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CynicalHopelessness

CynicalHopelessness

Messenger of Silence
Jan 9, 2020
940
Background

I've been depressed at least since 13 (I'm 25 now), and had my first suicidal thoughts at around 14. My father just ran away around time I reached 1 year never to be heard again, so I have zero memories of him.

I've been into escapism for too long as well. Computer games at home, reading (mostly fantasy books) on my phone at school. As far as friends go, I'd usually find one person to sit together and chat during school time, and then, once I left that school, we never talked again. Pretty much same thing happened in another school, and then in the university. I'd never fit with any larger community. Most of the topics teens would talk about weren't interesting to me in the slightest.

I hated school though. Every day was the same grind until it was over. Doing some arbitrary crap until it's over and you are loaded with homework. Once I was scolded by a teacher for doing homework during a break to have more free time home, so I stopped and I've learned to lie and cheat instead - copy somebody's last moment if it's critical, or just say "I forgot my notebook". There has always been a fear of repercussion, but somehow I managed to get through it pretty much all the time. And it was better than spending ton of time at home for nothing.

That grind though... It felt pointless and boring, but my mother's argument has always been "it's your job, do it", or "you can change schools" as if it would actually mean anything different.

She'd also constantly pressure me into getting good grades. In most heated arguments, when she would be most frustrated with me, she'd threaten to leave the house, abandoning me alone. It'd go as far as her putting on a coat and standing in the doorframe, demanding my apology for the "last time". Happened too many times to remember, but these are some of most vivid memories of my childhood.

While I was still living with her, at least three times I can remember when I was feeling suicidal and had nobody to turn to, so I told her. The responses have been somewhat along the lines of "how dare you even say that", "only weak people commit suicide" or "you have so much, you can't be unhappy".


Present

Now, let's fast forward to about month ago. I've been renting a small flat and visit my mother once every week or two. I'm still unhappy with a job - it probably makes me less unhappy over time, but there's already a huge depressive pile accumulated from the past anyway.

When she'd ask me how I was doing, I'd occasionally drop a small "suicide bomb", like casually mention stores in Mexico supposedly selling a certain euthanasia substance over the counter. It was a bit fun reflecting on how she'd seemingly completely not question, why would I even know such things.

She'd also pretty much never got a hobby that requires an effort. I've gifted her some things related to things she said she used to enjoy before, such as painting, but these remained pretty much unused. Most of her free time is spent watching TV shows.

Anyway, around the end of the year I've finalized my own checking out policy and decided to tell her I'll be doing it. The reaction I got was something along the lines of:

I never expected any of such problem to arise, but I love you very much and I'll do anything for you to be happy, I'll go to magicians and fortune-tellers to help.

First time, I was so stupefied by that response, I only reminded her of that past she seems to have forgotten, and said that it is probably the only way I have left to me. (I've tried therapy and lifestyle changes several times during the years I've been living on my own, and she knows it)

I brought it up again at my next visit after new year and said that 2020 will be the last year I intend to live fully. I got pretty much the same response, including fortune tellers. I retaliated by saying it's a shame if her best idea of doing something is throwing money at charlatans, and that she doesn't actually love _me_, as she wants me to continue an insufferable existence for her own comfort, ignoring what my own thoughts on the matter are. The topic was closed abruptly.

I expect her to remain in denial until the news of my death come crashing hard into her face. I don't hate my mother, but I really do believe that she only loves the idea of having a child as a way to give her life meaning, not the child himself. I don't want her to experience unhappiness, but came to a conclusion she only had me to avoid facing her own existential problems. If I am to die before her, that debt would have to be paid.

Still, I don't have any more capacity to continue struggling with my problems, and I partially hold her responsible for that crap, for both having a child in the first place, and ignoring the issues I've tried to get her attention to as a teenager on several occasions.
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,956
I'm sorry to hear about your circumstances and yes, it's a tough, heartbreaking childhood and into adulthood. I don't blame you for wanting to check out of this world. The world sucks as it is and ultimately, it is your choice in the end. I hope you are able to make the most out of your time in 2020.
 
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S1mpleme

Mage
Dec 27, 2019
517
I understand you very well. In my opinion you're focused on your mom mostly, even being the closest person to you, she will never feel what you feeling, she can't read your mind nor those tellers. What is your goal at all? If you want, you can PM something about yourself, location, etc.
 
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Ness

Ness

They/Them pronouns, please
Aug 28, 2019
248
I'm sorry, your mom sounds like she needs a couple reality checks and learn how to not be so selfish. I hope you manage to spend what time you're giving yourself on you, you deserve better than what life has given you so far. I wish you only good things for the rest of your time in this world.
 
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CynicalHopelessness

CynicalHopelessness

Messenger of Silence
Jan 9, 2020
940
I'm sorry to hear about your circumstances and yes, it's a tough, heartbreaking childhood and into adulthood. I don't blame you for wanting to check out of this world. The world sucks as it is and ultimately, it is your choice in the end. I hope you are able to make the most out of your time in 2020.
This brought a tear to my eye. I haven't felt understood in so long, I forgot how it feels. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.

I understand you very well. In my opinion you're focused on your mom mostly, even being the closest person to you, she will never feel what you feeling, she can't read your mind nor those tellers. What is your goal at all? If you want, you can PM something about yourself, location, etc.
I understand why you'd think I'm focused on her, but I'm not. I need to get some things off my chest, that's one of them; and I'm saddened by the fact that she's going to suffer once I die. But that's it. I don't really consider her "close" due to everything I described above (and because I don't really know what being close is like). I have no goals. My day to day life is suffering without hope, and I just want it to end.

I'm sorry, your mom sounds like she needs a couple reality checks and learn how to not be so selfish. I hope you manage to spend what time you're giving yourself on you, you deserve better than what life has given you so far. I wish you only good things for the rest of your time in this world.
Thank you. I know she does, but at this point it probably won't make anyone's life any better. I wish she'd accept my POV, but I can go on either way. I just hope I'd get enough of "good days" to enjoy few things I want to enjoy that'll come out this year.
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
913
Background

I've been depressed at least since 13 (I'm 25 now), and had my first suicidal thoughts at around 14. My father just ran away around time I reached 1 year never to be heard again, so I have zero memories of him.

I've been into escapism for too long as well. Computer games at home, reading (mostly fantasy books) on my phone at school. As far as friends go, I'd usually find one person to sit together and chat during school time, and then, once I left that school, we never talked again. Pretty much same thing happened in another school, and then in the university. I'd never fit with any larger community. Most of the topics teens would talk about weren't interesting to me in the slightest.

I hated school though. Every day was the same grind until it was over. Doing some arbitrary crap until it's over and you are loaded with homework. Once I was scolded by a teacher for doing homework during a break to have more free time home, so I stopped and I've learned to lie and cheat instead - copy somebody's last moment if it's critical, or just say "I forgot my notebook". There has always been a fear of repercussion, but somehow I managed to get through it pretty much all the time. And it was better than spending ton of time at home for nothing.

That grind though... It felt pointless and boring, but my mother's argument has always been "it's your job, do it", or "you can change schools" as if it would actually mean anything different.

She'd also constantly pressure me into getting good grades. In most heated arguments, when she would be most frustrated with me, she'd threaten to leave the house, abandoning me alone. It'd go as far as her putting on a coat and standing in the doorframe, demanding my apology for the "last time". Happened too many times to remember, but these are some of most vivid memories of my childhood.

While I was still living with her, at least three times I can remember when I was feeling suicidal and had nobody to turn to, so I told her. The responses have been somewhat along the lines of "how dare you even say that", "only weak people commit suicide" or "you have so much, you can't be unhappy".


Present

Now, let's fast forward to about month ago. I've been renting a small flat and visit my mother once every week or two. I'm still unhappy with a job - it probably makes me less unhappy over time, but there's already a huge depressive pile accumulated from the past anyway.

When she'd ask me how I was doing, I'd occasionally drop a small "suicide bomb", like casually mention stores in Mexico supposedly selling a certain euthanasia substance over the counter. It was a bit fun reflecting on how she'd seemingly completely not question, why would I even know such things.

She'd also pretty much never got a hobby that requires an effort. I've gifted her some things related to things she said she used to enjoy before, such as painting, but these remained pretty much unused. Most of her free time is spent watching TV shows.

Anyway, around the end of the year I've finalized my own checking out policy and decided to tell her I'll be doing it. The reaction I got was something along the lines of:



First time, I was so stupefied by that response, I only reminded her of that past she seems to have forgotten, and said that it is probably the only way I have left to me. (I've tried therapy and lifestyle changes several times during the years I've been living on my own, and she knows it)

I brought it up again at my next visit after new year and said that 2020 will be the last year I intend to live fully. I got pretty much the same response, including fortune tellers. I retaliated by saying it's a shame if her best idea of doing something is throwing money at charlatans, and that she doesn't actually love _me_, as she wants me to continue an insufferable existence for her own comfort, ignoring what my own thoughts on the matter are. The topic was closed abruptly.

I expect her to remain in denial until the news of my death come crashing hard into her face. I don't hate my mother, but I really do believe that she only loves the idea of having a child as a way to give her life meaning, not the child himself. I don't want her to experience unhappiness, but came to a conclusion she only had me to avoid facing her own existential problems. If I am to die before her, that debt would have to be paid.

Still, I don't have any more capacity to continue struggling with my problems, and I partially hold her responsible for that crap, for both having a child in the first place, and ignoring the issues I've tried to get her attention to as a teenager on several occasions.
I wish I had your emotional generosity; I positively loathe my mother, and hold her solely responsible for my issues
 
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C_F

Experienced
Jul 31, 2019
241
Isn't it something how the lack of a mother's care can just, like, basically kill you. I'm in your boat @CynicalHopelessness

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Lostandfound7

Lostandfound7

Just waiting....
Jan 21, 2020
995
This really saddens me to when u hear of mothers bringing children into the world n not loving on them unconditionally. A mother's love should b the deepest love any child/adult experiences... It esp hurts me cuz I have been unsuccessful in having a child of my own. I wish I could just "adopt" n shower with love, all of the ones on this site who have been hurt by their moms..truly heartbreaking..:aw:
It really saddens me when I hear of mothers bringing children into the world n not loving on them unconditionally. A mother's love should b the deepest love any child/adult experiences... It esp hurts me cuz I have been unsuccessful in having a child of my own. I wish I could just "adopt" n shower with love, all of the ones on this site who have been hurt by their moms..truly heartbreaking..:aw:
Stay strong dear one..sending u love :heart:
 
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randomz

randomz

Specialist
Nov 4, 2019
395
I am in kinda the same position. Basically my whole life felt like a grind with only books/video games giving me "happy" momments of escaping reality. Problem with me is that a big part of my deppression comes from my self-loathing and the fact that I always blame myself for whatever bad is happnening in my life.
@CynicalHopelessness - I some times have periods of time in which I feel not so depressed by finding something I am passionate about. Maybe you can try this as well? Although, it is just another form of escapism :D
 
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Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
I really felt this. 99% of my issues stem from my parents. Sorry to hear about your situation, no matter what you choose I hope you have peace this year.
 
TheLastSacrifice

TheLastSacrifice

Student
Feb 14, 2020
174
This really saddens me to when u hear of mothers bringing children into the world n not loving on them unconditionally. A mother's love should b the deepest love any child/adult experiences... It esp hurts me cuz I have been unsuccessful in having a child of my own. I wish I could just "adopt" n shower with love, all of the ones on this site who have been hurt by their moms..truly heartbreaking..:aw:

Stay strong dear one..sending u love :heart:
And a father's love as well. I would give anything to give my daughter some love.
 
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Pan

Paragon
Oct 24, 2019
913
The lack of love I received from both mother and father twisted my life. Actually, i'm fond of questioning which was worst—-my father's fists of my mom acrid tongue. Factoring in bullying, and it's a wonder I made it all.
 
TheLastSacrifice

TheLastSacrifice

Student
Feb 14, 2020
174
Yes, u r absolutely right.I'm sorry to hear that isn't the case . :aw:
I didn't mean it as a corrective comment. I admit, I am looking for any excuse to express love for my daughter. I may be taking it to an annoying extent in my life right now, but I am in a sort of emotional trauma. I don't want to start hijacking though so I'll at least keep in my own threads in the future.
 
Lostandfound7

Lostandfound7

Just waiting....
Jan 21, 2020
995
I wasn't offended..I understand ur in an emotional state my friend ..
 
TheLastSacrifice

TheLastSacrifice

Student
Feb 14, 2020
174
I wasn't offended..I understand ur in an emotional state my friend ..
Good. I am realizing my forum etiquette is pretty bad but it's not intentional. Im learning these things as I go. Never been into subreddits, newsgroups, forums, ect, other than YouTube comments.
 
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