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SomewhereAlongThe

SomewhereAlongThe

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May 17, 2024
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Weeeeoooooooweeoooooo That's what it made me feel like, and the oxygen dropped down to 84% on my oximeter. After feeling how much of an effect it had on me, I knew it is was good stuff. I think I even convulsed after getting air. I had no idea what was happening around me lol. It wasn't unpleasant, and this test can be dangerous if your oxygen drops to 40, it can cause irreversible damage. So make sure you're careful if you do this test!
 
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SomewhereAlongThe

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how does it feel?
It almost feels like when you pass out without knowing it while falling asleep. At first it feels like your head is compressing as you breathe the air. You notice yourself quickly passing out, that's when it's time to check the oximeter.
 
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It almost feels like when you pass out without knowing it while falling asleep. At first it feels like your head is compressing as you breathe the air. You notice yourself quickly passing out, that's when it's time to check the oximeter.
Wow
Didn't you feel the IS?
How do you calculate the amount of gas needed?
 
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theshund

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You're playing with fire there. Unless you're happy for a 'test' to be accidentally terminal.

How on Earth did you get an oximeter inside the exit bag? Or are you doing this in some kind of vacuum sealed chamber? *(If you are I'm jealous).
 
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SomewhereAlongThe

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Wow
Didn't you feel the IS?
How do you calculate the amount of gas needed?
I didn't feel any SI, because I knew with what I was doing I wouldn't die.
You need approximately 600L of nitrogen gas to last you for 40 minutes at the flow rate of 15 LPM. I just calculate everything using chat GPT and other references from there.
You're playing with fire there. Unless you're happy for a 'test' to be accidentally terminal.

How on Earth did you get an oximeter inside the exit bag? Or are you doing this in some kind of vacuum sealed chamber? *(If you are I'm jealous).
I did the blackout test, where you simply put the bag to your face, and the oximeter was on my finger. I don't think it could of been terminal because the bag would drop to the ground and I would faint while the gas is on, potentially wasting a lot of gas at most, but that's it.
No I didn't do anything fancy with the oximeter, I'm not that smart. Lmao.
 
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NegevChina

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Weeeeoooooooweeoooooo That's what it made me feel like, and the oxygen dropped down to 84% on my oximeter. After feeling how much of an effect it had on me, I knew it is was good stuff. I think I even convulsed after getting air. I had no idea what was happening around me lol. It wasn't unpleasant, and this test can be dangerous if your oxygen drops to 40, it can cause irreversible damage. So make sure you're careful if you do this test!
Can you share how you constructed the exit bag? Was it tight on your neck or just snug? Did you secure the Nitrogen tube to the Exit bag or just slide it in?
 
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idelttoilfsadness21

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Weeeeoooooooweeoooooo That's what it made me feel like, and the oxygen dropped down to 84% on my oximeter. After feeling how much of an effect it had on me, I knew it is was good stuff. I think I even convulsed after getting air. I had no idea what was happening around me lol. It wasn't unpleasant, and this test can be dangerous if your oxygen drops to 40, it can cause irreversible damage. So make sure you're careful if you do this test!
Try a scuba mask during the nighttime :))
 
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SomewhereAlongThe

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Can you share how you constructed the exit bag? Was it tight on your neck or just snug? Did you secure the Nitrogen tube to the Exit bag or just slide it in?
I just constructed my exit bag today actually. During that test I didn't wear an exit bag, I just used the oven bag on its own with the tube in it. I placed the opening of the bag to my face.

Today I made the exit bag. I rolled up the rim of the oven bag and taped it so it creates a pocket for the thread. I put a section of tape on the front and then cut a slit, being careful not to cut the second layer of the pocket. Then I threaded the elastic through the slit and into the pocket until the elastic came back around; I used tweezers to grab it through the slit. Then I put the elastic ends into a toggle and voila!

As per the snugness I'd say it should be a tight snug, enough so that two fingers fits under, but if that feels loose then keeping it a little tighter won't hurt, it's good to have a positive air flow there so that cO2 has somewhere to go and ambient air is blocked by the positive pressure.

I personally would always secure the tube to the bag.
 
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I just constructed my exit bag today actually. During that test I didn't wear an exit bag, I just used the oven bag on its own with the tube in it. I placed the opening of the bag to my face.

Today I made the exit bag. I rolled up the rim of the oven bag and taped it so it creates a pocket for the thread. I put a section of tape on the front and then cut a slit, being careful not to cut the second layer of the pocket. Then I threaded the elastic through the slit and into the pocket until the elastic came back around; I used tweezers to grab it through the slit. Then I put the elastic ends into a toggle and voila!

As per the snugness I'd say it should be a tight snug, enough so that two fingers fits under, but if that feels loose then keeping it a little tighter won't hurt, it's good to have a positive air flow there so that cO2 has somewhere to go and ambient air is blocked by the positive pressure.

I personally would always secure the tube to the bag.
I bought the oven bag but I'm worried its a little thin and might tear. So I used a vacuum bag for storing clothes. Created a pocket in the same method you described but wrapped it around a fixed elastic band. Tried it on, it was to loose so I opened it and tightened the elastic band a bit more and closed it back. It feels firmly snug and I keep in mind the tube needs to get between the bag and my neck making it a bit more tight.
I'll secure the tube to the bag half way in.
Do you know if any spasms are expected while being unconscious that might cause me to ruin the setup with random movement of mt hands? I'm thinking of attempting in my car with the seat belt fastened and seat leaning a bit backwards.
 
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I bought the oven bag but I'm worried its a little thin and might tear. So I used a vacuum bag for storing clothes. Created a pocket in the same method you described but wrapped it around a fixed elastic band. Tried it on, it was to loose so I opened it and tightened the elastic band a bit more and closed it back. It feels firmly snug and I keep in mind the tube needs to get between the bag and my neck making it a bit more tight.
I'll secure the tube to the bag half way in.
Do you know if any spasms are expected while being unconscious that might cause me to ruin the setup with random movement of mt hands? I'm thinking of attempting in my car with the seat belt fastened and seat leaning a bit backwards.

The oven bags I got are on the thin side, but I'm not worried about it tearing, because of how firm the material is. I wouldn't worry about it being ultra tight, as long as you can fit 2 fingers in there and not 3 or 4.

My exit bag can get very snug.

As far as the spasms go, I've heard that during hypoxia you do spasm, however it depends for how severe the spasms are. If I were you, I wouldn't take any risks. I would strap my hands down.
 

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The oven bags I got are on the thin side, but I'm not worried about it tearing, because of how firm the material is. I wouldn't worry about it being ultra tight, as long as you can fit 2 fingers in there and not 3 or 4.

My exit bag can get very snug.

As far as the spasms go, I've heard that during hypoxia you do spasm, however it depends for how severe the spasms are. If I were you, I wouldn't take any risks. I would strap my hands down.
Indeed, the Dignitas witnesses who participated in the inert gas efforts a decade ago reported that the four people who CTB had spasms after becoming unconscious
 
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Jul 14, 2024
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I didn't feel any SI, because I knew with what I was doing I wouldn't die.
You need approximately 600L of nitrogen gas to last you for 40 minutes at the flow rate of 15 LPM. I just calculate everything using chat GPT and other references from there.
Do not use ChatGPT for things your life depends upon.
40 minutes of 15 LPM is the standard method, but both numbers have plenty of redundancy.
The main thing is that if you pass out, it doesn't really matter how long you planned to using it for. There is a risk you will be in a hypoxic environment for a considerable amount of time and sustain brain damage or death.
Five minutes without oxygen can be life-changing.
I'm glad you were careful but it's probably time to stop experimenting.
 
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Do not use ChatGPT for things your life depends upon.
40 minutes of 15 LPM is the standard method, but both numbers have plenty of redundancy.
The main thing is that if you pass out, it doesn't really matter how long you planned to using it for. There is a risk you will be in a hypoxic environment for a considerable amount of time and sustain brain damage or death.
Five minutes without oxygen can be life-changing.
I'm glad you were careful but it's probably time to stop experimenting.
I think that chatgpt gave me accurate calculations when it came to how much gas is left in my cylinder and how much gas is in litres. I don't tend to use it for much else other than that. Like for example, it's telling me that a bed is a good option to use for my setup with Nitrogen gas, which I think is kind of ridiculous. With certain medical things like it describing how hypoxia works and if I'll experience Hypercapnia, I sorta of trust because it feels like it references things from medical sources.

I've stopped experimenting because I realize the blackout test is dangerous. I only ever needed to do it once and see.
Do not use ChatGPT for things your life depends upon.
40 minutes of 15 LPM is the standard method, but both numbers have plenty of redundancy.
The main thing is that if you pass out, it doesn't really matter how long you planned to using it for. There is a risk you will be in a hypoxic environment for a considerable amount of time and sustain brain damage or death.
Five minutes without oxygen can be life-changing.
I'm glad you were careful but it's probably time to stop experimenting.
I also have a question for you, I'm looking for a stable chair to do this on, as rn all I have is a stable office chair but I think that could be a bad idea.
What kind of chair do you recommend and do you have Canadian amazon links to show me with?
 
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*AzRaEl*

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Dec 27, 2024
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I think that chatgpt gave me accurate calculations when it came to how much gas is left in my cylinder and how much gas is in litres. I don't tend to use it for much else other than that. Like for example, it's telling me that a bed is a good option to use for my setup with Nitrogen gas, which I think is kind of ridiculous. With certain medical things like it describing how hypoxia works and if I'll experience Hypercapnia, I sorta of trust because it feels like it references things from medical sources.

I've stopped experimenting because I realize the blackout test is dangerous. I only ever needed to do it once and see.

I also have a question for you, I'm looking for a stable chair to do this on, as rn all I have is a stable office chair but I think that could be a bad idea.
What kind of chair do you recommend and do you have Canadian amazon links to show me with?
For chair, I'm going with IKEA Poang. Slight recline, arms for attaching straps, comfortable
 
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SomewhereAlongThe

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For chair, I'm going with IKEA Poang. Slight recline, arms for attaching straps, comfortable
Thanks for that recommendation, unfortunately I don't have the money to get that chair. Also, I'm wondering, isn't it bad idea to get a chair with a tall backrest where the head would come up against, won't that interfere with the exit bag?
 
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*AzRaEl*

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Dec 27, 2024
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Thanks for that recommendation, unfortunately I don't have the money to get that chair. Also, I'm wondering, isn't it bad idea to get a chair with a tall backrest where the head would come up against, won't that interfere with the exit bag?
They can usually be picked up for cheap as used, sometimes people give them away for free. I hadn't considered that the headrest might interfere with the bag. It's possible so I'll need to test it.
 
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SomewhereAlongThe

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They can usually be picked up for cheap as used, sometimes people give them away for free. I hadn't considered that the headrest might interfere with the bag. It's possible so I'll need to test it.
I just put the bag on and pressed my hand against the back of my head as if it were up against something, and I figure the exit bag will just inflate around where the pressure is applied, and nothing will happen.
 
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userharsh

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Dec 10, 2024
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Weeeeoooooooweeoooooo That's what it made me feel like, and the oxygen dropped down to 84% on my oximeter. After feeling how much of an effect it had on me, I knew it is was good stuff. I think I even convulsed after getting air. I had no idea what was happening around me lol. It wasn't unpleasant, and this test can be dangerous if your oxygen drops to 40, it can cause irreversible damage. So make sure you're careful if you do this test!
Lol oxygen pulse meter never reading down during breath holding, than how you tested it with nitrogen, Lol