Has anyone thought about making things like N for themselves? When I was active in the gym scene loads of gear dealers (AAS) used to 'Home Brew'. You just need the chemical ingredients and the method. None of them were Oxford Uni Chemists (most were thick as two short planks really) and they all managed. I know the PPH mentions suchlike. Anyone know how they did?
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Bumping this because ive also been looking into brewing up something at home since it might be difficult to get some of these chemicals (especially in canada)
i just want options incase my original plan fails
i just want options incase my original plan fails
Hmm. I think its a valid idea. Maybe not easy but the PPH shows a photo of some pensioners doing it. Then again nothing is easy re all this is it.
There's a search bar.
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If you can get the ingredients, have the required lab materials then you can pretty much produce anything at home. It may fail bc you won't be able to acquire the basic ingredients. There's also the question about purity of the product.
Make nembutal
is there any chemist here who understand how to create nembutal? is it possible?
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If you can get the ingredients, have the required lab materials then you can pretty much produce anything at home. It may fail bc you won't be able to acquire the basic ingredients. There's also the question about purity of the product.
The gear dealers typically got the stuff from China. Lab materials can be bought. Making AAS was suprisingly simple I was told. I'm interested to know how said pensioners got on in the PPH?
Not to be an ass, but if it was that easy do you think most of us would be on this site? Three major problems with trying to make any deadly agent. One or all may apply to every situation.
- Most of the base ingredients are just as difficult to procure as the finished product.
- You sometimes need highly specialized equipment costing thousands of dollars (if not hundreds of thousands). Many of this reactions require high precision beyond throwing something in a pot on your stove.
- Chemistry is an art. As someone who has been through many chem labs, you can give two people the same protocol, one will have a pure, beautiful product and one will set the building on fire. Even with the ingredients and equipment, you can still mess it up.
You can synthesize Barbital (Diethylbarbituric acid) from commonly available presursors. (You just need urea, ethanol, sodium metal and the ester.
Nembutal would be a little more challanging to do at home if you need to alkylate the malonic ester by yourself. However, I have seen the corresponding ester being sold online.
Synthesizing barbiturates is a one step reaction. I think you can pull it off at home.
I'm not saying there is. What I am saying is 1) the PPH showed some pensioners doing it. How did they get on? 2) Gear (Steroid) dealers home brew extremely easily.
Have you looked into this yourself befote saying all that?
Steroid dealer don't do organic synthesis. They just buy the prescurosors online (eg testosteronen undecanoate) and dilute then to make them injectable.
Get what? The glassware, devices and all the necessary chemicals are available on amazon.
It is easy if you can get the alkylated ester for nembutal. Otherwise you have to settle for veronal, which still is a lethal barbiturate.
If somebody is dedicated and has a technical background, i have no doubt that you can make it in two days.
The synthesis itself is available online too.
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I'm not sure why some people are here. Plenty seem to have been on an awfully long time.
Pensioners have a life's worth of experience. My guess would be that they had relevant experience.
I can only talk for general manufacturing of illicit drugs. It's either done in a lab by competent (often professional) chemists. Or it's a simple product from often controlled base ingredients. Purity also varies quite a bit. Poor quality street drugs are common.
It's doable, but I'd be cautious. As amateurs we don't even know what can go wrong, and it's not obvious which aspects are important, when we do chemistry.
I never got around to cook anything.
It's mostly second hand information from addicts, especially from one friend hooked on amphetamine and into various RC, and online discussions.
My conclusion on setting up a lab was that it would be expensive, that the base products would be hard to get, and that I wasn't confident that I could make a safe product.
In short, there's a reason drugs are trafficked from other continents.
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I was typing out my response and then @Hvergelmir said pretty much what I was typing so there you go.
