Method Just got sn. Need some guidance ASAP

[reignerreigns]

Ok so this is definetely happening ivr been a member for a year if i recall correcrly, today i managed to get ahold of sn. I bought it out of a compulsion and im going in blind without any other meds. Im fasting qnd by the time i plan to do so will amount to 10 hours roughly. I plan to go for it at around 2-3 am so that i wont be discovered. What are your thoughts on this?

 

[mayayo]

Is it impossible for you to get any medicine? I'd strongly recommend antacids at least, judging by everything I've read here.

 

[TheHolySword]

ideally you shouldn't go in blind. methods work better when they're planned. even if you don't take any meds with it you should know how to prepare and take the SN. rushing attempts and not thinking about them often leads to failure. either way, i hope you find the peace you're looking for.

 

[pollux]

You already have the drug, it's not going to evaporate. Calm down and look for information about what you're trying to do.

 

[reignerreigns]

Thanks to you all fro your answers... Im having second thoughts, i had been planning this scenario for a long while. The only possible time i cam think of when im lone is at 2-3am...still youre right, i must know how to prepare it cause all i know is preparing 3 cups of 25g sn in 50ml. I need to devise an idea for the measurements without arising suspicion. Do you know what meds requeried for this are usually over the counter? (i live in spain in case thats helpful fpr said question) also for what its worth i wanna thank everyone for helping...if its ppssible i wanna return the favour by hinting where i got the sn, idk if its against the sites rules tho.

 

[APeacefulPlace]

Hello, you seem to have the essentials covered ( SN > 95%, place you won't be found be 6 hours after SN intake, and presumably following the protocol correctly ) . If you desire a more peaceful and reliable death then I would suggest the following:

1. Painkillers - preferably Paracetamol ( Tylenol ) over Ibuprofen ( Advil ) because Ibuprofen may cause stomach pain, recommended dose is 1,000 mg, 1 hour before SN intake.
2. Antiemetic - dimenhydrinate ( Dramamine ) technically an antihistamine but has antiemetic properties with lower doses, recommended amount 50-100 mg 40 mins before SN intake, warning this could cause side effects - dry mouth, and sweating. Should only be used when other prescription-controlled antiemetics cannot be obtained.
3. Sedative - diphenhydramine ( Benadryl ), for mild sedation, recommended dose 50 mg 1 hour before SN intake.
4. Local anesthetic - Benzocaine throat thumbing spray, mouth wash or gel, your pick.

All of the meds listed above are OTC can be found by your local pharmacy. Hope you find everything you're looking for OP.

 

[SNastablesalt]

Ok so this is definetely happening ivr been a member for a year if i recall correcrly, today i managed to get ahold of sn. I bought it out of a compulsion and im going in blind without any other meds. Im fasting qnd by the time i plan to do so will amount to 10 hours roughly. I plan to go for it at around 2-3 am so that i wont be discovered. What are your thoughts on this?

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[reignerreigns]

Hello, you seem to have the essentials covered ( SN > 95%, place you won't be found be 6 hours after SN intake, and presumably following the protocol correctly ) . If you desire a more peaceful and reliable death then I would suggest the following:

1. Painkillers - preferably Paracetamol ( Tylenol ) over Ibuprofen ( Advil ) because Ibuprofen may cause stomach pain, recommended dose is 1,000 mg, 1 hour before SN intake.
2. Antiemetic - dimenhydrinate ( Dramamine ) technically an antihistamine but has antiemetic properties with lower doses, recommended amount 50-100 mg 40 mins before SN intake, warning this could cause side effects - dry mouth, and sweating. Should only be used when other prescription-controlled antiemetics cannot be obtained.
3. Sedative - diphenhydramine ( Benadryl ), for mild sedation, recommended dose 50 mg 1 hour before SN intake.
4. Local anesthetic - Benzocaine throat thumbing spray, mouth wash or gel, your pick.

All of the meds listed above are OTC can be found by your local pharmacy. Hope you find everything you're looking for OP.

do i need a prescription for benadryl and dramamine?

 

[APeacefulPlace]

do i need a prescription for benadryl and dramamine?

No, both are OTC in Spain.

 

[reignerreigns]

ok so i got paracetamol and meto im only missing benadryl. Also according to sn bible antacid is also recommended, ive got omeprazol and i wanna know when im supposed to take that med if i carry out the stat dose regime...i mean is it 1 hour prior, 40 mins? also how much am i supposed to take?

 

[APeacefulPlace]

Also according to sn bible antacid is also recommended

You may be mistaken, Vizzy's SN Bible states that antacids are not recommended. Here's the reasoning below.

Why it is no longer necessary/recommended to use an antacid with sn method?

Basically raising the pH of the stomach (lowering the acidity) decreases the SN converting into Nitric oxide which is a vasodilator that will drop your blood pressure drastically resulting in unconsciousness. This is the main and fastest mechanism that SN knocks you out and antacids can slow this process resulting in you staying conscious longer.

I know some people will get angry if they hear antiacid is not recommended as per ppeh but stan followed ppeh for the most part, he wrote his guide with the help of ppeh book available in 2019 right now we are in 2023 so things change, opinions change, ctb is always gonna be something changing as we do more research, maybe in future ppeh will add the antiacid back to the protocol, we don't know but for now it is not recommended.

 

[Lawliet]

Hello, you seem to have the essentials covered ( SN > 95%, place you won't be found be 6 hours after SN intake, and presumably following the protocol correctly ) . If you desire a more peaceful and reliable death then I would suggest the following:

1. Painkillers - preferably Paracetamol ( Tylenol ) over Ibuprofen ( Advil ) because Ibuprofen may cause stomach pain, recommended dose is 1,000 mg, 1 hour before SN intake.
2. Antiemetic - dimenhydrinate ( Dramamine ) technically an antihistamine but has antiemetic properties with lower doses, recommended amount 50-100 mg 40 mins before SN intake, warning this could cause side effects - dry mouth, and sweating. Should only be used when other prescription-controlled antiemetics cannot be obtained.
3. Sedative - diphenhydramine ( Benadryl ), for mild sedation, recommended dose 50 mg 1 hour before SN intake.
4. Local anesthetic - Benzocaine throat thumbing spray, mouth wash or gel, your pick.

All of the meds listed above are OTC can be found by your local pharmacy. Hope you find everything you're looking for OP.

when was the time boosted from 4 to 6 hours?? i haven't been on in awhile

 

[APeacefulPlace]

when was the time boosted from 4 to 6 hours?? i haven't been on in awhile

Longer time without intervention is recommended ( ensures higher chance of death ), the ppeh suggests a period greater than 24 hours with the recent update.

 

[Lawliet]

Longer time without intervention is recommended ( ensures higher chance of death ), the ppeh suggests a period greater than 24 hours with the recent update.

jesus, that's daunting. i'm homebound so that's impossible. has the latest been posted to the site or is it members only from that other site

 

[reignerreigns]

I think ill go with 4 hours cause im also homebound and im literally never along, so 4 hours its the longest i can afford...otherwise i might have to do it as i originally said, going for it at 3 am, it may buy me a bit extra time but i feel itll pose so much higher a risks cause there will be people at home only asleep. On the other hand thanks for clarifying what i misunderstood, ill rule out omeprazol and will just go with paracetamol, meto and the sedative

 

[APeacefulPlace]

has the latest been posted to the site or is it members only from that other site

I'm assuming you mean the PPEH as the " site ", and the "members only " as the PPEH forums, unfortunately I do not have access to the forums but only the e handbook. Also yes, latest update ( January 2025 ) confirms the non intervention time under " Eye Witness Accounts ".

 

[be or not to be]

I'm assuming you mean the PPEH as the " site ", and the "members only " as the PPEH forums, unfortunately I do not have access to the forums but only the e handbook. Also yes, latest update ( January 2025 ) confirms the non intervention time under " Eye Witness Accounts ".

I have the book, purchased in October 2024. If I log in, do I directly access the updated version? I also don't have access to the forums.

 

[APeacefulPlace]

I have the book, purchased in October 2024. If I log in, do I directly access the updated version? I also don't have access to the forums.

If you brought the book/print, it does not come with the e-book, however, if you purchased the book directly from Exit ( not Amazon ), you get 50% off on the e-book using code epph50 anytime. Only the e-book have the latest updates. Print books are anew annually ( January 2025 print is available now for pre-order on PP site ). Hope this helps.

( Edit - @be or not to be, e-book then yes you have direct access to recent updates. )

 

[be or not to be]

Sorry to the OP for hijacking the thread but, yes I have the online version which includes 2 years of updates. I don't have to pay more in 2 years to see if there are updates.

 

[reignerreigns]

ok so i got my hands on a antihistamine sedative, but its not benadryl, the branding is "telfast" and its 120mg compressed per pill as opposed to 25mg on benadryl, but i have cold feet on whether this will do the trick, does anyone know?

 

[danny10]

I'd definately get benzos to go along with it.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Longer time without intervention is recommended ( ensures higher chance of death ), the ppeh suggests a period greater than 24 hours with the recent update.

Why >24 hours? Isn't SN fatal way before that (assuming you follow protocol)?

 

[Eudaimonic]

ok so i got my hands on a antihistamine sedative, but its not benadryl, the branding is "telfast" and its 120mg compressed per pill as opposed to 25mg on benadryl, but i have cold feet on whether this will do the trick, does anyone know?

Antihistamines are not likely to be effective for SN. Dopamine antagonists such as metoclopramide (best) or domperidone (second best) are instead advised because they speed gastric emptying, meaning faster/greater absorption of the substance. Ondansetron (serotonin antagonist) may provide additional benefit due to reducing/preventing some vomiting, but its benefits in this case have not been established. Benzodiazepines are the recommended sedative. None of these drugs are strictly necessary, but they are strongly recommended for greater reliability and peacefulness.

 

[AnotherSadDay]

I'm assuming you mean the PPEH as the " site ", and the "members only " as the PPEH forums, unfortunately I do not have access to the forums but only the e handbook. Also yes, latest update ( January 2025 ) confirms the non intervention time under " Eye Witness Accounts ".

Hello, do you have access to the most recent edition or know where to get it? I just want to know what have change from the 2022 version I got against the recent one

 

[reignerreigns]

Antihistamines are not likely to be effective for SN. Dopamine antagonists such as metoclopramide (best) or domperidone (second best) are instead advised because they speed gastric emptying, meaning faster/greater absorption of the substance. Ondansetron (serotonin antagonist) may provide additional benefit due to reducing/preventing some vomiting, but its benefits in this case have not been established. Benzodiazepines are the recommended sedative. None of these drugs are strictly necessary, but they are strongly recommended for greater reliability and peacefulness.

ok so this is the plan i have for right now

1. start fasting at 3pm on day 1 till 11am on day 2 (19 hour fasting roughly)
2. take 1000mg of paracetamol at 11am (1hour before sn)
3. for the record, this one is optional should i not manage to get my hands on benzos. Take 120mg of telfast at 11am (1 hour before sn)
4. take 30 mg of metoclopramide (antiemetic) at 11.20am (40 mins before sn)
5. dissolving 25mg of sn in 50-70ml of plain water whilst taking the meds
6. at 12am drink the dissolved sn

my 3 questions are;
-ive been looking into diazepam (benzos) and it seems its not otc in spain. Mind you i couldnt get the benadryl cause its supposedly not available so is there other any alternative?
-will drinking water alongside the meds will affect the overall procedure?
-i calculated a 4 hour time frame for the sn to take effect and succeed (from 12am till 4pm-5pm if everything goes well), thats the longest i can afford for the time being

 

[Eudaimonic]

ok so this is the plan i have for right now

1. start fasting at 3pm on day 1 till 11am on day 2 (19 hour fasting roughly)
2. take 1000mg of paracetamol at 11am (1hour before sn)
3. for the record, this one is optional should i not manage to get my hands on benzos. Take 120mg of telfast at 11am (1 hour before sn)
4. take 30 mg of metoclopramide (antiemetic) at 11.20am (40 mins before sn)
5. dissolving 25mg of sn in 50-70ml of plain water whilst taking the meds

Overall, this looks good.

50 mL of water is the amount suggested.

Please check the time of onset for any sedative you use so that you don't black out.

You might want to make a backup drink in case you vomit and feel that it's necessary to re-dose. That's what I plan to do if I use SN.

my 3 questions are;
-ive been looking into diazepam (benzos) and it seems its not otc in spain. Mind you i couldnt get the benadryl cause its supposedly not available so is there other any alternative?

Yes. The alternative is RC benzos or benzo pro-drugs if you want to do it legally. I don't know which of these are legal in Spain, so please do your own research. Here's a paper that lists numerous RCs: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7569319/

Edit: I found a source for RC benzos that will ship to Spain, and it seems legitimate from the cursory research that I did. Spain is in the EU, so it makes sense. At any rate, it's definitely possible.

Please check the equivalence charts, time of onset, and the most prominent effects for any benzo/pro-drug that you opt for. Also, test it beforehand.

-will drinking water alongside the meds will affect the overall procedure?

Please consult Stan's guide for more detail, but what is advised is to stop drinking anything two hours prior to the SN. As for taking the SN, it is suggested to use as little water as possible to reduce the risk of vomiting and to make it easier to see how much SN you have vomited in the event that you do.

-i calculated a 4 hour time frame for the sn to take effect and succeed (from 12am till 4pm-5pm if everything goes well), thats the longest i can afford for the time being

That's cutting it a little close, but it should be alright.

 

[ihatemyselfwanttodi]

why do people recommend at least 6 hours if it seems like most cases people pass within 40 minutes or so?

 

[reignerreigns]

ive been trying to get ahold of any sedative possible but it seems all even the ones suggested in stans guide are prescribed only...my only option is amazon but first idk how reliable those drugs are and second i cant have it shipped since i would arise suspicion. In short ill go without sedatives.