hundreds of years.
Of course. I'm not trying to dismiss that. I don't think it justifies calling mohammed a pedophile.
 
Aergia

Aergia

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Jun 20, 2023
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This kind of talk is really unnecessary in my opinion. Muslims have suffered enough violence and discrimination over the past two decades. If that could somehow decrease they muslimness then they would already be binge watching Richard Dawkins and Christopher hitchens videos on YouTube.

I think it's intended to be more cathartic than instrumental. I do think such sentiment often just has the effect of strengthening the convictions of the believers who hear it.

Mohamed was a pedophile in the literal sense of the word. (That comes from the most authoritative work in the Sunni canon after the Quran and is agreed upon by mainstream Islamic scholars. The same applies to most of what OP said.) If it's the negative connotation you're objecting to I guess that's a different story. But the narrative that places Islam in the role of the oppressed only applies in particular contexts, and ideological criticism is ultimately a very different thing from discrimination against a sect of people.
 
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Reflection

Reflection

Thank goodness for the good souls
Sep 12, 2024
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Of course. I'm not trying to dismiss that. I don't think it justifies calling mohammed a pedophile.
He IS a pedophile though, what would you call someone who married a 6 year old and started sleeping with her as soon as she turned 9?
 
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greebo6

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Bad things have been said and done in the name of every religion since the dawn of time. This is very unlikely to change . Its sad really.
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

I have finally found my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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He IS a pedophile though, what would you call someone who married a 6 year old and started sleeping with her as soon as she turned 9?
"B-but people matured quicker back then!!!!!" /s
 
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