Discussion 'Intrusive' thoughts.

[Forever Sleep]

Do you experience ideation as intrusive thoughts? That struck me when I was put in touch with a helpline after the IC SN welfair checks years back. I wanted to just end the call as soon as possible but, the lady said: 'Don't you think we should talk about these intrusive thoughts you've been having?'

I wanted to reply that they weren't intrusive. They haven't been intrusive since maybe the first couple of times I had them- aged 10. It didn't take me long to feel they were a reasonable response to my awful situation at the time.

For many years though, they have been a source of comfort. Passive ideation anyway. The actual process of killing myself doesn't massively appeal. But- why wouldn't a prisoner look forward to their release date? How could the idea of finding freedom from an oppressive situation be intrusive?

The intrusiveness bit comes from all the opposition to them. You can't do it to your loved ones. You're going to have to put yourself through something enormously risky and probably painful. Are you sure you've got the courage? What if you fail? What if you only maim yourself? How much worse will life be if that happens? In the worst case scenario and you survive with injuries, will you still be able to support yourself?

It's all that shit that is intrusive for me. I just want to be able to take this action, knowing it will be successful and knowing it had no negative consequences on others. If only it were an accepted decision to make.

What's it like for you? Are any aspects of the thoughts intrusive? Have your attitudes ever changed?

 

[Pluto]

 

[FoxSauce]

Hmm yeah but moslty if im cutting something in reay wanna cut myself. Or see a bottle of bleach and be like: Do it , do it

Idk if they are intrusive thoughts or voice (bro idk i tried talking to my doctor a out it but she isnt sure either) when im in a really depressing poont or episode i experience like a voice in my head that is not my own is moslty genderless saying: see no one loves you , kill yourself , do it do it! Nobody wantes gou here. They get super mega loud that is hard to concentrate or even think

Are they intrusive thoughts? Or voices no freaking clue

 

[Crash_Bash_Dash]

I have same stance as @FoxSauce with my intrusive thoughts that I am confused about that whether they are instructive and intrusive voices or intrusive thoughts in my case. Those 'intrusive thoughts' make judgments in my head about other people in stressful, awkward or otherwise anxiety-filled situations like somebody is f.e. a 'a pedophile' or 'a soyboy' or something else (like related to sex) and that doesn't suit in my way of thinking about others. I've been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder so it might have something to do with that perhaps though.

I am not sure about whether they are voices or intrusive thought because they're not like the schizophrenic, unfamiliar random people's voices I've heard in the past sometimes. Like, those thoughts just strike deep into my mind like an arrow and disturb me for a brief moment and then those thoughts go away. Usually when they appear I tend to shake my head for a bit as if I am shedding those thoughts away the moment they strike at me . Yet, nobody has commented anything about me shaking my head randomly . But yeah, whatever those things are, they sure are annoying as hell .

 

[FoxSauce]

I have same stance as @FoxSauce with my intrusive thoughts that I am confused about that whether they are instructive and intrusive voices or intrusive thoughts in my case. Those 'intrusive thoughts' make judgments in my head about other people in stressful, awkward or otherwise anxiety-filled situations like somebody is f.e. a 'a pedophile' or 'a soyboy' or something else (like related to sex) and that doesn't suit in my way of thinking about others. I've been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder so it might have something to do with that perhaps though.

I am not sure about whether they are voices or intrusive thought because they're not like the schizophrenic, unfamiliar random people's voices I've heard in the past sometimes. Like, those thoughts just strike deep into my mind like an arrow and disturb me for a brief moment and then those thoughts go away. Usually when they appear I tend to shake my head for a bit as if I am shedding those thoughts away the moment they strike at me . Yet, nobody has commented anything about me shaking my head randomly . But yeah, whatever those things are, they sure are annoying as hell .

Bro is such a relief im not alone on this
Ive been asking my psychiatrist about that ans she says she isnt sure but yeah their super annoying af.

 

[Crash_Bash_Dash]

Bro is such a relief im not alone on this
Ive been asking my psychiatrist about that ans she says she isnt sure but yeah their super annoying af.

Yeah, it's relief that we may struggle with these things together. My psychiatrist is also not sure about my case but I've come to a conclusion that perhaps some mental health diagnoses can overlap with each other and I think that those intrusive thoughts may have something in common with OCD.

Also now I recalled one more thing. I have annoying intrusive thoughts when I see someone cutting with a knife that it would do harm to me or something.