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Tiburcio

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I really felt the need of sharing this. Something is growing inside me and I must throw it out.

If one of my parents commit suicide, bringing me here selfishly and leaving me in this exact moment, making worse my situation, I will go to the cemetery and I will shit on their tomb.

Thanks for your time.
 
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Definitelyworried

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U think one of your parents will commit suicide?
 
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Tiburcio

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U think one of your parents will commit suicide?
I wouldn't be surprised. They are in constant anxiety, and their life and circumstances are shit. They menaced me with killing themselves several times. I mean, I hate them deeply and I don't want to see them in my life but the problem is I economically of them, I'm still studying and I should work and study at the same time, something very fucked.

I think it's miserable to leave your son alone in general, in any circumstance but specially my parents doing it would be really harmful for me.
 
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Definitelyworried

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I'm 32 and I have no kids.
Sorry to hear that about your parents I hope they stop thinking about suicide.
 
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Definitelyworried

Definitelyworried

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Thank you. I have lots of problems now and their suicide would ruin my life.
I hope you and your parents stop thinking about suicide.
I know how bad it feels to think about suicide.
I go to work but I don't make a lot of money, I also have a lot of problems. If my dad passes away I will also have a lot of financial problems and he is getting old. I'm trying to improve my situation but it's difficult when you are suicidal.
 
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Tiburcio

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I hope things get better for you too. It's hard keep going in our state, I have no motivation and I continue just because I have no choice.

I don't know if they really would do such thing. I hope no.
 
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Definitelyworried

Definitelyworried

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Tell them that you need them. That will slow them down, most likely.
 
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millefeui

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That is... something.

If my mother died, it would be unfortunate for me, so I can relate (except I wouldn't defile her tomb). It is very unlikely that she would kill herself, but there are plenty of ways to die that don't involve taking your own life. She was very selfish to bring me to life, and she even admits it, but honestly what is done is done. She had me 27 years ago, that is too long of a time to hold a grudge.

Anyways, if you are an adult, technically your parents have no moral obligations with you anymore, save for very specific situations.
 
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Anyways, if you are an adult, technically your parents have no moral obligations with you anymore, save for very specific situations.
Yeah, because being an "adult" means you can "succeed in life". When I was 24 I still had the mind of a teenager. Parents should take care of all their children no matter their age, otherwise you are just forcing them to kill themselves if they can't find a job, which is something I would have done. You are pretty much the culprit of their demise. Thinking in a different way just means you never gave a shit about them and your plan is to abandon them, fuck people like that.

If you don't believe me think about all those people who kill themselves with 15 - 30 years old as victims of this situation. If they had their parents support they would have continued to live even if was sort of painful (maybe being all day long in their bed). Hikikomori and NEETs depend on their parents for everything, many of them would be homeless and they would be in the situation described above. Having a kid means you have a big responsability on your shoulders for the rest of your live. If you don't agree don't have kids, abort before it is too late.

My parents care about me and help me satisfy my needs which is what it should be. I also help them, but it's not about what I do for them. I know that even if I had 40 years old I would have their back. That's what a real family is like.
 
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millefeui

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I never said anything about succeeding in life. All I said is that if you are an adult, the responsibility for your life is yours. And that is a fact.
 
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typx

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Yeah, because being an "adult" means you can "succeed in life". When I was 24 I still had the mind of a teenager. Parents should take care of all their children no matter their age, otherwise you are just forcing them to kill themselves if they can't find a job, which is something I would have done. You are pretty much the culprit of their demise. Thinking in a different way just means you never gave a shit about them and your plan is to abandon them, fuck people like that.

If you don't believe me think about all those people who kill themselves with 15 - 30 years old as victims of this situation. If they had their parents support they would have continued to live even if was sort of painful (maybe being all day long in their bed). Hikikomori and NEETs depend on their parents for everything, many of them would be homeless and they would be in the situation described above. Having a kid means you have a big responsability on your shoulders for the rest of your live. If you don't agree don't have kids, abort before it is too late.

My parents care about me and help me satisfy my needs which is what it should be. I also help them, but it's not about what I do for them. I know that even if I had 40 years old I would have their back. That's what a real family is like.

I'm not so sure about all that. But parents do have a sacred duty to prepare their children to succeed in life. And so many of them fail at this. This failure is, in my mind, unforgivable.

I feel for NEET and Hiki people. They didn't ask to be raised like shit.
 
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typx

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Funny thing.. of those kids I grew up with.. the ones that had a decent home life.. involved parents that set boundaries and discipline.. they made something of themselves.. the ones from dysfunction or neglect.. nope. Our world loves the story of the kid born into bad circumstances making it through pluck and determination.. the truth is this rarely ever happen. Fuck ups raise fuck ups.
 
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When my mother died, I was just starting college. I lost the house we lived in (a family moved in, never paid rent, I couldn't pay the mortgage, courts refused to evict family b/c they had kids...), and after my freshman year in the dorms worked nights at an IHOP by Fenway Park cleaning toilets... just to have a warm place to be at night. I finished my last three years of college living on the streets, in the subway stations, South Station rails, or working night jobs while sleeping maybe 2 hours a night. I was a frickin' mess by the time I graduated.

And if you're like us--really, really weird and otherwise undesirable--no one wants to help you. Jobs don't want to (and don't have to) hire you. You can't rely on "friends." So in addition to poverty, you have to do EVERYthing on your own--getting to/from the hospital, moving, taking care of all emergencies--to say nothing of the chronic lack of affection, validation, companionship that the same professionals who tell us NOT to commit suicide publish research paper after paper demonstrating are critical to healthy development AND maintenance. That's no life to have. But our ill-prepared parents thrust this decades-long hell on us. Oh yeah. "It'll all work out," they say. Pffft.

If someone can't take care of him-/herself and doesn't have a stable home, that person shouldn't be reproducing. My god. How frickin' selfish humans are. We're the same species that will go out and get multiple dogs and then chain them up in the baking sun or frigid winter air while we work 12+ hours a day, neglecting the physical and emotional needs of a social animal but then say, "I love my dogs!" BS. Humans are a piece.
 
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