• If you haven't yet, we highly encourage you to check out our Recovery Resources thread!
  • Hey Guest,

    As you know, censorship around the world has been ramping up at an alarming pace. The UK and OFCOM has singled out this community and have been focusing its censorship efforts here. It takes a good amount of resources to maintain the infrastructure for our community and to resist this censorship. We would appreciate any and all donations.

    Bitcoin (BTC): 39deg9i6Zp1GdrwyKkqZU6rAbsEspvLBJt
    ETH: 0xd799aF8E2e5cEd14cdb344e6D6A9f18011B79BE9
    Monero (XMR): 49tuJbzxwVPUhhDjzz6H222Kh8baKe6rDEsXgE617DVSDD8UKNaXvKNU8dEVRTAFH9Av8gKkn4jDzVGF25snJgNfUfKKNC8
Kimlett

Kimlett

Member
Jan 7, 2024
90
This is just a rant. Feel free to ignore it. I will talk shit about therapy, meditation and meds, so don't read if you think you can feel offended. Please just don't try to change my opinion. This is just something I need to get off my chest.


Therapy is just plain stupid or at least it's not worth the price. Everybody says "go to therapy" and then they think to themselves "my job is done here". Fucking thanks. Sane normies think therapy is the holy grail, a mysterious ritual that solves all mental issues. My vast experience says otherwise. I mean. my friends can listen to my shit and give me advice or just validate me, for free. I've had like 8 therapists in the last 10 years. I find videos in youtube that help me much more than any therapist just by saying some stuff that makes me feel validated, and I wonder why my therapist doesn't say to me stuff like that, nothing that makes me feel better, just the empty words I've heard over and over. Some of them recommend trying meditation... Ok I tried, is that all you will say to me? I mean, people tell you to go to therapy, therapist tells you to meditate... Ok, I could have figured that out for free. And then meditation doesn't work for you and then what? No more tools? You can't help anymore if those simple tecniques that can work with normal people dealing with some stress and whatnot just doesn't work with a fucked-up mind like mine? Two of my therapists, at certain point, just told me they don't know how to help me. I mean, I appreciate the honesty, but man, I have major depression, you can't treat that? Isn't what you're supposed to know how to treat? What will you do whith people with schizofrenia, severe ocd or bpd or whatever? Do this therapists only know how to treat sane people with some stress or with small mundane issues?? What do you mean you can't treat my depression? That's like my dentist telling me they can't treat my cavities. Aren't you supposed to do that for a living? And don't get me started in the amount of money I've lost to this. At least 50 euros per session, 200 per month. I think in te US it is even more expensive, but still. I have a shitty office low wage job (which by the way is a big part of why I'm mentally fucked-up but this world does not give any alternatives), and I have to spend the money I could save in something that is not fucking helping me, while I make someone richer? Fuck off.

Meditation is not the fucking holy grail either!! Stop with that!! The fact that it works for you doesn't mean it works for everybody!! Again, it is portrayed as miraculous, and it's just closing your eyes and staring at your stupid thoughts while you resist the urges to fucking move or scratch your hair or your nose or whatever. So fucking annoying and irritating. How is that supposed to help me? To train my ability to focus? That just does not heal my wounds. I mean, I'm starting to think my wounds will never heal, if just any fucking therapist can help me with that, I've felt desperate to the point I've tried esoteric stuff and even trying to believe in god and christianity and all that made-up bullshit that deeply infuriates me. But that's a different topic.

Meds are the only thing that have helped me somehow. But still, I've tried more than 8 different meds. If the purpose of the meds were to give you headaches, lack of sleep and lack of orgasms, congrats, you nailed it. But to fight depression they're kind of pathetic. Now I'm in an abnormally high dose of sertraline and it helps even though I still wanna kill myself every week, and I'll start a ketamine treatment whenever my hospital fucking finally contacts me. I'm ok with that, the more drugs I can take to escape this shitty life, the better.

I just think there's not something that works for everybody. Journaling helps me, creative stuff helps me, videogames help me, and I don't patronize people selling those things like water in the desert. Still, I have things that help me, but nothing is a real consistent solution or good enough alleviation of my mental problems. Fuck, therapy has helped me sometimes, but not fucking enough, not at all for fucking 50 or 60 euros per session. Stop fucking preaching it, fuck! I just go through life the best I can, like a fucking broken smokey old car driving extremely slowly at the side of the road, trying to not disturb the thousands of fast cool cars that pass me at full speed. I still haven't found a treatment as effective as being fucking dead. I aim to continue doing my best although my best is much below the fucking societal standards. Fuck therapy, fuck meditation, fuck meds, fuck the world, fuck being fucking alive.
 
  • Love
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: Chemical Animal, LoiteringClouds, dazed.daydreamer and 7 others
C

cyclicism

Member
Jan 6, 2025
40
Love the rant, thank you for sharing.

Why does every therapist / person preaching about mental health fixate on stupid fucking methods that are the first things listed on any "oh no, dont kill yourself ! :'C" article. like BROTHER if meditating worked I wouldnt fucking be here. Work out 3x a week? Holy fuck dude, the problem is that I don't have enough energy to brush my teeth. You're an actual idiot for thinking that exercise is within my mental capacities.

These 'fix it yourself' methods are things I am only capable of if my mental's in a good place. Not being able to bring myself to do them is a feature of 'shit, things are about to get bad'. Providing them as solutions to prevent the issues is the same thing as saying 'just get better'. :/
 
  • Love
  • Hugs
Reactions: LoiteringClouds, Life'sA6itch, dazed.daydreamer and 3 others
2messdup

2messdup

Enlightened
Feb 10, 2024
1,168
This is just a rant. Feel free to ignore it. I will talk shit about therapy, meditation and meds, so don't read if you think you can feel offended. Please just don't try to change my opinion. This is just something I need to get off my chest.


Therapy is just plain stupid or at least it's not worth the price. Everybody says "go to therapy" and then they think to themselves "my job is done here". Fucking thanks. Sane normies think therapy is the holy grail, a mysterious ritual that solves all mental issues. My vast experience says otherwise. I mean. my friends can listen to my shit and give me advice or just validate me, for free. I've had like 8 therapists in the last 10 years. I find videos in youtube that help me much more than any therapist just by saying some stuff that makes me feel validated, and I wonder why my therapist doesn't say to me stuff like that, nothing that makes me feel better, just the empty words I've heard over and over. Some of them recommend trying meditation... Ok I tried, is that all you will say to me? I mean, people tell you to go to therapy, therapist tells you to meditate... Ok, I could have figured that out for free. And then meditation doesn't work for you and then what? No more tools? You can't help anymore if those simple tecniques that can work with normal people dealing with some stress and whatnot just doesn't work with a fucked-up mind like mine? Two of my therapists, at certain point, just told me they don't know how to help me. I mean, I appreciate the honesty, but man, I have major depression, you can't treat that? Isn't what you're supposed to know how to treat? What will you do whith people with schizofrenia, severe ocd or bpd or whatever? Do this therapists only know how to treat sane people with some stress or with small mundane issues?? What do you mean you can't treat my depression? That's like my dentist telling me they can't treat my cavities. Aren't you supposed to do that for a living? And don't get me started in the amount of money I've lost to this. At least 50 euros per session, 200 per month. I think in te US it is even more expensive, but still. I have a shitty office low wage job (which by the way is a big part of why I'm mentally fucked-up but this world does not give any alternatives), and I have to spend the money I could save in something that is not fucking helping me, while I make someone richer? Fuck off.

Meditation is not the fucking holy grail either!! Stop with that!! The fact that it works for you doesn't mean it works for everybody!! Again, it is portrayed as miraculous, and it's just closing your eyes and staring at your stupid thoughts while you resist the urges to fucking move or scratch your hair or your nose or whatever. So fucking annoying and irritating. How is that supposed to help me? To train my ability to focus? That just does not heal my wounds. I mean, I'm starting to think my wounds will never heal, if just any fucking therapist can help me with that, I've felt desperate to the point I've tried esoteric stuff and even trying to believe in god and christianity and all that made-up bullshit that deeply infuriates me. But that's a different topic.

Meds are the only thing that have helped me somehow. But still, I've tried more than 8 different meds. If the purpose of the meds were to give you headaches, lack of sleep and lack of orgasms, congrats, you nailed it. But to fight depression they're kind of pathetic. Now I'm in an abnormally high dose of sertraline and it helps even though I still wanna kill myself every week, and I'll start a ketamine treatment whenever my hospital fucking finally contacts me. I'm ok with that, the more drugs I can take to escape this shitty life, the better.

I just think there's not something that works for everybody. Journaling helps me, creative stuff helps me, videogames help me, and I don't patronize people selling those things like water in the desert. Still, I have things that help me, but nothing is a real consistent solution or good enough alleviation of my mental problems. Fuck, therapy has helped me sometimes, but not fucking enough, not at all for fucking 50 or 60 euros per session. Stop fucking preaching it, fuck! I just go through life the best I can, like a fucking broken smokey old car driving extremely slowly at the side of the road, trying to not disturb the thousands of fast cool cars that pass me at full speed. I still haven't found a treatment as effective as being fucking dead. I aim to continue doing my best although my best is much below the fucking societal standards. Fuck therapy, fuck meditation, fuck meds, fuck the world, fuck being fucking alive.
Good post and I resonated with a lot of it.
Love the rant, thank you for sharing.

Why does every therapist / person preaching about mental health fixate on stupid fucking methods that are the first things listed on any "oh no, dont kill yourself ! :'C" article. like BROTHER if meditating worked I wouldnt fucking be here. Work out 3x a week? Holy fuck dude, the problem is that I don't have enough energy to brush my teeth. You're an actual idiot for thinking that exercise is within my mental capacities.

These 'fix it yourself' methods are things I am only capable of if my mental's in a good place. Not being able to bring myself to do them is a feature of 'shit, things are about to get bad'. Providing them as solutions to prevent the issues is the same thing as saying 'just get better'. :/
YES.
 
  • Love
Reactions: cyclicism and Kimlett
Kimlett

Kimlett

Member
Jan 7, 2024
90
Rant about exercise

Oh, I forgot about exercise, another marvelous holy grail that everybody worships and recommends! Exercise helps, exercise makes you feel good. Good for you. I don't feel any of that, fuck. I feel so fucking angry when I exercise. I may feel better afterwards but not like "oh I acomplished something", no, more like "Good, it's fucking over". Fucking school and fucking phisical education fucked up my relationship with exercise forever. I spent 2 years going to the gym and my physique improved (not enough to stop being a fat walrus because I couldn't stop fucking binge eating), but I noticed ZERO benefits for my mental health. I suffered a lot watching those fit sexy guys exercising and feeling like a disgusting piece of shit. That, and the fact that I find exercise so fucking boring that it makes me ruminate a lot, made me leave the gym crying more than once. "Oh, find a sport you like" FUUUuUkkk I don't fucking like any sports, they are so stupid, I never enjoyed watching any sports in tv, I tried tennis, cycling, running, swimming, dancing, taekwondo, capoeira... I always feel inferior and like I don't belong (I feel that fucking everywhere, but in environments related to sports that feeling fucking skyrockets). Maybe when I stop being fucking fat, which I intend to, I will kind of enjoy some form of exercise, but I think I will never forget the feeling of being laughed at and humiliated by my stupid schoolmates and my PE teacher. I've tried to heal my relationship with exercise but it just don't work. Fuck exercise, fuck exercise being something necessary to be healthy. Fuck exercise a million times. Rant fucking over.
 
Last edited:
  • Hugs
  • Love
Reactions: cyclicism and Regen
2messdup

2messdup

Enlightened
Feb 10, 2024
1,168
Rant about exercise

Oh, I forgot about exercise, another marvelous holy grail that everybody worships and recommends! Exercise helps, exercise makes you feel good. Good for you. I don't feel any of that, fuck. I feel so fucking angry when I exercise. I may feel better afterwards but not like "oh I acomplished something", no, more like "Good, it's fucking over". Fucking school and fucking phisical education fucked up my relationship with exercise forever. I spent 2 years going to the gym and my physique improved (not enough to stop being a fat walrus because I couldn't stop fucking binge eating), but I noticed ZERO benefits for my mental health. I suffered a lot watching those fit sexy guys exercising and feeling like a disgusting piece of shit. That, and the fact that I find exercise so fucking boring that it makes me ruminate a lot, made me leave the gym crying more than once. "Oh, find a sport you like" FUUUuUkkk I don't fucking like any sports, they are so stupid, I never enjoyed watching any sports in tv, I tried tennis, cycling, running, swimming, dancing, taekwondo, capoeira... I always feel inferior and like I don't belong (I feel that fucking everywhere, but in environments related to sports that feeling fucking skyrockets). Maybe when I stop being fucking fat, which I intend to, I will kind of enjoy some form of exercise, but I think I will never forget the feeling of being laughed at and humiliated by my stupid schoolmates and my PE teacher. I've tried to heal my relationship with exercise but it just don't work. Fuck exercise, fuck exercise being something necessary to be healthy. Fuck exercise a million times. Rant fucking over.
YES. Fellow binge eater here (recently put on another stone in weight in four weeks). If I walk outside for more than 20-30 minutes I get successive severe mood swings and feel far worse. And some years ago I used to go t the gym but because I had a severe exercise addiction as a form of self harm which ended up with surgery and 5 months of physio.
 
  • Love
Reactions: Kimlett
C

cooki3

Member
Jan 12, 2025
22
This is just a rant. Feel free to ignore it. I will talk shit about therapy, meditation and meds, so don't read if you think you can feel offended. Please just don't try to change my opinion. This is just something I need to get off my chest.


Therapy is just plain stupid or at least it's not worth the price. Everybody says "go to therapy" and then they think to themselves "my job is done here". Fucking thanks. Sane normies think therapy is the holy grail, a mysterious ritual that solves all mental issues. My vast experience says otherwise. I mean. my friends can listen to my shit and give me advice or just validate me, for free. I've had like 8 therapists in the last 10 years. I find videos in youtube that help me much more than any therapist just by saying some stuff that makes me feel validated, and I wonder why my therapist doesn't say to me stuff like that, nothing that makes me feel better, just the empty words I've heard over and over. Some of them recommend trying meditation... Ok I tried, is that all you will say to me? I mean, people tell you to go to therapy, therapist tells you to meditate... Ok, I could have figured that out for free. And then meditation doesn't work for you and then what? No more tools? You can't help anymore if those simple tecniques that can work with normal people dealing with some stress and whatnot just doesn't work with a fucked-up mind like mine? Two of my therapists, at certain point, just told me they don't know how to help me. I mean, I appreciate the honesty, but man, I have major depression, you can't treat that? Isn't what you're supposed to know how to treat? What will you do whith people with schizofrenia, severe ocd or bpd or whatever? Do this therapists only know how to treat sane people with some stress or with small mundane issues?? What do you mean you can't treat my depression? That's like my dentist telling me they can't treat my cavities. Aren't you supposed to do that for a living? And don't get me started in the amount of money I've lost to this. At least 50 euros per session, 200 per month. I think in te US it is even more expensive, but still. I have a shitty office low wage job (which by the way is a big part of why I'm mentally fucked-up but this world does not give any alternatives), and I have to spend the money I could save in something that is not fucking helping me, while I make someone richer? Fuck off.

Meditation is not the fucking holy grail either!! Stop with that!! The fact that it works for you doesn't mean it works for everybody!! Again, it is portrayed as miraculous, and it's just closing your eyes and staring at your stupid thoughts while you resist the urges to fucking move or scratch your hair or your nose or whatever. So fucking annoying and irritating. How is that supposed to help me? To train my ability to focus? That just does not heal my wounds. I mean, I'm starting to think my wounds will never heal, if just any fucking therapist can help me with that, I've felt desperate to the point I've tried esoteric stuff and even trying to believe in god and christianity and all that made-up bullshit that deeply infuriates me. But that's a different topic.

Meds are the only thing that have helped me somehow. But still, I've tried more than 8 different meds. If the purpose of the meds were to give you headaches, lack of sleep and lack of orgasms, congrats, you nailed it. But to fight depression they're kind of pathetic. Now I'm in an abnormally high dose of sertraline and it helps even though I still wanna kill myself every week, and I'll start a ketamine treatment whenever my hospital fucking finally contacts me. I'm ok with that, the more drugs I can take to escape this shitty life, the better.

I just think there's not something that works for everybody. Journaling helps me, creative stuff helps me, videogames help me, and I don't patronize people selling those things like water in the desert. Still, I have things that help me, but nothing is a real consistent solution or good enough alleviation of my mental problems. Fuck, therapy has helped me sometimes, but not fucking enough, not at all for fucking 50 or 60 euros per session. Stop fucking preaching it, fuck! I just go through life the best I can, like a fucking broken smokey old car driving extremely slowly at the side of the road, trying to not disturb the thousands of fast cool cars that pass me at full speed. I still haven't found a treatment as effective as being fucking dead. I aim to continue doing my best although my best is much below the fucking societal standards. Fuck therapy, fuck meditation, fuck meds, fuck the world, fuck being fucking alive.
I feel very similarly. I've been in therapy continuously for 11 years, more than one therapist. I have a high IQ and evidently that means they cannot help me. I fucking always hear "wow! You're very aware/introspective!" Like okay, but I can't stop my feelings/behaviors?! And they seem to be little to no help whatsoever aside from telling me to get a hobby. Which is bullshit. I genuinely feel as if therapy is only successful for people who do not have mental illness or people with mild depression or anxiety. Not a slight towards them- I'm glad it works for them. But it seems if you have more intense or even just long lasting issues it doesn't do shit. Not to mention I have felt judged on many occasions. I'm on medication as well. The highest doses of two and yes I feel better but only in the sense that I'm not having insane meltdowns or fits of rage. I have bpd, so it's made me calmer but I still feel the same things. I want to try ketamine but more than anything I'm just fucking tapped out. No friends literally my whole fucking life (due to my asd diagnosis I presume unless I'm just that bad) and started going into a deep depression and diagnosed with it and gad at 12. Things have literally gotten worse each year. It pisses me off when people act like I just need a hobby or to go outside. It makes me not even want to seek "help" anymore.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
  • Love
Reactions: cyclicism, Life'sA6itch, Regen and 3 others
dazed.daydreamer

dazed.daydreamer

Member
Jun 26, 2024
68
Love the rant, thank you for sharing.

Why does every therapist / person preaching about mental health fixate on stupid fucking methods that are the first things listed on any "oh no, dont kill yourself ! :'C" article. like BROTHER if meditating worked I wouldnt fucking be here. Work out 3x a week? Holy fuck dude, the problem is that I don't have enough energy to brush my teeth. You're an actual idiot for thinking that exercise is within my mental capacities.

These 'fix it yourself' methods are things I am only capable of if my mental's in a good place. Not being able to bring myself to do them is a feature of 'shit, things are about to get bad'. Providing them as solutions to prevent the issues is the same thing as saying 'just get better'. :/
This is so real. Yeah, working out and otherwise taking care of myself helps a bit when I'm able to do it. Meditation, speficially body scanning, is nice when I'm in a sound enough state to focus for 10-15 minutes, which is pretty rare at this point. Those habits make those okay-days feel a bit better. But it isn't a long-term solution, it doesn't fix the root of the problem. I always end up depressed again despite how many good habits I pick up for those couple of weeks or months I'm feeling okay. And when I'm properly depressed, I can't meditate or make it to therapy or work out--I can barely get out of bed when I need to take a piss.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: cyclicism, Life'sA6itch, Kimlett and 1 other person
L

Life'sA6itch

Experienced
Oct 29, 2023
230
Love the rant, thank you for sharing.

Why does every therapist / person preaching about mental health fixate on stupid fucking methods that are the first things listed on any "oh no, dont kill yourself ! :'C" article. like BROTHER if meditating worked I wouldnt fucking be here. Work out 3x a week? Holy fuck dude, the problem is that I don't have enough energy to brush my teeth. You're an actual idiot for thinking that exercise is within my mental capacities.

These 'fix it yourself' methods are things I am only capable of if my mental's in a good place. Not being able to bring myself to do them is a feature of 'shit, things are about to get bad'. Providing them as solutions to prevent the issues is the same thing as saying 'just get better'. :/
SPOT ON!!!!!!!! They will never understand no matter what though.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: cyclicism, Kimlett and 2messdup

Similar threads

masquerade
Replies
8
Views
354
Recovery
onlyway96
O
Kimlett
Replies
6
Views
223
Recovery
Gangrel
Gangrel
heirofvoid
Replies
1
Views
132
Suicide Discussion
cyclicism
C
TheAngelBornInHell
Replies
3
Views
179
Suicide Discussion
HelloDarkness25
H
I
Replies
1
Views
153
Recovery
timf
T