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Hollowillow

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Tldr: how to save my lungs from acid & corroded materials. How to clean it & stop offgassing?

Due to a mold phobia, I ruined my new appartment with chemicals. My landlord is uncooperative. The people who came didn't stay long enough to have health effects even though damage was visible.

It started by using a mix of vinegar & dish soap for evetything, due to chemical sensitivities. Acids like vinegars are the worst.

I had burning red skin on my face by washing the dishes & laundry with it. A swollen tongue, throat, burning eyes & face spasms when I put it in my new washing machine. I had red hives all over my arms that took out the clothes, and on my tighs in front if the dryer. I went to the hospital, got ridiculed. Went to my doctor, still waiting for an allergy specialist months later.

I thought it was the latex in my new bed & machines so I slept on the floor & washed by hand...

The pain was a mystery... Until it rained on a thick blanket. I couldn't get the moldy smell out. In a desperate attempt, I poured the entire bottle of apple cider vinegar in a huge bucket with dish soap... Thinking I could neutralize it with bicarbonate. But it never worked. Instead, massive fumes spread in my entire home.

I couln't breathe, see, I was so weak with myscle weakness I was bately conscious in bed for a week.

I poured the mixture down the toilet, my crotch burns for hours evety time I sit on it.

I rinsed in the bath. Taking one made my feet swell intensely, with red marble skin all over my legs. Muscle cramps, spasms, brain on fire, confusion, screaming agony.

I went to the hospital 4 times, dragged by the ambulance guys because I was so weak. My fingers were purple but I was mocked & sent home. Even when I had been hit by a car, bleeding, they told me it was just in my head. Most hospitals wouldn't even test me before dismissing me as just anxious. Being in that much pain & left to die was terrifying indeed... Being poisonned in evety cells is worse than being hit by a car & that really hurts

In desperation I put 1 kilo of bicarbonate all over the bathroom's ceramic floor for 24h. It gave me a massive head hacke. for months, I couldn't remove all the powder. I tried dish soap, brushed with hand soap made with goat milk with tons of foam, but I think it just made a chemical mess and removed the ceramic shiny finish instead of the vinegar. It still smells acid in spots, and when wet there are spots with no shine. It makes massive fumes all over if I try to mop it, like varnish or varnish remover? It's embeded in my tongue even if I stay outside for days, the taste is awful. My tongue is swollen, throat too. At home my lips & mouth tingle... Like an allergic reaction.

The poison control agreed that weakness, nausea, confusion, etc are sign of poisonning but no one believe me.

Qualinet said to put water buckets & raise the heat but it didn't work, the acid fumes stay since months.

But it's not vinegar that I taste in my mouth. It's the appartment itself. The weird ceramic floor coating, paint, acryluc tub? vynil floor, metal sink.

I washed a part of my vynil floor with a bar of soap. It did extract, but not the vinegar wash... I had a strong taste of soap & vynil for days. I did it because my lungs started to burn, even outside. I could feel their shape, tightness, pain in my heart. I feel like it's the end.

I washed clothes in my metal sink hoping it'd be more resistant, but the vinegar on them contaminated it. Bar of soaps made it worse. I threw away my clothes & bought new ones because just wearing them burned my eyes, skin un my face enough to peel off, lungs...

I fear that I turned the acetic acid of vinegar into acetone... Varnish remover. Corroded metal, Melted vynil floor. The dish soap made rhe vinegar go deep. It's 5% acid but evaporation of water turned it into 100% acid... Powder on my skin & eyes. My eyes peeled, I started to see whitish some days, lost vision. I feel like my eyes are wrapped in vynil & paint thinner is poured diwn my throat constantly. I have a hoarse voice now. It hurts to talk, in my chest too.

I tried washing the walls & ceiling in the bathroom. Sprayed water. The paint melted on the ceiling, my hands were full of wet paint. Tasted it. Now it peels. I warned the landlord that the new building paint was not right in the bathroom, it soaked water, grey spots... Will probably mold, but acid is deadlier than my old moldy home. Every breath is agony. My gut hurts. My skin burns. I now know how hell feels like. With people mocking & dismissing my reality & my pain. Demanding to be positive while calling me crazy. I wish i was... But I feel like I'm dying.

I fought to find a solution to no avail. Called disaster specialists but they don't do chemicals, found one but his water hose & tank can only fit a warehouse. I called the firemenbut too late, the fumes weren't noticeable anymore. But hours here is painful, especially after a bath. A plumber said that i corroded the metal of the kitchen sink, that not just acid evaporate but metal dust. It will get worse & need to be changed minimum 500$ but im poor. I literally have razor blades in my throat & lungs. I can't change evetything... I can't move out it's a special housing for the poor, took me 4 years to flee a flooded appartment full of mold, no one want a jobless cripple. This home was my last chance to heal & have a life. I ruined it with vinegar & weird chemical mixes...

What did i do? How do I fix it? How do I extract acid from metal, vynil, bath acryluc, porcelaine toilet & sink? What paint ro seal my bathroom without creating more toxic fumes or seal too much & create mold? I can't ask the organisation for a transfer until 2 years & they don't accept medical reasons. How do I survive? I don't have the courage to trash evetything I own (i washed it all with acid) & move to a room. Last time I ended up homeless, as a teen, when the house owner changed her mind...

How do i remove acid from it all? Bicarbonate made weird fumes. Left a residue that still irritate... And it's the building itself that I ruined. Why is it still making fumes months later! Water makes it worse.

Damned if you do & if you don't. I literally ruined everything i own. My gands swell red just touching my backpack after washing it at the laundromat with contaminated clothes... And a new natural detergent... Clothes came out oily sticky... What did I create

How can I save my life, my home, clothes...

A dry cleaner said that a visible vinegar spot could be removed but not vinegar all over.

Im in constant agony. I only fond good thing when I google vinegar, but if i google acetic acid i have all symptoms of chemical burn. It can attack the nervous system. I shake as if i had parkingson Sometimes & can't think clearly as if I had dementia... So in pain & dizzy, so gard to eat & breathe & talk... & Live...

Please help me understand what i did & how to remove acid & stabilize the materials so I won't taste the building fir days everytime i wet something... Or stay here.

I went to stores, called my insurances, 3 hospitals, 6 times... 6 doctor visits, countless pleas to my landlird. I even spent 7 days in a psych ward to flee the fumes, i had nowhere left to go. No family, friends, shelters...

This feels like a testament. A doctor mocked me saying that he put vinegar in his salad. DON'T!!! I had such a fast agony from using a bottle in one shot, skin, eyes, heart, lungs, mental problems so quickly... From unnatural acid that even eroded METAL!

How do I fix this so I can live? Thanks
Reddit downvoted me & said the chemical got to my brain too. It sure did! The sad thing is that they acknowledged my reality better than doctors by admitting the poison is real šŸ˜­ā˜ ļø
 
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Excuse me, but I can't believe the doctors made fun of you. It is impossible that seeing your status they did not attend you correctly. I dont believe it. Okay okay... in that case, it would be better if you went to another medical center. I doubt here you can find tips or help to solve problems with chemicals and serious skin injuries
 
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<3 I'm so sorry. This is a horrible situation.

I don't know how to amend this other than giving you money (willing to do).

I'm not sure how useful this information is but I was recently researching "NoPoo" (not using shampoo) and one of the potential problems with that plan is that the alternatives (like using baking soda) are heavily alkaline. So some people doing NoPoo will rinse their hair with apple cider vinegar to counteract the alkalinity of the baking soda. So I'm wondering if a baking soda solution could help. I'm really not sure but I figured I'd guess so you'd have more to work with when troubleshooting.

Redditors who don't know shit are not just unhelpful; they are anti-helpful. Instead of staying quiet they feel the need to shit on OP or give their bad take.

I hate doctors sometimes. They aren't all bad but one would expect more from such a respected profession. Some of them get off on having power over people the same way cops do.
 
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Excuse me, but I can't believe the doctors made fun of you. It is impossible that seeing your status they did not attend you correctly. I dont believe it. Okay okay... in that case, it would be better if you went to another medical center. I doubt here you can find tips or help to solve problems with chemicals and serious skin injuries
I got hit by a car, they laughed and said it was just anxiety. I had to put my hand on my head to reveal the blood hidden in my hairs. After that they said it was a slight fall and sent me home to shit in my bed & starve. Later when I gad trouble spelling my name, I was accused of lying when I explained why. I had to go on youtube to learn how to do physiotherapy to put cristals back in my ear correctly so I could detect gravity & walk straight.

Compared to that dismissive prejudice... Refusing to believe an extremely sensitivity to acid is much easier to dismiss. They ptobably blamed my chemical injuries on mere sun burn. No one ever examined my eyes.

If you know despair enough to wish for death... Please believe me.

i just got out of a bath with swollen hands and feet ... And burning crotch. Inner trembling in my legs. As if a swollen tongue with chemical taste wasn't bad enough. It goes down while I wait at the hospital. They only care if you're dying... But even then I wouldn't expect much.

i'd never suicide with poisons... It's AGONY... I'm being strangled by my own tongue... I fear that somefay I'll have to finish the job with a rope.

all for a bottle of vinegar & probably offgassing of a new building. Weird allergies ... If I hadn't spent 22 years in a moldy home, maybe i wouldn't gave cleaned too desperatedly... Enough to destroy everything even my body...

if anyone have tips to survive & detox my home... Or gang myself... Id appreciate. I locked myself in a psych ward for a week to flee my home... I got my brain back to think of an escape plan... but after being abused there... i just wanted to go back to my toxic home... No shelter will gave a cripple who need to sleep all day. They want us to get up at 7am no matter what... Even if we pay. The worst at the psych ward was to gear them laugh for hours, keeping me awake at night like clowns. Denying me medical care, even after waiting for hours at a specific talk time. Even when I was in pain. They wouldn't even look at my eyes. Took away my phone, left to my suicidal ideas & ptsd flashbacks. Denied a shower. Threatened. Only given 30 minute to eat then they took away the food. They called those neglectful, punitive, rules ... A care plan.

I understand your disbelief, but I thought everyone here saw the abyss of dark reality.

what is your reason to die? What could save you?

i just wanted 1 room to be safe. Just to be able to see, breathe, think... Without agony. Just be able to walk out on my feet & live...

now... I think I got my new dream home from a pact with the devil, & he didn't wait until my death to burn every part of me in hell.

but i have a beautiful place to die i guess...

Imagine getting allergic reactions every time you touch what you own, pain from everything you love. Eyes too hurt to watch tv. No one believes you, they mock you ...

thank you for not mocking me
<3 I'm so sorry. This is a horrible situation.

I don't know how to amend this other than giving you money (willing to do).

I'm not sure how useful this information is but I was recently researching "NoPoo" (not using shampoo) and one of the potential problems with that plan is that the alternatives (like using baking soda) are heavily alkaline. So some people doing NoPoo will rinse their hair with apple cider vinegar to counteract the alkalinity of the baking soda. So I'm wondering if a baking soda solution could help. I'm really not sure but I figured I'd guess so you'd have more to work with when troubleshooting.

Redditors who don't know shit are not just unhelpful; they are anti-helpful. Instead of staying quiet they feel the need to shit on OP or give their bad take.

I hate doctors sometimes. They aren't all bad but one would expect more from such a respected profession. Some of them get off on having power over people the same way cops do.
Thank you immencely for offering me cares. I'm reluctant to accept money, i'm on welfare so they could take it away .. and I fear that even if I completely change the bath, floor, sink, toilet, paint .. I'll still react to the vents or my stuff, or make another mess... I need to be believed, thank you. Tempting tough, are you rich? Hihi. The sad thing us that maybe you offered money because you won't need it after dying. You're kind... I selfishly want you in the world, you brightened mine. But I know that you might be better of freed.

The weird thing is that I used vinegar because I followed the nopoo. I didn't react this violently. But I did. I was diluting it. Using a bottle made it clear that my frailty grom childhood was partly due to living vinegar stuff... I tried bicarbonate and maybe it helped the ph a little, but i reacted to that too... And the floors did too...

I used a bar of soap, caprina? Unscented with goat milk. To wash my hairs... I used argan oil as a leave in conditionner. I used it for laundry. But I think I damaged the floor with it ... It might be what was combined with vinegar to make something dangerous.

I wish I understood. But my body reacts from too many things. It might even be my neighboor strongly scented laundry soap coming in the window... Multiple allergies & poisonning at once...

I react since I moved in... Vinegar nuked it worse I guess.

Thank you for your ideas. I fear I probably tried them all... Except ammonia but that sounds dangerous. A chemist said to neutralize with bicarbonate, so your suggestion was good. But the chemical reaction was scarier outside of a child's experiment...

I wonder if my feet swell from soaking acid in some floors, then walking on a left over of bicarbonate in another floor... Blowing up my cells with mini volcanoes.

But I used to wash myself with bicarbonate & vinegar for my hairs. I was also bed ridden & my bath was so eroded I could see the metal.

Everything is deadly. Might as well buy baby shampoo.

You're nice!
 
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You should take legal action. The only thing I can recommend is to go to another medical center to receive good care. You cannot now do home remedies since you have serious symptoms and injuries. I hope you can find peace, friend
 
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You should take legal action. The only thing I can recommend is to go to another medical center to receive good care. You cannot now do home remedies since you have serious symptoms and injuries. I hope you can find peace, friend
Thank you friend. I tried 3 hospitals. My injuries don't look serious. Nausea is more debilitating to me than a twisted ankle. It hurts to be unable to eat & waste away. I don't have nausea today but my throat hurts. I took a bath & feel like I drank paint. Hopefully from bath paint. If vinegar damaged the bath enough for it to evaporate itself like the metal sink I'm screwed... Too expensive to change.

The problem is that medicine don't fix the source, they prescibe drugs. No drugs can make me invincible to breathing fumes... And the doctors might know & feel too helpless to admit I'm not crazy...

Countless people suffer from our chemicals. I'm just fragile like a canari in a gold mine ...

The weird part is that I wish I could go back in time & scream at mysrlf telepatically "don't do it!!!"... I did. I heard it. I replied that I could neutralize with bicarbonate... I can't... I wish I didn't have to sepuku myself for that agonizing mistake.
 
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Reddit deleted my post before I could read all suggestions. Spent hours explaining that it's never psychosonatic. Stress burns out nutrients that irgan need so they end up hurt with nutritional deficiencies, not imagination.

Everyone call me insane. I wish I could just rage hang myself. IT BURNS TO BREATHE! LIKE BREATHING FLOOR VARNISH AT ALL TIMES! IM IN HELL! RIDICULED, INVALIDATED. JUST POISON ME TO DEATH ALREADY GODDAMN IT!
 
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Reddit deleted my post before I could read all suggestions. Spent hours explaining that it's never psychosonatic. Stress burns out nutrients that irgan need so they end up hurt with nutritional deficiencies, not imagination.

Everyone call me insane. I wish I could just rage hang myself. IT BURNS TO BREATHE! LIKE BREATHING FLOOR VARNISH AT ALL TIMES! IM IN HELL! RIDICULED, INVALIDATED. JUST POISON ME TO DEATH ALREADY GODDAMN IT!
damn :(
 
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I think running a dehumidifier would probably be the best thing to help with fume evaporation. I'm so sorry they ignored you at the hospital, but I am not surprised, I have heard many such stories from people. I hope you can find a doctor who has experience working with people with chemical sensitivities.
 
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Is there any possible way you could move to a new place?
 
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I was looking up dehumidifers and humidifiers because of the comment above and I found this:

https://www.airgle.com/blog/air-purifiers/best-air-purifiers-for-multiple-chemical-sensitivity-mcs/ (disclaimer: company that sells air purifiers)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_chemical_sensitivity

https://mcs-aware.org/home/what-is-mcs

Do you think you might have MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity)? It's not officially recognized as a condition but it might be relevant. You can look for air purifiers targeted towards people with this condition or perhaps tell a doctor you have this condition to lend yourself more credibility (not that you should have to).

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I'm not rich or planning to CTB soon, but I don't really need the money I have at the moment.

@Cathy Ames They are in special housing for the poor. Though that gave me an idea.
OP if you can save up to buy a car (not a good one, just once with doors) maybe you can sleep in there until the fumes die down and use your house for charging and storage. I sometimes think about moving into a car. The big thing that has stopped me is thinking about the winter cold. It's doable though. I have a portable microwave I use for hiding in the basement and there's a version of it that can be plugged into a car. If you look up VanLife stuff you can find other tricks to make living in a car easier. Get a heater for winter, stay outside in the summer, use a portable cooker or eat raw food if you don't want to enter your kitchen, shower with a hose or get a gym membership if you don't want to use your home's shower, get a portable charger for phone/laptop, use public restrooms, and mostly just detox and hopefully you can use this time for either the fumes to disperse naturally or to save up for cleaning/filtration
 
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Is there any possible way you could move to a new place?
No It'sva cheap housing. I'm disabled no one will rent me. Took me 4 year to get. I nuked it overcleaning in fear of it turning insalubrious like my previous home

Deshumidufuer didnt work ... The home itself got damaged & offgas
I was looking up dehumidifers and humidifiers because of the comment above and I found this:

https://www.airgle.com/blog/air-purifiers/best-air-purifiers-for-multiple-chemical-sensitivity-mcs/ (disclaimer: company that sells air purifiers)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_chemical_sensitivity

https://mcs-aware.org/home/what-is-mcs

Do you think you might have MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity)? It's not officially recognized as a condition but it might be relevant. You can look for air purifiers targeted towards people with this condition or perhaps tell a doctor you have this condition to lend yourself more credibility (not that you should have to).

re: previous comment

I'm not rich or planning to CTB soon, but I don't really need the money I have at the moment.

@Cathy Ames They are in special housing for the poor. Though that gave me an idea.
OP if you can save up to buy a car (not a good one, just once with doors) maybe you can sleep in there until the fumes die down and use your house for charging and storage. I sometimes think about moving into a car. The big thing that has stopped me is thinking about the winter cold. It's doable though. I have a portable microwave I use for hiding in the basement and there's a version of it that can be plugged into a car. If you look up VanLife stuff you can find other tricks to make living in a car easier. Get a heater for winter, stay outside in the summer, use a portable cooker or eat raw food if you don't want to enter your kitchen, shower with a hose or get a gym membership if you don't want to use your home's shower, get a portable charger for phone/laptop, use public restrooms, and mostly just detox and hopefully you can use this time for either the fumes to disperse naturally or to save up for cleaning/filtration
I can't drive. Bad eyes & stuff... but it sounds dreamy. It just won't offgass. Wetting restart it. Taking a bath was hell

I have multiple chemical sensitivity for sure... But used way too much, wrong ones on wrong things. Vinegar on acrylic, vinyl & etc... Bar of soap foam like mad messed the floor
 
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It's something to consider (if not for driving, for sleeping). Good luck and feel free to DM me
 
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It's something to consider (if not for driving, for sleeping). Good luck and feel free to DM me
Which part? I do have sensitivities. I firgot to say that I tried an air purifier before but it spat rubber & plastic smells & I got sicker.

My lungs burn like mad, tongue swollen, feels like I drank drano... After my bath. Landlird xalls me crazy. Dic cancels appointment. Social worker plan is to tolerate distress. Im choking on my own freaking tongue all day! I cleaned with vinegar, mixed... Such extreme regret. I think it melted my bath & floor. Swollen hands, like wasp attacks, head hurts... Dizzy... Like being in hell... Can't move, no job or references...
 
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I was talking about the car
 
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