DevilInHell667
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I live pretty isolated but live in Holland. Is it different in other countries? Is it better in other countries if you are depressed to live?
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Weed is also illegal in the state I'm in which sucks, but it's legal in other statesWell I live in Germany, so basically Holland in Black Red and Gold, and weed is illegal here.. so to simplify it, it sucks here and they don't even give you something to cope with it.
I honestly thought by now they at least approved medical..Weed is also illegal in the state I'm in which sucks, but it's legal in other states
In some states, medical is legal, but it's neither recreational or medical for mineI honestly thought by now they at least approved medical..
I am in the UK. Doctors are pretty quick here to give you anti depressants etc, but to give anyone any proper help to sort out the problems whether its mental or physical ones its not easy. The NHS only has very little from the Government for mental health. In the County I live in there is just one hospital ward with 6 beds in for the entire County for those with mental/emotional/crisis problems. If you ask for Counselling/therapy its a long wait and when you do get it, its very limited and in my experience poor. I was told I could go as long as I wanted to and stay with same therapist, but just as was just starting to get somewhere the therapist left all of a sudden and that was it. Made me even worse. If you go to private counsellors/psychologists it costs an arm and a leg and you can get conned although some are helpful. Voluntary places can be good and others not but again demand for them is high. If you go to Doctor and tell them you are suicidal they often dismiss it, you tell the police, they tell you to go to Docs, you go to Docs again, back to Police and they say well if you do it we'll come and pick up the mess afterwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I live pretty isolated but live in Holland. Is it different in other countries? Is it better in other countries if you are depressed to live?
I am in the UK. Doctors are pretty quick here to give you anti depressants etc, but to give anyone any proper help to sort out the problems whether its mental or physical ones its not easy. The NHS only has very little from the Government for mental health. In the County I live in there is just one hospital ward with 6 beds in for the entire County for those with mental/emotional/crisis problems. If you ask for Counselling/therapy its a long wait and when you do get it, its very limited and in my experience poor. I was told I could go as long as I wanted to and stay with same therapist, but just as was just starting to get somewhere the therapist left all of a sudden and that was it. Made me even worse. If you go to private counsellors/psychologists it costs an arm and a leg and you can get conned although some are helpful. Voluntary places can be good and others not but again demand for them is high. If you go to Doctor and tell them you are suicidal they often dismiss it, you tell the police, they tell you to go to Docs, you go to Docs again, back to Police and they say well if you do it we'll come and pick up the mess afterwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me there is no help really 'out there' not by asking for it for it in the real world. I think it is there and you have to be lucky to stumble upon it.
I honestly thought by now they at least approved medical..
Couldn't describe this better.. this is what scared me so much of actually seeking help here..Germany in some ways is very regressive and a neoliberal shithole. I mean the states or the UK are probably worse but it's not the place to be for low socio economic status or unemployed people. If you go onto German forums you'll see there's less awareness around mental problems than in the anglophonic spheres of the internet.
Healthcare is free, yes, but there's a huge shortage of mental health professionals and especially specialists (hard to find DBT treatment for example or a schema therapist) and absurdly long waiting lists of three months to a year.
Germans are also still very authoritarian - in the sense that they are 'good sheeple' let's say - and take psychiatrists opinions as gospel. So mental illness either doesn't exist and you are lazy OR you are a sick person and belong into psychiatric hospitals. There's no in-between. Germans in general are pretty narrow minded and rigid, that's what I don't like about them.
Also they define themselves very much by their careers. I don't know how common this is around the world, but usually one of the first questions you are asked by new aquaintances or even just talking about people you haven't heard of in a while is "what do you/ does he do" (as in, what's your occupation); so NEET status, even for a couple of months, is really hard on your self confidence in this country.
@Nem, you are actually right about our health care. The only reason that I get decent care is that I used to work in the system, and I know what to say to get them to actually do their jobs.I'm in Canada and our healthcare is pretty much bullshit, actually it's a freakin joke. I was left to die in a hospital and they tried to cover it up, that pretty much sums it up nicely. If you don't need healthcare it's okay though
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Thanks and yes it's true, our healthcare system is a joke. I now have muscle, nerve, kidney and nervous system damage because the freakin assholes refused to help me when I was having a serious reaction to dangerous meds. I regret not going back there with a baseball bat and crushing skulls@Nem, you are actually right about our health care. The only reason that I get decent care is that I used to work in the system, and I know what to say to get them to actually do their jobs.
I'm sorry that you almost got killed by the system. Hugs
My boomer generation has a lot to answer for. We ate our young. Just my dark thoughts and guilt.I live in Washington State, USA. The suicide rate has been increasing at an alarming rate.
The New York Times - "The Soaring Rate of Suicide by Young People" - First, and perhaps most challenging, we need to address some of the underlying causes: a profoundly broken economy that robs young people of opportunities for a healthy and productive life, a constant news cycle full of dire predictions, and, of course, access to lethal means like guns.
The first steps to treatment ignores the fact that we face a dire shortage of medical professionals, especially psychiatrists like Dr. Friedman himself, who can properly prescribe medication and provide accompanying therapy — the combination proven most effective in treating both depression and anxiety.
"a time of relentless school shootings and obvious evidence of climate change that the depression of teenagers is attributed to media and drugs" - "the causes of young people's depression and despair: the isolation, cyber-preoccupation and bullying he mentions, and the feelings of inadequacy and uncertainty that fuel and compound them"
I also live in the UK. It's very hard to get real help here. Like you said, they're very quick just to give you drugs. When I was a teenager, my parents tried to get me into therapy and put me on a waiting list. After about one year, I was still on the waiting list, so they took me off. I've never really attempted to get professional help after that. Anyway, some of my friends tell me that they just ask questions, and never really actually give help or suggest anything. Most people don't seem to care if you tell them you're depressed etc. and just write it off.I am in the UK. Doctors are pretty quick here to give you anti depressants etc, but to give anyone any proper help to sort out the problems whether its mental or physical ones its not easy. The NHS only has very little from the Government for mental health. In the County I live in there is just one hospital ward with 6 beds in for the entire County for those with mental/emotional/crisis problems. If you ask for Counselling/therapy its a long wait and when you do get it, its very limited and in my experience poor. I was told I could go as long as I wanted to and stay with same therapist, but just as was just starting to get somewhere the therapist left all of a sudden and that was it. Made me even worse. If you go to private counsellors/psychologists it costs an arm and a leg and you can get conned although some are helpful. Voluntary places can be good and others not but again demand for them is high. If you go to Doctor and tell them you are suicidal they often dismiss it, you tell the police, they tell you to go to Docs, you go to Docs again, back to Police and they say well if you do it we'll come and pick up the mess afterwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me there is no help really 'out there' not by asking for it for it in the real world. I think it is there and you have to be lucky to stumble upon it.
I live in Norway and we have 4 seasons, but our summer is short, and the autumn and winter long, cold and very dark. I get depressed when I'm not seeing the sun. I truly believe in the power of vitamin D (sunshine). Our health system is free and supposedly good. Our mental health care is, on the other hand, shitty. It's almost impossible to get real help (except for medication, they love to prescribe SSRIs).
Our suicidal rate is increasing enormously.
Me too, and its not bad for me at all.I live in a Muslim nation. Enough said.