is partial suspension bad?

[ava_sparkle]

What ways can partial hanging be unsuccessful? Have there been reported instances of someone ending up comatose or disabled from partial suspension? I'm curious why some of the experts here warn people away from the method. I'd love if something like SN could work for me but my digestive system doesn't work that well so I'm not sure if it would be absorbed

 

[allKae]

an unsuccessful partial hanging can result in permanent problems.
I don't want to scare you, after all, this is my preferred method after CO2.
understand that if you research more about this method, in the posts about partial hanging and know types of ropes, knots, etc., you will have a great chance of it working out in the best possible way.Reality comes with time, train, do it, I found the carotid arteries, just don't do CTB before you're sure.
just research this method better, good luck friend!!

 

[DTA]

I tried it a couple months ago. Obviously didn't work for me. From what I gather it might have been due to the climbing rope I used.
I just hung there. I reached the point of almost losing consciousness, then just hung there and hung there. It wasn't overly painful, at least.

 

[Holu]

It's not bad, it's just significantly harder to pull off and generally it's better to just do a full suspension.

 

[EternalShore]

It isn't too hard to set up~ However, I and probably half the site has attempted it or another and obviously failed~ Basically, it has an extremely low reliability~ However, it has the same issue as full suspension hanging in that if you are "saved" within 30 minutes, you could end brain dead, paralyzed, etc.~ Additionally, you could break the support or the thing you used to hang yourself if they're not strong enough, possibly also causing damage to you if you were already unconscious by that point~ SN is much safer generally~

 

[bipolar22]

Its not bad inherently obviously it can be bad if you make it that way. If you research a bit you might get a good understanding of how to do it. Reliability is less than full but overall very high. Reliability in any method is tied to competence of execution anyway but overall partial hanging is reliable and pain-free if not outright euphoric if done wisely.
The forum isnt a good representation of it. Its kinda like asking people who are waiting in the line of the car repair shop of how reliable cars are.

 

[PI3.14]

I don't think partial is bad, it's just more difficult to pull off than full suspension.

It's my method of choice, it will have to fail many times before I switch to full suspension.

 

[AreWeWinning]

I eventually attempted full suspension, hanging from a rafter in the garage. The same thing happened. I hung there, powered through the head-explodey feeling, but could not lose consciousness.

I tried it a couple months ago. Obviously didn't work for me. From what I gather it might have been due to the climbing rope I used.
I just hung there. I reached the point of almost losing consciousness, then just hung there and hung there. It wasn't overly painful, at least.

In your earlier post (see quote above), you said you did full suspension eventually. It seems odd that now you're commenting on a partial hanging thread, saying you "tried it a couple months ago" (see above), without mentioning the full suspension part.

Did you attempt full suspension, or was it partial after all?

I attempted suicide by cop. I SWATed myself. Long story short it got me over 10 years in prison.

Again, I have to keep myself as private as possible, but my crime was non-violent. The German guys said what I did would have got me a fine in Germany and perhaps required a counseling course.

I don't want to discredit you too much, but you also said (see above) you attempted suicide by cop, which got you into prison. Then, in your recent post (see above) you say your crime was non-violent? What kind of non-violent crime could get you killed by a cop?

I'm not trying to pick on you. You come across as a nice person, and I respect that. However, there is so much misinformation about hanging, and when someone says full suspension didn't work, I can't help but feel sceptical and wonder if the story is being told accurately.

Full suspension is one of the most lethal methods. Its lethality rate is as high as using a gun or jumping from a height.

What ways can partial hanging be unsuccessful? Have there been reported instances of someone ending up comatose or disabled from partial suspension?

Risks with partial. Regarding @ava_sparkle's question, partial can be risky for a few reasons. For example, when your body moves and jerks around after you've lost consciousness, it can reduce pressure on the neck, and you might regain consciousness. The other problem is that it's easy to miscalculate the height. The rope and the knots might stretch under load more than you'd think. If you start off in a kneeling position, for example, it can easily turn into sitting, which doesn't put enough pressure on the neck. There can be a huge difference in effectiveness between different positions.

Ending up disabled or comatose is not impossible, but I think it's unlikely. Most of the involuntary body movements happen within the first couple of minutes, and if you "wake up" and back out within that time period, you're unlikely to suffer any permanent injuries. If you don't, and you remain hung, and no one finds you for at least 30 minutes, you'll almost certainly die.

 

[DTA]

In your earlier post (see quote above), you said you did full suspension eventually. It seems odd that now you're commenting on a partial hanging thread, saying you "tried it a couple months ago" (see above), without mentioning the full suspension part.

Did you attempt full suspension, or was it partial after all?




I don't want to discredit you too much, but you also said (see above) you attempted suicide by cop, which got you into prison. Then, in your recent post (see above) you say your crime was non-violent? What kind of non-violent crime could get you killed by a cop?

I'm not trying to pick on you. You come across as a nice person, and I respect that. However, there is so much misinformation about hanging, and when someone says full suspension didn't work, I can't help but feel sceptical and wonder if the story is being told accurately.

Full suspension is one of the most lethal methods. Its lethality rate is as high as using a gun or jumping from a height.

Risks with partial. Regarding @ava_sparkle's question, partial can be risky for a few reasons. For example, when your body moves and jerks around after you've lost consciousness, it can reduce pressure on the neck, and you might regain consciousness. The other problem is that it's easy to miscalculate the height. The rope and the knots might stretch under load more than you'd think. If you start off in a kneeling position, for example, it can easily turn into sitting, which doesn't put enough pressure on the neck. There can be a huge difference in effectiveness between different positions.

Ending up disabled or comatose is not impossible, but I think it's unlikely. Most of the involuntary body movements happen within the first couple of minutes, and if you "wake up" and back out within that time period, you're unlikely to suffer any permanent injuries. If you don't, and you remain hung, and no one finds you for at least 30 minutes, you'll almost certainly die.

Over the course of a weekend I tried partial suspension twice, then full suspension. I tied the rope from a rafter in the garage. When the partial didn't work I raised the rope tied to the same rafter then stepped off a stepladder and kicked it away to do full suspension. But I just swung there and never lost consciousness.

When I couldn't stand the strain on my spine anymore I wrapped my legs around a nearby support column and shimmied up enough to be able to get the rope off my neck. I don't know why it didn't work. I could sorta breathe while hanging, but the point is to cut off blood flow not breathing. Maybe I'm not heavy enough, maybe the wrong rope was used. Maybe if I had just toughed it out a little longer it would have worked. To be honest I was scared of drop hanging to try and break my neck.

As for the crime, I don't want to go into detail that could potentially identify me. But I can say that people don't realize how crazy the feds specifically are. A simple anonymous phone tip that someone has an illegal gun, illegal pictures, is dealing drugs, is running a media piracy business, a threat being made, etc... is all it takes to provoke a raid. No real evidence needs to be provided. Violent crime or not, they routinely send 20-30 man SWAT teams with full tactical gear and assault rifles to execute pre-dawn search warrants. (Side note: they always confiscate security cam footage.) They kick or ram the doors down, hold every occupant at gunpoint, shoot the dog if it tries to bite. With all those guns pointed at a person, it doesn't take much to make them shoot.

And the sentences are extreme. If you can believe it I got off really light with only 10 years. There's many guys doing 80+ years for possessing a single baggy of crack. They hand out life sentences like candy on Halloween. Weirdly enough, violent crimes often seem to get lesser sentences.

They also have "conspiracy" to charge one with when they can't get real evidence. Say, for example, they believe a guy is dealing drugs but can't prove it. They'll use an informant 's testimony as the only evidence. Then they'll say, "Well, the trunk of your car is X cubic feet and COULD therefore hold Y amount of drugs, so we're charging you (and will convict) with that much because that's what you were probably going to sell." They'll give a man life imprisonment over it when no drugs whatsoever were found. No joke or exaggeration! It's called ghost dope.

Sorry to be long-winded. The tldr version is, they hand out lots of time and I actually got off really easy.