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diy-event

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Nov 16, 2024
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I know we choose suicide because we suffer some very real pain. Suicide becomes a solution to years of pain and other human suffering

But I'd like to also think that I was making a statement. That I have a right to choose a death the way I see fit

I can do it alone or with people who witness my commitment

I think we need to be a bit more assertive and not hide away from it that somehow a suicide is a failure. It can be a success
 
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TheHolySword

TheHolySword

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Nov 22, 2024
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i don't want my death to be a spectacle or a statement, i just want it to be the end of my suffering. my suicide will be my failure, not my success.
 
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Kusogaki

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Mar 22, 2023
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I understand both sides of the argument, it may seem like it's a spectacle or something to stare at but what I think OP is saying is all suicides don't have to the taken negatively. It's good to take pride in your action, choose your own path.
 
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foreverfalling

foreverfalling

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Jul 22, 2022
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That's why it's not allowed, they silence you in both voice and action.
 
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brain-fog

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Dec 11, 2024
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For me it's a very personal thing and I would also do if I were the only living being on this barren earth.

No matter how bad or worthless your life is, it's a complete waste of it, to make a political thing out of it. Nobody cares and nobody will care. I'm not being mean, this is just how it is. Even the very well known suicide in these spheres, are still very obscure and meaningless. And even if your suicide will be well known through sheer luck, which it won't anyway, but even then it's a complete waste. Don't do such things for other people. If you want to die, that's fine, but do it for yourself.
 
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Wonhun

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Nov 5, 2024
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weaponize to rage war against normie
 
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The_Hunter

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Nov 30, 2024
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...Committing suicide for others? That doesn't really make sense. And suicide as a political statement equivocates to that.

Also, many people commit suicide--oftentimes not even entering the news, and merely being local occurrences for their family and friends.

As a "success"... well... all I would say is this. It is a tragedy suffer to the degree of suicide becoming a viable option to them. I do not believe intense unbearable occurrences of suffering—regardless of how such suffering ends—to ever be a success. Feel free to disagree with me if you feel I am wrong. But this is just my opinion, and I believe it so.

Most people do not celebrate at the instance of a suicide—and even the suicidal themselves (on this site, no less!) feel a degree of ambivalent mourning for the person who goes. Yes, they might have some positive sense that they aren't suffering anymore—but they, too, even miss the person who once was.

It is not a black and white situation. I say we must do away with all ultimatums relating to suicide. This is not a black and white issue; the more nuance, the better--the more analysis, the better—the more consideration of all rational undeniable aspects, the better.

All concepts of honor are subjective, from humans and groups of humans. Suicide is highly idolized for being badass despite being stigmatized to the degree of divination. I say such divinations, such praises—are naive, are misunderstandings.

I say we must strip away all coats of 'honor' and 'glory', and just think on this. What do we, truly want in our lives--and our societies. I end with this.

If a person truly wants to maximize the political impact they will have on other people and their local community and society; I have bad news. The most effective action in that case, is to live. To dedicate one's doings to bettering things. And that is hard. That is hell. That's why not everyone does it. But those who do it, do not do so for nothing. There is real effect on others from our workings. No matter how serendipitous--or everyday, they may be. All efforts do indeed have some effect on something; even if it is unseen, even if it's just a little A lot of littles make something big; many raindrops make a rainshower.

What is politics? People, changing. It is hard, and slow—but so are glaciers; and they, still move forth.

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It always seems impossible until it's done.

—Nelson Mandela

I think what we feel when we hear of suicide, is not a celebration or rejoice—but a quiet sympathy, a touchy whisper of a mourning in a way that we find it hard to truly recognize. We ascribe all to this feeling; but I call it empathy. My words with you.
 
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Adûnâi

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Apr 25, 2020
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Most people do not celebrate at the instance of a suicide—and even the suicidal themselves (on this site, no less!) feel a degree of ambivalent mourning for the person who goes. Yes, they might have some positive sense that they aren't suffering anymore—but they, too, even miss the person who once was.
This has nothing to do with the suicide itself but the idiotic and retarded structure of this world and this existence. We may harbour ideas of eternal merriment, but are faced with ephemeral decay. The hatred and sadness are inherently directed at the creators of this universe, not suicide per se.
 
The_Hunter

The_Hunter

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This has nothing to do with the suicide itself but the idiotic and retarded structure of this world and this existence. We may harbour ideas of eternal merriment, but are faced with ephemeral decay. The hatred and sadness are inherently directed at the creators of this universe, not suicide per se.
Sometimes it feels there is no "one party" to blame for things; and that confusion is part of the incomprehensible unbearableness of the suicidal experience, in addition to that.
 

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