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Mustkeyknow

Mustkeyknow

Experienced
Feb 8, 2020
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Has anyone done it? After all the ideation and preparation. Let alone the methods and survival instincts, i wanna stay but i don't wanna suffer I want a good life (who doesn't right?) like is it possible?
 
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Lejes Rimul

Lejes Rimul

Member
Feb 9, 2020
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I believe that if it is possible, although I have not succeeded, the mind is a very complex issue, I mentally walk between suicide and be seeing the present, but what is supposed to be a good life? if one (myself) able to answer that question is a good start
 
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Deep Breaths
Aug 25, 2018
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I'm not sure "100% recovery" is possible with severe mental illness. It's more like finding a new normal that is acceptable to you.

This "acceptable new normal" is possible even after all the ideation and preparation as well as an attempt. I've known other mental illness sufferers who have been to the edge and back - or even over the edge and back - and some of them have recovered to a point where they are able to carry on with life.
 
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Sensei

Sensei

剣道家
Nov 4, 2019
6,336
I agree with @Grumble. I don"t think you ever can recover to 100 % if you've had a deep depression. It scars you for life. However, I know people who feel that they've recovered to 95 %. That's good enough for me if I manage to get out of this alive.
 
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Epsilon0

Enlightened
Dec 28, 2019
1,874
Most of the patients I met in group therapy, even those who were quite far in their recovery process, struggled in one way or another.

As far as I'm concerned, recovery for me means having a somewhat functioning life and holding down a job. I will never be as healthy and carefree as I once way, so, in that sense total recovery is just a dream.

It all depends on what your goal is and what recovery means to you, personally.

When I was on the verge of losing in mind, alone in the darkest pits or physical and mental hell, all I wanted was to feel the sunshine on my face again and hug a tree one last time. That would have felt like the biggest victory.
 
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Dead beat dad

Dead beat dad

Enlightened
Mar 5, 2019
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Has anyone done it? After all the ideation and preparation. Let alone the methods and survival instincts, i wanna stay but i don't wanna suffer I want a good life (who doesn't right?) like is it possible?
Funny I was thinking about this earlier.
For some of us (definitely for me), I've been in the dark for so long I don't know if I could describe recovery and would know if it happened.
That said I am happy to believe in the concept of hope even if I cannot apply it.
Peace brother
DBD
 
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TheGoodGuy

TheGoodGuy

Visionary
Aug 27, 2018
2,999
Imo people whos depression and suicidal thoughts were brought on by the hormonal change of entering puberty they will never recover fully they were happy children but the hormones messed up their minds so there is no fixing that.

For adults like a 30 year old who for the first time his/her life are going through a rough patch and feeling depressed and suicidal I am sure they can recover 100% obviously not in all cases but their changes are circumstancial e.g. losing a job, a loved one dies, getting dumped etc.
 
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ctbUniquectb

Pariah
Jan 7, 2020
489
Yeah, I want to kill myself because I had basically recovered. I miss it.

Like, I still needed to take meds, and life has its ups and downs for everyone: but I was managing.

Then, I had surgery, and shit went all to hell.
 
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clandestine

clandestine

still rolling stones
Nov 17, 2019
47
Recovery, I think it's about learning, evolving and becoming a better, different version of yourself. I don't view it like I'll be back to who I was before 100%. You'll never be the same person you were before, just like with any experience in life, particularly traumas and suffering. All suffering is also an opportunity. An opportunity to make the choice to use the lessons you've learned and experienced to inform your character for the better, to become stronger, more resilient, more compassionate etc.
 
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Sensei

Sensei

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Nov 4, 2019
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Recovery, I think it's about learning, evolving and becoming a better, different version of yourself. I don't view it like I'll be back to who I was before 100%. You'll never be the same person you were before, just like with any experience in life, particularly traumas and suffering. All suffering is also an opportunity. An opportunity to make the choice to use the lessons you've learned and experienced to inform your character for the better, to become stronger, more resilient, more compassionate etc.

Very true. Literally everyone I've talked to IRL who has gone through a deep depression talks about "before the depression" and "after the depression" as if it was B.C. and A.D. It's an irreversibly life-changing experience. It's my impression that those who manage to get out on the other side usually, but not always, are more humble and compassionate than they were before. It may sound conceited, but I believe that I've become a better human being since I fell ill. I don't want to cause other people pain unless it's absolutely necessary, because I know what true pain is now.
 
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clandestine

clandestine

still rolling stones
Nov 17, 2019
47
Very true. Literally everyone I've talked to IRL who has gone through a deep depression talks about "before the depression" and "after the depression" as if it was B.C. and A.D. It's an irreversibly life-changing experience. It's my impression that those who manage to get out on the other side usually, but not always, are more humble and compassionate than they were before. It may sound conceited, but I believe that I've become a better human being since I fell ill. I don't want to cause other people pain unless it's absolutely necessary, because I know what true pain is now.

You don't sound conceited at all (: I think the same thing for myself, I've definitely become a better person after becoming ill too.
 
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PhilosOfDoom

PhilosOfDoom

Experienced
Nov 22, 2019
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Has anyone done it? After all the ideation and preparation. Let alone the methods and survival instincts, i wanna stay but i don't wanna suffer I want a good life (who doesn't right?) like is it possible?
Depends what you mean "recovered." Depression has lasting effects on how you cognitively "react" to images, and other stimuli. However, ideation can definitely be beaten. Many people have reported living fulfilling lives from different treatments. Nothing is guaranteed, but it's definitely possible. It's a life-long struggle, but if done well, a person can live a happy and fulfilling life. The root cause must be handled with, though. There will be lasting remnants for almost all mental disorders/illnesses.
 
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BeenDoneForSoLong

BeenDoneForSoLong

Can't wait to be another statistic
Feb 6, 2019
82
Yes of course it is. They're probably not going to be on this forum though. It's the entire reason why society will never implement assisted suicide just for depression, some people can and WILL make a full recovery.

A month ago or so I thought I was almost there tbh- with the help of my amazing girlfriend. But I'm back here, pretty much relapsed, drinking more... and wishing everyday that maybe a truck will veer off and hit me, killing me withth out having to involve people I care about with the pain of suicide.

Yes full recovery is possible, but sinking into the depression is more 'comfy' and easier than fighting it; which is why it's probably easier to tell yourself it's not.
 
a.n.kirillov

a.n.kirillov

velle non discitur
Nov 17, 2019
1,831
Very true. Literally everyone I've talked to IRL who has gone through a deep depression talks about "before the depression" and "after the depression" as if it was B.C. and A.D. It's an irreversibly life-changing experience. It's my impression that those who manage to get out on the other side usually, but not always, are more humble and compassionate than they were before. It may sound conceited, but I believe that I've become a better human being since I fell ill. I don't want to cause other people pain unless it's absolutely necessary, because I know what true pain is now.
yes exactly! interesting that this seems to be a universal thing. For me it is a qualitative change that has taken place over a few days (when I had my breakdown) and life hasn't been the same since. Really interesting that you mention this
 
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