Story Living as an atheist in an islamic country.

[Utter_emptiness]

From 12 july 2020 to this day:
If I could get one wish in this world, I wouldn't truly wish for wealth, beauty, intelligence…etc, I
would simply wish for religions to disappear out of this planet for good, it's literally making a lot of
us miserable (my heart goes to afghani women). and I know it's kind of hypocritical of me to
consistently look/ask for my freedom while simultaneously wanting to take people's beliefs away from them but I'm genuinely tired.
A while back, my family found out about my apostasy, and let me tell you it wasn't pleasant at all; I
literally had to put up with hearing my mom cry for three consecutive days and ignore my existence
for a week, my sister stopped being that close to me for a good portion of that summer because my parents were afraid I would influence her beliefs, my dad was so angry, I literally thought he was
gonna kill me (I wish he did though, it would've been much better than enduring this endless pain) .I tried to debate them but it was beyond pointless; my dad kept saying that we don't know all the
answers to this world's mysteries and we have to accept that. Here's the thing that I noticed about
muslims, they so fucking afraid, it's literally rotting their brains out. When my parents found out
about me leaving islam, dad got covid19, and let me tell you, fear was so apparent in his eyes, he
was afraid of death, one night he told me, "pls revert to islam, you see how death is taking everyone nowadays".
Anyways, after I brought up some contradicting, absurd and illogical verses/hadiths/fatwas in islam,
they said they can't answer my questions and only a specialist can, so they brought an imam (islamic preacher), I'm not
gonna lie to you, he was a good person, kinda judgmental though (he didn't really need to declare it
but I saw it in his eyes), he asked me when was the last time I prayed, I said 2019, he "ALLAH AKBAR" (I left islam in 2020, but throughout my entire lifetime as a muslim, I wasn't the most devoted one tbh, I think I might have adhd which prevented me from doing something as repetitive and boring as praying). He kept reusing the same arguments made by muslims online, "just look around you, allah
is wonderful, even Einstein said this world couldn't create itself, and there must be a creator(lie). Since we are taught as women to never truly speak our mind, I kept most of my thoughts to myself and just pretended that I agreed with him because debating him was pointless (he truly didn't listen to what I had to say because he went into the debate thinking he's 100000% right and I'm the one
who's lost track of everything). I "reverted" back simply because he kept guilt-tripping me into
thinking that everyone is so worried about me, and that I'm doing something bad (he said that my brothers can't sleep at night because of the possibility that their sister might burn in hell). I lost
practically all my friends, and some of them just tolerated my existence for a while, I had to put up
with the fact that some muslims hid their belonging in fear that I might steal them because us
atheists have no moral compass, "what stops you from lying? Cheating? stealing? Raping? Killing?" I got constantly asked and my answer was never enough. I got slut-shamed, gaslighted, told I was crazy, told I had been brainwashed by the west, out-casted, demonized, told I was worse than rapists and pedophiles, told I was trans, a satanist, a lesbian, or whatever label they choose to give you that doesn't fit you. They told me the reason behind my depression was because I am faithless,
they invalidated my suicidal thoughts after I finally spoke up about how I truly feel about my life. The following months were a waking nightmare for me because I had to pretend I was a muslim for the sake of my parents' happiness, which made me feel like a double faced lying bitch, I felt so guilty
every waking minute of every day for months (still do), I deactivated some of my social media
accounts because debating muslims online was emotionally draining, and besides it just made me feel like shit because muslims are professional gaslighters (islam is perfect, culture is not). I chose a
college major that I'm not quite passionate about(or in another word, I dont see it as a future career path) because it made my parents happier, but no
matter what I've done, it wasn't enough, I was still a bad person, a bad daughter, and a bad friend, a
bad sister and overall, a bad human being. I was the black sheep of the family (and let me tell you, my family is far from good) because I rejected an ideology that dehumanized the fuck outta my
gender. 2020 and 2021 were beyond awful and I can't even describe the loneliness, despair, disgust, fear, shame and guilt I felt for months, I would stay in bed for literally days and weeks without eating because I felt like I don't deserve to eat, I googled every suicide method on this planet but I just couldn't find a painless way to go, and the aftermath was too intense for me to handle, and just the thought that my family had to deal with it, made me endure the pain for their sake (even after you
commit suicide, society wouldn't give you peace, they would make bullshit assumptions, let alone
the fucking guilt my parents would feel because they would be certain that their daughter is getting
tormented in hell for some odd reason. Ik that my mom would spend the remainder of her life
praying so that her merciful god would forgive her daughter for killing herself). You know what's
worse? It's the fact that you can't even talk about these kinds of things in Algeria because suicide is a taboo, "pray them suicidal thoughts away, ey!" "go back to god 'cause no woman of god thinks about killing herself" "god is punishing you for rejecting him" "oh you think about killing yourself? this can't be me! I have never thought about killing myself and I can't imagine I would in a million years" (that's what I was told one time by a family relative) and the list goes on of the insensitive shit muslims spit on a daily basis about topics they know nothing about. My first year in university wasn't the best because I was exhausted for most of it, I felt like I didn't fit in, since all of my graduating class was passionate about that major, but I wasn't. I attended 0 lectures, paid multiple doctors to make me a certificate just so that I wouldn't have to attend those mandatory college courses, I went to all the exams without even knowing shit about the given material we were studying, some of my
classmates said "she's lying about no studying because no med student is apathetic towards their studies", but the truth is
I truly didn't give a shit about school at that point, I simply wanted to die in my sleep just so that I don't have to put up with the circus that is my life. I lost hope, and once you lose hope, you have no will to do anything. I don't care about school anymore because I know I won't stay here for too long
(not to sound emo or anything). Got 6.61/20 as a general grade in the first semester and just the
thought of compensating that in the second semester made me helpless.
"What sI she doing in herthe dorm room if sheis not studying'' that's what I heard some bitch say about me (fuck them people who know nothing but love to jump to conclusions). the truth is that I wanted to be left alone, I loved staying in bed for a week without anyone checking in on me every hour and I loved the fact that I can just cry without having to explain myself, I loved the fact that I can starve in peace without anyone forcing me to eat, I loved the fact that I can go days without water because these things made me somehow feel like I'm in control of my life. Yk when things go bad in life, my brain would immediately tell me to go VSED mode, hoping that I could die.
The thing is, I'm not a nihilist, nor do I think life is pointless or depressing. Life is wonderful, it's an experience, YOUR EXPERIENCE, it's a whole journey of discovering yourself and your surroundings,
discovering your passions, likes, dislikes, favourite items, food, movies, you name it. A journey where you create memories, fall in love, sympathize with others, help those around you who are vulnerable, be vulnerable, accept diversity, create things and share your story with the world. Life is about being kind, loving, sharing, laughing, crying and embracing every thing that makes up humanity. LIFE IS SO WONDERFUL outside of this shithole. Life is so magical outside of this garbage bin. The depressing truth is that in every Islamic country, life centres around death and life after death and this life is nothing more than a pointless exam made by a narcissistic sky daddy who's constantly seeking people's validations and attention.


In order to cope with my unsatisfying life, I developed the unhealthiest coping mechanisms;
escapism (can't remember the last time I lived my life without blocking out unpleasant emotions and spending countless hours in an alternate reality that offered some dopamine), countless starve—
binge-eating cycles, self-harm, over-sleeping, cutting everyone out occasionally…etc
As a woman, you can't live in a country like Algeria, it's beyond awful, it's dehumanizing for us
women. We have to put up through it all. We can't wear mini skirts or shorts (even if it's 90 degrees out there) because muslim men can't control themselves
and you're practically asking to be sexually assaulted, you can't walk alone without getting bothered
by every freak in the nation (who's enabled by society and most importantly religion because you're a walking temptation) , you can't make your own choices, everyone seems to know about your body/life/brain more than you do. you can't lick icecream in public for god's sake, you can't laugh
out loud because you'll get judged, you can't wear a v-neck shirt because everyone will stare at your boobs. you can't buy your own apartment, you can't even sleep with your boyfriend because this
nation has some disturbing thoughts surrounding sex, you can't kiss your boyfriend in public because kissing and pda is indecent in this emotionally disturbed country (but hitting your kid is okay), you can't exist without getting sexualized, can you? Your entire value as a human being is reduced to your ability to give birth, stay pure (wtf is that? fuck the concept of virginity and purity culture that demonizes sex and intimate relationships), cook, clean, serve your hubby. IT'S EXHAUSTING and I'm
TIRED. And above all of this shit that we have to go through, we're the villains! We get villainized, we
are bad girls who can't seem to know their place, we get raped and told we asked for it, we get told
to shut up, we get told to dress appropriately, we get told to just obey and be submissive because
those are god's orders, and who are you to question them. They say he created women for men but
not the other way around. FUCK THIS SHIT IAM OUT
I wish I can get out of Algeria right now instead of wasting my beautiful youth in this hellhole. Once I do, I have to put my shattered pieces back together using therapy, medications and a radical
lifestyle change . Algeria isn't a place that gives you mental stability because mental health is a joke in here

 

[Exiled spirit]

I definitely can relate.

I'm ex-muslim living in Egypt, but no one knows that I left Islam.

Fuck society and its unfair rules and hilarious traditions.

You have suffered a lot. I hope you find some peace in this shitty world.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I'm an atheist too. Grew up in USA. I think all religions are fictional tales.

I think humans are just animals. After death is non-existence forever. I'm just a male ape a monkey




Even a bird's skeleton is almost identical to a human skeleton. And birds Separated from human ancestors 300 million years ago. The eukaryotic cell evolved 2 billion years ago and the cells in all animals are identical

 

[Tobacco]

I hope you can find the freedom you want.

 

[Heartaches]

I'm sorry for all that you've gone through, I can't imagine how tough it has been, I don't know what I would've done in your shoes. I hope you can eventually get out of Algeria and properly enjoy your youth, find your home and never look back. You didn't deserve all the shit you've got just for being atheist. It's hypocritical of religious folks to ask us to respect their beliefs while constantly shaming us for ours (or our lack of) and shoving their own; a lot of times those beliefs go against the individual volition and human rights.

Some of what you said reminded me of a muslim friend I had, but not to the same degree. I don't feel he ever really respected my atheism, he would constantly say that I should believe in an afterlife to cope with the idea of death, try to shove up his beliefs and expected me to learn from him even though I wasn't interested in the teachings of Islam or any other religions.

But I don't want to derail the point. I hope one day you can speak your beliefs without fear of harassment or mistreatment. I truly hope you can lead a better life soon enough, whether by leaving or conditions improving in your country. I'll never understand those who paint atheism as some sort of "evil degenerate belief". Wish you luck​

 

[randy]

I'm sorry for your plight.

If you could escape your country, where would you like to go? What would you like to do with your life?

 

[NumbItAll]

It is terrible that you can be punished for being correct and not delusional. This species truly is terrible. I think you are quite courageous for standing up against that kind of nonsense and oppression. I hope you can find a way out someday.

 

[ksp]

wow - i really admire your views, struggles, and suffering !
in a lot of countries religions are slowly dying, but you are so strong, especially in this situation

i think religion should be replaced by personal moral compass, and simple logic
and this is happening now, but it's still very slow…

 

[CringeNihilism]

Atheist living in Egypt here. I can relate a lot I feel so dehumanized in this country It's hell .

 

[Stylite]

I am Agnostic in a Middle-Eastern country and I sympathize with what you've said. It really sucks. When I tried questioning faith with just questions, not even proclaiming I am no longer a believer, my mother began to act utterly hysterical, like a raging animal. It disgusted me, so I just pretended to believe.

It's rather odd that they're so faithful, but I can't even think of say, Christianity, even though they proclaim them to be "People of the Book".

I hope you find the strength to survive the terrible conditions you have now, and that if you do pass away, you go to Heaven just to spite them that what they preach was wrong in the end.

 

[Ernest1964]

I definitely can relate.

I'm ex-muslim living in Egypt, but no one knows that I left Islam.

Fuck society and its unfair rules and hilarious traditions.

You have suffered a lot. I hope you find some peace in this shitty world.

I used to be a teacher at a private school in Cairo, I lived in Maadi. I had one of my students "come out"to me as being Atheist, he said, "teacher Ernest, I'm telling you this because I know that I can trust you.". I cautioned him to not say anything to his family until AFTER he was no longer financially dependent on them and to be very careful which of his friends he told as well. He said that it would be easier to "come out" as being gay than to "come out" as being Atheist in Egypt. I believe that he was correct.

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

I think humans are just animals. After death is non-existence forever. I'm just a male ape a monkey

Well you dont have to think any of that because these are just biological facts . we are apes yes, we are just animals with higher order intelligence and death is non existence forever.

 

[Sunset Limited]

I can feel you. I was born and raised in a predominantly Muslim country. They oppose personalizing life. In such a country, you feel like you are in a matrix where you live with Agent Smith's clones. They are extremely aggressive and obsessed with power.

Heavenly religions are sick. Imagine a god who makes people fight each other for his sake. He watches them kill each other, kills them and watches their misery. Still not enough. He plans fantastic tortures in an endless hell. Religion should be a teaching that beautifies the human soul, repairs it, and encourages it to become a better person. A god intelligent enough to create the universe and us cannot be that sadistic, while even we do science to kill the worst offender in the most painless way possible. The books of the monotheistic religions are like copies of the previous one. Its true origins go back to the Sumerian myths. All these blood, brutality, sadistic rhetoric already show that these books are fabrications. A god who judges his own creation judges himself. Such a stupid god profile is an insult to the concept of god.

 

[VioletNight]

I'm so sorry you're going through this. It truly sucks that we don't get a choice in the circumstances of our birth, I really hope you can one day find your way to a place that's safer for you and you can just be yourself.

 

[Nights]

From 12 july 2020 to this day:
If I could get one wish in this world, I wouldn't truly wish for wealth, beauty, intelligence…etc, I
would simply wish for religions to disappear out of this planet for good, it's literally making a lot of
us miserable (my heart goes to afghani women). and I know it's kind of hypocritical of me to
consistently look/ask for my freedom while simultaneously wanting to take people's beliefs away from them but I'm genuinely tired.
A while back, my family found out about my apostasy, and let me tell you it wasn't pleasant at all; I
literally had to put up with hearing my mom cry for three consecutive days and ignore my existence
for a week, my sister stopped being that close to me for a good portion of that summer because my parents were afraid I would influence her beliefs, my dad was so angry, I literally thought he was
gonna kill me (I wish he did though, it would've been much better than enduring this endless pain) .I tried to debate them but it was beyond pointless; my dad kept saying that we don't know all the
answers to this world's mysteries and we have to accept that. Here's the thing that I noticed about
muslims, they so fucking afraid, it's literally rotting their brains out. When my parents found out
about me leaving islam, dad got covid19, and let me tell you, fear was so apparent in his eyes, he
was afraid of death, one night he told me, "pls revert to islam, you see how death is taking everyone nowadays".
Anyways, after I brought up some contradicting, absurd and illogical verses/hadiths/fatwas in islam,
they said they can't answer my questions and only a specialist can, so they brought an imam (islamic preacher), I'm not
gonna lie to you, he was a good person, kinda judgmental though (he didn't really need to declare it
but I saw it in his eyes), he asked me when was the last time I prayed, I said 2019, he "ALLAH AKBAR" (I left islam in 2020, but throughout my entire lifetime as a muslim, I wasn't the most devoted one tbh, I think I might have adhd which prevented me from doing something as repetitive and boring as praying). He kept reusing the same arguments made by muslims online, "just look around you, allah
is wonderful, even Einstein said this world couldn't create itself, and there must be a creator(lie). Since we are taught as women to never truly speak our mind, I kept most of my thoughts to myself and just pretended that I agreed with him because debating him was pointless (he truly didn't listen to what I had to say because he went into the debate thinking he's 100000% right and I'm the one
who's lost track of everything). I "reverted" back simply because he kept guilt-tripping me into
thinking that everyone is so worried about me, and that I'm doing something bad (he said that my brothers can't sleep at night because of the possibility that their sister might burn in hell). I lost
practically all my friends, and some of them just tolerated my existence for a while, I had to put up
with the fact that some muslims hid their belonging in fear that I might steal them because us
atheists have no moral compass, "what stops you from lying? Cheating? stealing? Raping? Killing?" I got constantly asked and my answer was never enough. I got slut-shamed, gaslighted, told I was crazy, told I had been brainwashed by the west, out-casted, demonized, told I was worse than rapists and pedophiles, told I was trans, a satanist, a lesbian, or whatever label they choose to give you that doesn't fit you. They told me the reason behind my depression was because I am faithless,
they invalidated my suicidal thoughts after I finally spoke up about how I truly feel about my life. The following months were a waking nightmare for me because I had to pretend I was a muslim for the sake of my parents' happiness, which made me feel like a double faced lying bitch, I felt so guilty
every waking minute of every day for months (still do), I deactivated some of my social media
accounts because debating muslims online was emotionally draining, and besides it just made me feel like shit because muslims are professional gaslighters (islam is perfect, culture is not). I chose a
college major that I'm not quite passionate about(or in another word, I dont see it as a future career path) because it made my parents happier, but no
matter what I've done, it wasn't enough, I was still a bad person, a bad daughter, and a bad friend, a
bad sister and overall, a bad human being. I was the black sheep of the family (and let me tell you, my family is far from good) because I rejected an ideology that dehumanized the fuck outta my
gender. 2020 and 2021 were beyond awful and I can't even describe the loneliness, despair, disgust, fear, shame and guilt I felt for months, I would stay in bed for literally days and weeks without eating because I felt like I don't deserve to eat, I googled every suicide method on this planet but I just couldn't find a painless way to go, and the aftermath was too intense for me to handle, and just the thought that my family had to deal with it, made me endure the pain for their sake (even after you
commit suicide, society wouldn't give you peace, they would make bullshit assumptions, let alone
the fucking guilt my parents would feel because they would be certain that their daughter is getting
tormented in hell for some odd reason. Ik that my mom would spend the remainder of her life
praying so that her merciful god would forgive her daughter for killing herself). You know what's
worse? It's the fact that you can't even talk about these kinds of things in Algeria because suicide is a taboo, "pray them suicidal thoughts away, ey!" "go back to god 'cause no woman of god thinks about killing herself" "god is punishing you for rejecting him" "oh you think about killing yourself? this can't be me! I have never thought about killing myself and I can't imagine I would in a million years" (that's what I was told one time by a family relative) and the list goes on of the insensitive shit muslims spit on a daily basis about topics they know nothing about. My first year in university wasn't the best because I was exhausted for most of it, I felt like I didn't fit in, since all of my graduating class was passionate about that major, but I wasn't. I attended 0 lectures, paid multiple doctors to make me a certificate just so that I wouldn't have to attend those mandatory college courses, I went to all the exams without even knowing shit about the given material we were studying, some of my
classmates said "she's lying about no studying because no med student is apathetic towards their studies", but the truth is
I truly didn't give a shit about school at that point, I simply wanted to die in my sleep just so that I don't have to put up with the circus that is my life. I lost hope, and once you lose hope, you have no will to do anything. I don't care about school anymore because I know I won't stay here for too long
(not to sound emo or anything). Got 6.61/20 as a general grade in the first semester and just the
thought of compensating that in the second semester made me helpless.
"What sI she doing in herthe dorm room if sheis not studying'' that's what I heard some bitch say about me (fuck them people who know nothing but love to jump to conclusions). the truth is that I wanted to be left alone, I loved staying in bed for a week without anyone checking in on me every hour and I loved the fact that I can just cry without having to explain myself, I loved the fact that I can starve in peace without anyone forcing me to eat, I loved the fact that I can go days without water because these things made me somehow feel like I'm in control of my life. Yk when things go bad in life, my brain would immediately tell me to go VSED mode, hoping that I could die.
The thing is, I'm not a nihilist, nor do I think life is pointless or depressing. Life is wonderful, it's an experience, YOUR EXPERIENCE, it's a whole journey of discovering yourself and your surroundings,
discovering your passions, likes, dislikes, favourite items, food, movies, you name it. A journey where you create memories, fall in love, sympathize with others, help those around you who are vulnerable, be vulnerable, accept diversity, create things and share your story with the world. Life is about being kind, loving, sharing, laughing, crying and embracing every thing that makes up humanity. LIFE IS SO WONDERFUL outside of this shithole. Life is so magical outside of this garbage bin. The depressing truth is that in every Islamic country, life centres around death and life after death and this life is nothing more than a pointless exam made by a narcissistic sky daddy who's constantly seeking people's validations and attention.


In order to cope with my unsatisfying life, I developed the unhealthiest coping mechanisms;
escapism (can't remember the last time I lived my life without blocking out unpleasant emotions and spending countless hours in an alternate reality that offered some dopamine), countless starve—
binge-eating cycles, self-harm, over-sleeping, cutting everyone out occasionally…etc
As a woman, you can't live in a country like Algeria, it's beyond awful, it's dehumanizing for us
women. We have to put up through it all. We can't wear mini skirts or shorts (even if it's 90 degrees out there) because muslim men can't control themselves
and you're practically asking to be sexually assaulted, you can't walk alone without getting bothered
by every freak in the nation (who's enabled by society and most importantly religion because you're a walking temptation) , you can't make your own choices, everyone seems to know about your body/life/brain more than you do. you can't lick icecream in public for god's sake, you can't laugh
out loud because you'll get judged, you can't wear a v-neck shirt because everyone will stare at your boobs. you can't buy your own apartment, you can't even sleep with your boyfriend because this
nation has some disturbing thoughts surrounding sex, you can't kiss your boyfriend in public because kissing and pda is indecent in this emotionally disturbed country (but hitting your kid is okay), you can't exist without getting sexualized, can you? Your entire value as a human being is reduced to your ability to give birth, stay pure (wtf is that? fuck the concept of virginity and purity culture that demonizes sex and intimate relationships), cook, clean, serve your hubby. IT'S EXHAUSTING and I'm
TIRED. And above all of this shit that we have to go through, we're the villains! We get villainized, we
are bad girls who can't seem to know their place, we get raped and told we asked for it, we get told
to shut up, we get told to dress appropriately, we get told to just obey and be submissive because
those are god's orders, and who are you to question them. They say he created women for men but
not the other way around. FUCK THIS SHIT IAM OUT
I wish I can get out of Algeria right now instead of wasting my beautiful youth in this hellhole. Once I do, I have to put my shattered pieces back together using therapy, medications and a radical
lifestyle change . Algeria isn't a place that gives you mental stability because mental health is a joke in here

I can relate, i'm also i'm an atheist living in algeria, but i am hiding because i dont want to be beheaded, you dont deserve this, if youre cable of escap
I'm also an atheist living in algeria, but i thought there is no atheists in algeria, i can relate, when i was 13 year old i become an atheist, and then the same things that happened to you started happening to me, some people started talking bullshit about me thinking i was possessed by jinn and this bullshit, my family avoids talking with me, and my father asked me why i left islam once time and i told him why, he screamed at me and kicked me of his room because i called allah corrupt, and my mother forced me to go to many retarded rakis, the rakis thinks i have sihr and this bullshit, i also debated 1 imam, that imam was very rude, told me if i dont believe in islam why dont i remove my clothes and go walk outside, told me islam is the best religion, told me all other prophets were sent to a special nation but mohhamed was sent for everyone and hes the best of the prophets, and also he whispered to me "other religions tells you to have sex with your mom and islam doesnt, will you be okay with raping your own mom" and i couldn't reply, and then he opened the door (we was in a private room) and he told people who was waiting their turn to do the hijama that "this kid thinks there is no god, and there is no religion, and mohhamed is a liar" in mockery, then i told him to close the door, then some man entered because it was his turn to do the hijama and i was forced to do the hijama so i had to do it, the imam was focusing with that man, then he was getting cups and tools to do the hijama, meanwhile the man who was with me in the room which was going to do the hijama asked me "do you believe in allah" i said no then he asked me "do you believe in mohhamed" i said no, then he said "how did you come to existence" in discomfort i replied to him "i came from my mother" then he said in all retardness "so whorship your mom?" i said no, then the imam came, and then he asked me "do you believe in jesus?" (he probably thought i was christian or something) i said no, then he asked me if i believe in moses and abraham, i said no, then he laughed, and then he got a call and after few moments the call ended, so he started doing the hijama to both of me and the guy, and while that he told me to recite some surahs, i told him i didnt memorize all of the surahs he asked me to recite, then the rude man told me "why you didnt memorize it" in all rudeness, and i didnt reply, i also was sure that rude man didnt memorize that surah as well but i didnt said anything because that man seems a bit barbaric and violent, meanwhile while the imam was doing the hijama to me, i asked, is it true that in islam you cut off the hands of people who steal and also kill apostates, the rude man said in a barbaric and disrespectful way "yes we cut off the hands of people who steal, and we also kill apostates and kids like you" i felt discomfort from that, after the hijama was done my mom blammed me for saying what i said to the imam and said to the imam she was very sorry and disgraced for my "rudeness"... i can relate a lot to what's happening with you, but frankly i'm very surprised to see that there is non-muslims living in algeria, thats something very rare, you should try moving to another place and live alone in your home if your cable of that, your family's toxicity will keep draining your mental health, i know how algerian parents thinks, i hope you are doing well

 

[OceanBlue]

LIFE IS SO WONDERFUL outside of this shithole. Life is so magical outside of this garbage bin.

Some countries are better than others, but the idea that life is wonderful is an even more persistent delusion than religions.

I hope life is kind to you, good luck with your escape plan.

----------------------
@Nights Sorry you have to go through this insanity, desperate lunatics.

 

[getfree05]

You literally explained our whole society in this post They're delusion and sick they don't care or even think for a sec they're indoctrinated and miserable so they tried blaming their shitty life on 'God's plan' and men abused religion because they can't control their sexual desires
The hypocrisy that Muslim men have is just disgusting they think with their dicks ALL the time , my Muslim therapist called me a 'hopeless case' my own THERAPIST bc I told her that I don't believe in Islam and that my life sucks because am unfaithful and bc I wanted to take off my hijab (aka a pathetic piece of cloth that defines me) and that my life will never get better because of my beliefs

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Religion is manmade and consists only of indoctrinated believes to control the masses and society.

 

[Dmoore3232]

I am Agnostic in a Middle-Eastern country and I sympathize with what you've said. It really sucks. When I tried questioning faith with just questions, not even proclaiming I am no longer a believer, my mother began to act utterly hysterical, like a raging animal. It disgusted me, so I just pretended to believe.

It's rather odd that they're so faithful, but I can't even think of say, Christianity, even though they proclaim them to be "People of the Book".

I hope you find the strength to survive the terrible conditions you have now, and that if you do pass away, you go to Heaven just to spite them that what they preach was wrong in the end.

It is a cult. Though I do think a Heaven exists. I think Islam really hindered the progress of the Middle East.

 

[alonely]

hugs from an athiest from the western world. i see your struggles and your pain, you are strong. i hope that there may be others in your country that see and hear parts of your story, that it makes them think, or makes them be more open, or that some may relate to you, even though these people may not have spoken up or have played the role of how they "should" react. i hope that every person suffering with this is contributing to a more accepting society overall, even if that change may feel incredibly slow. i hope you find the peace you are looking for.

 

[Utter_emptiness]

You literally explained our whole society in this post They're delusion and sick they don't care or even think for a sec they're indoctrinated and miserable so they tried blaming their shitty life on 'God's plan' and men abused religion because they can't control their sexual desires
The hypocrisy that Muslim men have is just disgusting they think with their dicks ALL the time , my Muslim therapist called me a 'hopeless case' my own THERAPIST bc I told her that I don't believe in Islam and that my life sucks because am unfaithful and bc I wanted to take off my hijab (aka a pathetic piece of cloth that defines me) and that my life will never get better because of my beliefs

I am so sorry about that, i really wish for us to leave our shitty countries soon and be able to experience the amount of freedom that we deserve. Stay strong and remember that you are never alone. Sending love from a fellow ex muslim <3

 

[readytostopmypain]

From 12 july 2020 to this day:
If I could get one wish in this world, I wouldn't truly wish for wealth, beauty, intelligence…etc, I
would simply wish for religions to disappear out of this planet for good, it's literally making a lot of
us miserable (my heart goes to afghani women). and I know it's kind of hypocritical of me to
consistently look/ask for my freedom while simultaneously wanting to take people's beliefs away from them but I'm genuinely tired.
A while back, my family found out about my apostasy, and let me tell you it wasn't pleasant at all; I
literally had to put up with hearing my mom cry for three consecutive days and ignore my existence
for a week, my sister stopped being that close to me for a good portion of that summer because my parents were afraid I would influence her beliefs, my dad was so angry, I literally thought he was
gonna kill me (I wish he did though, it would've been much better than enduring this endless pain) .I tried to debate them but it was beyond pointless; my dad kept saying that we don't know all the
answers to this world's mysteries and we have to accept that. Here's the thing that I noticed about
muslims, they so fucking afraid, it's literally rotting their brains out. When my parents found out
about me leaving islam, dad got covid19, and let me tell you, fear was so apparent in his eyes, he
was afraid of death, one night he told me, "pls revert to islam, you see how death is taking everyone nowadays".
Anyways, after I brought up some contradicting, absurd and illogical verses/hadiths/fatwas in islam,
they said they can't answer my questions and only a specialist can, so they brought an imam (islamic preacher), I'm not
gonna lie to you, he was a good person, kinda judgmental though (he didn't really need to declare it
but I saw it in his eyes), he asked me when was the last time I prayed, I said 2019, he "ALLAH AKBAR" (I left islam in 2020, but throughout my entire lifetime as a muslim, I wasn't the most devoted one tbh, I think I might have adhd which prevented me from doing something as repetitive and boring as praying). He kept reusing the same arguments made by muslims online, "just look around you, allah
is wonderful, even Einstein said this world couldn't create itself, and there must be a creator(lie). Since we are taught as women to never truly speak our mind, I kept most of my thoughts to myself and just pretended that I agreed with him because debating him was pointless (he truly didn't listen to what I had to say because he went into the debate thinking he's 100000% right and I'm the one
who's lost track of everything). I "reverted" back simply because he kept guilt-tripping me into
thinking that everyone is so worried about me, and that I'm doing something bad (he said that my brothers can't sleep at night because of the possibility that their sister might burn in hell). I lost
practically all my friends, and some of them just tolerated my existence for a while, I had to put up
with the fact that some muslims hid their belonging in fear that I might steal them because us
atheists have no moral compass, "what stops you from lying? Cheating? stealing? Raping? Killing?" I got constantly asked and my answer was never enough. I got slut-shamed, gaslighted, told I was crazy, told I had been brainwashed by the west, out-casted, demonized, told I was worse than rapists and pedophiles, told I was trans, a satanist, a lesbian, or whatever label they choose to give you that doesn't fit you. They told me the reason behind my depression was because I am faithless,
they invalidated my suicidal thoughts after I finally spoke up about how I truly feel about my life. The following months were a waking nightmare for me because I had to pretend I was a muslim for the sake of my parents' happiness, which made me feel like a double faced lying bitch, I felt so guilty
every waking minute of every day for months (still do), I deactivated some of my social media
accounts because debating muslims online was emotionally draining, and besides it just made me feel like shit because muslims are professional gaslighters (islam is perfect, culture is not). I chose a
college major that I'm not quite passionate about(or in another word, I dont see it as a future career path) because it made my parents happier, but no
matter what I've done, it wasn't enough, I was still a bad person, a bad daughter, and a bad friend, a
bad sister and overall, a bad human being. I was the black sheep of the family (and let me tell you, my family is far from good) because I rejected an ideology that dehumanized the fuck outta my
gender. 2020 and 2021 were beyond awful and I can't even describe the loneliness, despair, disgust, fear, shame and guilt I felt for months, I would stay in bed for literally days and weeks without eating because I felt like I don't deserve to eat, I googled every suicide method on this planet but I just couldn't find a painless way to go, and the aftermath was too intense for me to handle, and just the thought that my family had to deal with it, made me endure the pain for their sake (even after you
commit suicide, society wouldn't give you peace, they would make bullshit assumptions, let alone
the fucking guilt my parents would feel because they would be certain that their daughter is getting
tormented in hell for some odd reason. Ik that my mom would spend the remainder of her life
praying so that her merciful god would forgive her daughter for killing herself). You know what's
worse? It's the fact that you can't even talk about these kinds of things in Algeria because suicide is a taboo, "pray them suicidal thoughts away, ey!" "go back to god 'cause no woman of god thinks about killing herself" "god is punishing you for rejecting him" "oh you think about killing yourself? this can't be me! I have never thought about killing myself and I can't imagine I would in a million years" (that's what I was told one time by a family relative) and the list goes on of the insensitive shit muslims spit on a daily basis about topics they know nothing about. My first year in university wasn't the best because I was exhausted for most of it, I felt like I didn't fit in, since all of my graduating class was passionate about that major, but I wasn't. I attended 0 lectures, paid multiple doctors to make me a certificate just so that I wouldn't have to attend those mandatory college courses, I went to all the exams without even knowing shit about the given material we were studying, some of my
classmates said "she's lying about no studying because no med student is apathetic towards their studies", but the truth is
I truly didn't give a shit about school at that point, I simply wanted to die in my sleep just so that I don't have to put up with the circus that is my life. I lost hope, and once you lose hope, you have no will to do anything. I don't care about school anymore because I know I won't stay here for too long
(not to sound emo or anything). Got 6.61/20 as a general grade in the first semester and just the
thought of compensating that in the second semester made me helpless.
"What sI she doing in herthe dorm room if sheis not studying'' that's what I heard some bitch say about me (fuck them people who know nothing but love to jump to conclusions). the truth is that I wanted to be left alone, I loved staying in bed for a week without anyone checking in on me every hour and I loved the fact that I can just cry without having to explain myself, I loved the fact that I can starve in peace without anyone forcing me to eat, I loved the fact that I can go days without water because these things made me somehow feel like I'm in control of my life. Yk when things go bad in life, my brain would immediately tell me to go VSED mode, hoping that I could die.
The thing is, I'm not a nihilist, nor do I think life is pointless or depressing. Life is wonderful, it's an experience, YOUR EXPERIENCE, it's a whole journey of discovering yourself and your surroundings,
discovering your passions, likes, dislikes, favourite items, food, movies, you name it. A journey where you create memories, fall in love, sympathize with others, help those around you who are vulnerable, be vulnerable, accept diversity, create things and share your story with the world. Life is about being kind, loving, sharing, laughing, crying and embracing every thing that makes up humanity. LIFE IS SO WONDERFUL outside of this shithole. Life is so magical outside of this garbage bin. The depressing truth is that in every Islamic country, life centres around death and life after death and this life is nothing more than a pointless exam made by a narcissistic sky daddy who's constantly seeking people's validations and attention.


In order to cope with my unsatisfying life, I developed the unhealthiest coping mechanisms;
escapism (can't remember the last time I lived my life without blocking out unpleasant emotions and spending countless hours in an alternate reality that offered some dopamine), countless starve—
binge-eating cycles, self-harm, over-sleeping, cutting everyone out occasionally…etc
As a woman, you can't live in a country like Algeria, it's beyond awful, it's dehumanizing for us
women. We have to put up through it all. We can't wear mini skirts or shorts (even if it's 90 degrees out there) because muslim men can't control themselves
and you're practically asking to be sexually assaulted, you can't walk alone without getting bothered
by every freak in the nation (who's enabled by society and most importantly religion because you're a walking temptation) , you can't make your own choices, everyone seems to know about your body/life/brain more than you do. you can't lick icecream in public for god's sake, you can't laugh
out loud because you'll get judged, you can't wear a v-neck shirt because everyone will stare at your boobs. you can't buy your own apartment, you can't even sleep with your boyfriend because this
nation has some disturbing thoughts surrounding sex, you can't kiss your boyfriend in public because kissing and pda is indecent in this emotionally disturbed country (but hitting your kid is okay), you can't exist without getting sexualized, can you? Your entire value as a human being is reduced to your ability to give birth, stay pure (wtf is that? fuck the concept of virginity and purity culture that demonizes sex and intimate relationships), cook, clean, serve your hubby. IT'S EXHAUSTING and I'm
TIRED. And above all of this shit that we have to go through, we're the villains! We get villainized, we
are bad girls who can't seem to know their place, we get raped and told we asked for it, we get told
to shut up, we get told to dress appropriately, we get told to just obey and be submissive because
those are god's orders, and who are you to question them. They say he created women for men but
not the other way around. FUCK THIS SHIT IAM OUT
I wish I can get out of Algeria right now instead of wasting my beautiful youth in this hellhole. Once I do, I have to put my shattered pieces back together using therapy, medications and a radical
lifestyle change . Algeria isn't a place that gives you mental stability because mental health is a joke in here

Do you really think will read this newspaper??? Honey we're here to help not to read nonsense

 

[Aergia]

Fellow ex-muslim here— I'm fortunate enough to live in a secular state but my parents are extremely conservative so I'm constantly pretending for them— wearing the hijab, praying, etc. I can't even wear jeans or scented moisturiser without my dad pitching a fit. I dread to think what they'd do if they knew about my atheism.

let alone
the fucking guilt my parents would feel because they would be certain that their daughter is getting
tormented in hell for some odd reason

I relate really, really hard to this. The concept of an eternal hell is incredibly sadistic. It's exactly the kind of idea a cult leader would employ as a mechanism for control.

And you're absolutely right— women are treated horribly in Islam. It's very clearly a religion made by men, for men. Victim-blaming and rape culture are disgusting things in themselves— it's even worse when Muslim men assert that these ideas are divinely sanctioned.

I'm sorry you had to go through so much. You're incredibly brave and I really do hope you'll be able to emigrate out of Algeria one day. You deserve freedom, and autonomy, and I hope you'll get that.

 

[DeadPool360]

From 12 july 2020 to this day:
If I could get one wish in this world, I wouldn't truly wish for wealth, beauty, intelligence…etc, I
would simply wish for religions to disappear out of this planet for good, it's literally making a lot of
us miserable (my heart goes to afghani women). and I know it's kind of hypocritical of me to
consistently look/ask for my freedom while simultaneously wanting to take people's beliefs away from them but I'm genuinely tired.
A while back, my family found out about my apostasy, and let me tell you it wasn't pleasant at all; I
literally had to put up with hearing my mom cry for three consecutive days and ignore my existence
for a week, my sister stopped being that close to me for a good portion of that summer because my parents were afraid I would influence her beliefs, my dad was so angry, I literally thought he was
gonna kill me (I wish he did though, it would've been much better than enduring this endless pain) .I tried to debate them but it was beyond pointless; my dad kept saying that we don't know all the
answers to this world's mysteries and we have to accept that. Here's the thing that I noticed about
muslims, they so fucking afraid, it's literally rotting their brains out. When my parents found out
about me leaving islam, dad got covid19, and let me tell you, fear was so apparent in his eyes, he
was afraid of death, one night he told me, "pls revert to islam, you see how death is taking everyone nowadays".
Anyways, after I brought up some contradicting, absurd and illogical verses/hadiths/fatwas in islam,
they said they can't answer my questions and only a specialist can, so they brought an imam (islamic preacher), I'm not
gonna lie to you, he was a good person, kinda judgmental though (he didn't really need to declare it
but I saw it in his eyes), he asked me when was the last time I prayed, I said 2019, he "ALLAH AKBAR" (I left islam in 2020, but throughout my entire lifetime as a muslim, I wasn't the most devoted one tbh, I think I might have adhd which prevented me from doing something as repetitive and boring as praying). He kept reusing the same arguments made by muslims online, "just look around you, allah
is wonderful, even Einstein said this world couldn't create itself, and there must be a creator(lie). Since we are taught as women to never truly speak our mind, I kept most of my thoughts to myself and just pretended that I agreed with him because debating him was pointless (he truly didn't listen to what I had to say because he went into the debate thinking he's 100000% right and I'm the one
who's lost track of everything). I "reverted" back simply because he kept guilt-tripping me into
thinking that everyone is so worried about me, and that I'm doing something bad (he said that my brothers can't sleep at night because of the possibility that their sister might burn in hell). I lost
practically all my friends, and some of them just tolerated my existence for a while, I had to put up
with the fact that some muslims hid their belonging in fear that I might steal them because us
atheists have no moral compass, "what stops you from lying? Cheating? stealing? Raping? Killing?" I got constantly asked and my answer was never enough. I got slut-shamed, gaslighted, told I was crazy, told I had been brainwashed by the west, out-casted, demonized, told I was worse than rapists and pedophiles, told I was trans, a satanist, a lesbian, or whatever label they choose to give you that doesn't fit you. They told me the reason behind my depression was because I am faithless,
they invalidated my suicidal thoughts after I finally spoke up about how I truly feel about my life. The following months were a waking nightmare for me because I had to pretend I was a muslim for the sake of my parents' happiness, which made me feel like a double faced lying bitch, I felt so guilty
every waking minute of every day for months (still do), I deactivated some of my social media
accounts because debating muslims online was emotionally draining, and besides it just made me feel like shit because muslims are professional gaslighters (islam is perfect, culture is not). I chose a
college major that I'm not quite passionate about(or in another word, I dont see it as a future career path) because it made my parents happier, but no
matter what I've done, it wasn't enough, I was still a bad person, a bad daughter, and a bad friend, a
bad sister and overall, a bad human being. I was the black sheep of the family (and let me tell you, my family is far from good) because I rejected an ideology that dehumanized the fuck outta my
gender. 2020 and 2021 were beyond awful and I can't even describe the loneliness, despair, disgust, fear, shame and guilt I felt for months, I would stay in bed for literally days and weeks without eating because I felt like I don't deserve to eat, I googled every suicide method on this planet but I just couldn't find a painless way to go, and the aftermath was too intense for me to handle, and just the thought that my family had to deal with it, made me endure the pain for their sake (even after you
commit suicide, society wouldn't give you peace, they would make bullshit assumptions, let alone
the fucking guilt my parents would feel because they would be certain that their daughter is getting
tormented in hell for some odd reason. Ik that my mom would spend the remainder of her life
praying so that her merciful god would forgive her daughter for killing herself). You know what's
worse? It's the fact that you can't even talk about these kinds of things in Algeria because suicide is a taboo, "pray them suicidal thoughts away, ey!" "go back to god 'cause no woman of god thinks about killing herself" "god is punishing you for rejecting him" "oh you think about killing yourself? this can't be me! I have never thought about killing myself and I can't imagine I would in a million years" (that's what I was told one time by a family relative) and the list goes on of the insensitive shit muslims spit on a daily basis about topics they know nothing about. My first year in university wasn't the best because I was exhausted for most of it, I felt like I didn't fit in, since all of my graduating class was passionate about that major, but I wasn't. I attended 0 lectures, paid multiple doctors to make me a certificate just so that I wouldn't have to attend those mandatory college courses, I went to all the exams without even knowing shit about the given material we were studying, some of my
classmates said "she's lying about no studying because no med student is apathetic towards their studies", but the truth is
I truly didn't give a shit about school at that point, I simply wanted to die in my sleep just so that I don't have to put up with the circus that is my life. I lost hope, and once you lose hope, you have no will to do anything. I don't care about school anymore because I know I won't stay here for too long
(not to sound emo or anything). Got 6.61/20 as a general grade in the first semester and just the
thought of compensating that in the second semester made me helpless.
"What sI she doing in herthe dorm room if sheis not studying'' that's what I heard some bitch say about me (fuck them people who know nothing but love to jump to conclusions). the truth is that I wanted to be left alone, I loved staying in bed for a week without anyone checking in on me every hour and I loved the fact that I can just cry without having to explain myself, I loved the fact that I can starve in peace without anyone forcing me to eat, I loved the fact that I can go days without water because these things made me somehow feel like I'm in control of my life. Yk when things go bad in life, my brain would immediately tell me to go VSED mode, hoping that I could die.
The thing is, I'm not a nihilist, nor do I think life is pointless or depressing. Life is wonderful, it's an experience, YOUR EXPERIENCE, it's a whole journey of discovering yourself and your surroundings,
discovering your passions, likes, dislikes, favourite items, food, movies, you name it. A journey where you create memories, fall in love, sympathize with others, help those around you who are vulnerable, be vulnerable, accept diversity, create things and share your story with the world. Life is about being kind, loving, sharing, laughing, crying and embracing every thing that makes up humanity. LIFE IS SO WONDERFUL outside of this shithole. Life is so magical outside of this garbage bin. The depressing truth is that in every Islamic country, life centres around death and life after death and this life is nothing more than a pointless exam made by a narcissistic sky daddy who's constantly seeking people's validations and attention.


In order to cope with my unsatisfying life, I developed the unhealthiest coping mechanisms;
escapism (can't remember the last time I lived my life without blocking out unpleasant emotions and spending countless hours in an alternate reality that offered some dopamine), countless starve—
binge-eating cycles, self-harm, over-sleeping, cutting everyone out occasionally…etc
As a woman, you can't live in a country like Algeria, it's beyond awful, it's dehumanizing for us
women. We have to put up through it all. We can't wear mini skirts or shorts (even if it's 90 degrees out there) because muslim men can't control themselves
and you're practically asking to be sexually assaulted, you can't walk alone without getting bothered
by every freak in the nation (who's enabled by society and most importantly religion because you're a walking temptation) , you can't make your own choices, everyone seems to know about your body/life/brain more than you do. you can't lick icecream in public for god's sake, you can't laugh
out loud because you'll get judged, you can't wear a v-neck shirt because everyone will stare at your boobs. you can't buy your own apartment, you can't even sleep with your boyfriend because this
nation has some disturbing thoughts surrounding sex, you can't kiss your boyfriend in public because kissing and pda is indecent in this emotionally disturbed country (but hitting your kid is okay), you can't exist without getting sexualized, can you? Your entire value as a human being is reduced to your ability to give birth, stay pure (wtf is that? fuck the concept of virginity and purity culture that demonizes sex and intimate relationships), cook, clean, serve your hubby. IT'S EXHAUSTING and I'm
TIRED. And above all of this shit that we have to go through, we're the villains! We get villainized, we
are bad girls who can't seem to know their place, we get raped and told we asked for it, we get told
to shut up, we get told to dress appropriately, we get told to just obey and be submissive because
those are god's orders, and who are you to question them. They say he created women for men but
not the other way around. FUCK THIS SHIT IAM OUT
I wish I can get out of Algeria right now instead of wasting my beautiful youth in this hellhole. Once I do, I have to put my shattered pieces back together using therapy, medications and a radical
lifestyle change . Algeria isn't a place that gives you mental stability because mental health is a joke in here

while I am in no position to tell you that is wrong and this is right
I am not the religious person myself
but I think you should at least believe there is a god
I am no devoted Muslim by any means I don't even pray but you need to believe that god exist you know
just put it like this
if he existed and you did believe he is there you get a good deed maybe mercy idk
if he doesn't exist you lost nothing since he is not there
its a win win deal you know
i don't know if that counts as atheist or not though so i cant say i am an atheist too
by the way not all Muslims are extremist and have no common sense to hold a conversation
some are good people who can really provide reasonable explanations with scientific facts too
its just that you haven't found any yet
I found some people like that
but I just don't have the energy to even live anymore
guess that's just there luck

 

[BruceWayne]

im a muslim. to be honest i was atheist for a while and was at my worst. my faith in God is keeping me sane. giving me hope and setting me on the straight path. that being said i feel like any religion or irreligious can be ignorant if uneducated and forceful with their views. i get treated like a weirdo and outcast by colleagues for not drinking or talking about how i would like to bang this colleague due to my religious views. i am alienated as well.

Fellow ex-muslim here— I'm fortunate enough to live in a secular state but my parents are extremely conservative so I'm constantly pretending for them— wearing the hijab, praying, etc. I can't even wear jeans or scented moisturiser without my dad pitching a fit. I dread to think what they'd do if they knew about my atheism.


I relate really, really hard to this. The concept of an eternal hell is incredibly sadistic. It's exactly the kind of idea a cult leader would employ as a mechanism for control.

And you're absolutely right— women are treated horribly in Islam. It's very clearly a religion made by men, for men. Victim-blaming and rape culture are disgusting things in themselves— it's even worse when Muslim men assert that these ideas are divinely sanctioned.

I'm sorry you had to go through so much. You're incredibly brave and I really do hope you'll be able to emigrate out of Algeria one day. You deserve freedom, and autonomy, and I hope you'll get that.

hard disagree.

hell does exist because people who have murdered, raped or killed and have not recieved their punishment will recieve an eternal punishment in hell. nothing sadistic about it.

men carry the responsibility on earth and islam recognises that, hence why they have more power. islam is actually what the world needs more of right now. discipline.

 

[Death is my goal]

in regards of wearing shorts, v necks.. etc
tbh it's just more chance of you getting sexually assaulted. isn't it better to keep yourself safe from freaks? i know it's disturbing but what can you do..

Muslims generally just jump on you instead of like.. reasonably explain and see your point and where you coming from.. they don't even give you room to talk they just jump on you. which is really sucks as it just makes things worse..

 

[ApparentlyNot]

in regards of wearing shorts, v necks.. etc
tbh it's just more chance of you getting sexually assaulted. isn't it better to keep yourself safe from freaks? i know it's disturbing but what can you do..

I think the whole point is that she doesn't want to live in a country where she has to completely cater to an archaic patriarchy based on religious dogma that dehumanizes women to the point where it is generally acceptable to believe that if a woman is wearing a V-neck that they can justifiably assault, harass, and potentially rape her.

 

[Myforevercharlie]

Do you really think will read this newspaper??? Honey we're here to help not to read nonsense

It's not your place to call it nonsense. As you can see by the reactions of other users, it's being read.

 

[Aergia]

im a muslim. to be honest i was atheist for a while and was at my worst. my faith in God is keeping me sane. giving me hope and setting me on the straight path. that being said i feel like any religion or irreligious can be ignorant if uneducated and forceful with their views. i get treated like a weirdo and outcast by colleagues for not drinking or talking about how i would like to bang this colleague due to my religious views. i am alienated as well.

hard disagree.

hell does exist because people who have murdered, raped or killed and have not recieved their punishment will recieve an eternal punishment in hell. nothing sadistic about it.

men carry the responsibility on earth and islam recognises that, hence why they have more power. islam is actually what the world needs more of right now. discipline.

Alright, I'll rephrase. The concept of an eternal hell for having the wrong opinions about a specific God's existence is incredibly sadistic. Salvific belief isn't just illogical, it's unjust. I think it's apparent that I was referring to that, given that OP and I are both ex-muslim atheists and more so because according to mainstream Islamic theology, non-belief is the only sin that is punished by eternal torture. Murderers and rapists don't get eternal hell if they're Muslim.

Edit: I just realised what your third paragraph says and I'm sorry, but have you even read the Quran with understanding? Virtually every second page has a verse about how non-believers are going to burn in the fire forever. Nowhere is the same thing said about rapists or murderers (in fact, if you haven't read the Quran, you're not going to like what the ahadith have to say about those issues). There's literally nothing in Islamic scripture about rapists or murderers going to hell forever, lmao.

 

[BruceWayne]

Alright, I'll rephrase. The concept of an eternal hell for having the wrong opinions about a specific God's existence is incredibly sadistic. Salvific belief isn't just illogical, it's unjust. I think it's apparent that I was referring to that, given that OP and I are both ex-muslim atheists and more so because according to mainstream Islamic theology, non-belief is the only sin that is punished by eternal torture. Murderers and rapists don't get eternal hell if they're Muslim.

Edit: I just realised what your third paragraph says and I'm sorry, but have you even read the Quran with understanding? Virtually every second page has a verse about how non-believers are going to burn in the fire forever. Nowhere is the same thing said about rapists or murderers (in fact, if you haven't read the Quran, you're not going to like what the ahadith have to say about those issues). There's literally nothing in Islamic scripture about rapists or murderers going to hell forever, lmao.

The Offense of Zina (Enforcement of Hudood) Ordinance, VII of 1979 provides for Islamic standards of proof and punishment for the crimes of adultery, fornication, rape, and prosecution. Punishments include stoning to death, amputation of limbs, whipping, imprisonment, and fines.

Islam considers murder to be the most heinous crime against a person. The blood of a human being is sacred in Islam. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) reportedly stated that the first act of Allah on the Day of Judgment would be to punish murderers by making them suffer the torment of Hell.

now that i've completely discredited your completely ludicrous statement that rapists and murderers don't go to hell, lets talk about the punishment for rapists and murderers in islamic countries compared to the so called "free" countries that you're creaming your pants for?


i have read the Quran and by God are you a lying weasel.

every second page talks about unbelievers in fire? more lies


"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabians—those who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness—will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve." (Q. 2:62).

For those who do good deeds, there shall be the best reward and yet more blessings. (Ch.10: V.27)

And if they had believed and acted righteously, better surely, would have been their reward from Allah, had they but known! (Ch.2: V.104)


it is you who should stop fantasising about wearing jeans and scented lotions and read your Quran.