Discussion Manic episodes

[Suicide_vampire]

Has anyone put themselves at great risk during a manic episode I have on several occasions just curious about others experience of this...

 

[BPD Barbie]

Not in terms of my physical wellbeing, but I spend ridiculous amounts of money and feel totally invincible during manic episodes. Like nothing matters, consequences are irrelevant etc.

 

[faust]

Mania was the greatest state I have ever experienced. During manias I had euphoria. I did not need any drugs to feel that. But it was very expensive. Not mania, but hypomania somehow. It was not a problem for me to spend all my money in a few hours. Once I spent the money which was for rent, bills and month of living and that was putting me to a very huge risk. Luckily, I managed to find 600+ euro. But that was a slight hypomania. During another slight hypomanias I took 3 loans which successfully paying back and would have had to pay until 2022-2023 unless I CTB. Hypomania was also putting me to a risk of falling from heights. I enjoyed roofing, there are no safety measures when I have hypomania. Never been with mania.
Edit: That has never been in the case of mania.

 

[Nem]

Spent 20k easily being hypomanic, had cops pull their guns on me once (we have shitty cops)
Peace/hugs

 

[Sensei]

Mania was the greatest state I have ever experienced. During manias I had euphoria. I did not need any drugs to feel that. But it was very expensive. Not mania, but hypomania somehow. It was not a problem for me to spend all my money in a few hours. Once I spent the money which was for rent, bills and month of living and that was putting me to a very huge risk. Luckily, I managed to find 600+ euro. But that was a slight hypomania. During another slight hypomanias I took 3 loans which successfully paying back and would have had to pay until 2022-2023 unless I CTB. Hypomania was also putting me to a risk of falling from heights. I enjoyed roofing, there are no safety measures when I have hypomania. Never been with mania.
Edit: That has never been in the case of mania.

The line between mania and hypomania can be thin. When my bipolar disorder was triggered, they thought that I simply had a burnout depression, as we call it in my language, and prescribed SSRI's, which has been described as rocket fuel for mania. I have very hazy memories of the following two or three months. I slept three hours a night and felt totally rested every day, burned my salary in less than a week and couldn't figure out what I had spent the money on, went to clubs very often and was totally unihibited after just one beer or two, asked women I'd never met for kisses and they played along, had two mistresses of different ages, and so on. This is very far from the person I normally am, almost the opposite in many respects. Was this weak mania or strong hypomania? Do I really have bipolar disorder II or could it actually be bipolar disorder I with very infrequent manic episodes? It's difficult to say. It's all a big spectrum.

 

[faust]

The line between mania and hypomania can be thin. When my bipolar disorder was triggered, they thought that I simply had a burnout depression, as we call it in my language, and prescribed SSRI's, which has been described as rocket fuel for mania. I have very hazy memories of the following two or three months. I slept three hours a night and felt totally rested every day, burned my salary in less than a week and couldn't figure out what I had spent the money on, went to clubs very often and was totally unihibited after just one beer or two, asked women I'd never met for kisses and they played along, had two mistresses of different ages, and so on. This is very far from the person I normally am, almost the opposite in many respects. Was this weak mania or strong hypomania? Do I really have bipolar disorder II or could it actually be bipolar disorder I with very infrequent manic episodes? It's difficult to say. It's all a big spectrum.

I agree with you. As for me, it was not hard to determine if it is mania or hypomania. Hypomania is often confused with an uplifted mood. You know that you feel good and start doing some weird stuff. Sometimes (or often) you don't even realize you are in a state of hypomania. Manias were giving me straightforward sings I have an episode of mania. Normally I did not feel euphoric, even in the state of hypomania I was not. During mania everything was different. It is uncontrollable euphoria and a giant amount of energy for me.

 

[Sensei]

I agree with you. As for me, it was not hard to determine if it is mania or hypomania. Hypomania is often confused with an uplifted mood. You know that you feel good and start doing some weird stuff. Sometimes (or often) you don't even realize you are in a state of hypomania. Manias were giving me straightforward sings I have an episode of mania. Normally I did not feel euphoric, even in the state of hypomania I was not. During mania everything was different. It is uncontrollable euphoria and a giant amount of energy for me.

For me hypomanic episodes, which I get very rarely, are through and through positive experiences. I become enthusiastic, optimistic, energetic, high-performing, and, according to other people, charming. It feels quite similar to taking amphetamine. I've always found it amazing how large the individual variations are. If all bipolar members of this forum would list their symptoms in one thread, I believe everyone's symptoms would be different.

 

[faust]

For me hypomanic episodes, which I get very rarely, are through and through positive experiences. I become enthusiastic, optimistic, energetic, high-performing, and, according to other people, charming. It feels quite similar to taking amphetamine. I've always found it amazing how large the individual variations are. If all bipolar members of this forum would list their symptoms in one thread, I believe everyone's symptoms would be different.

Honestly, I am missing my bipolar when I had enough manias. I could do so many things, had so many hobbies. I developed schizoaffective depressive type probably around 1,5 years ago (I don't know when was that turning pount) and can do literally nothing now. Life is just a constant willingness to CTB.

 

[Sensei]

Honestly, I am missing my bipolar when I had enough manias. I could do so many things, had so many hobbies. I developed schizoaffective depressive type probably around 1,5 years ago (I don't know when was that turning pount) and can do literally nothing now. Life is just a constant willingness to CTB.

I'm not well read up on schizoaffective disorder, but I know that it's very serious and debilitating. Is the medication the same as for bipolar disorder or do you get antipsychotics as well?

You have one disorder with a suicide rate of 20 % and another with a suicide rate of 10 %. If you feel that you must leave, make sure that you make the decision when you're in your right mind.

 

[faust]

I'm not well read up on schizoaffective disorder, but I know that it's very serious and debilitating. Is the medication the same as for bipolar disorder or do you get antipsychotics as well?

You have one disorder with a suicide rate of 20 % and another with a suicide rate of 10 %. If you feel that you must leave, make sure that you make the decision when you're in your right mind.

Yes, I was taking antidepressants and antipsychotics, neuroleptics were just in case of emergency, but I ate them all, now have absolutely nothing...
I already made a decision, I will try to go this June.

 

[Sensei]

Yes, I was taking antidepressants and antipsychotics, neuroleptics were just in case of emergency, but I ate them all, now have absolutely nothing...
I already made a decision, I will try to go this June.

Your medication doesn't work at all?

 

[faust]

Your medication doesn't work at all?

The last time I was on medication, I caught a severe depression and had to stop. So I think it makes the things worse.

 

[Sensei]

The last time I was on medication, I caught a severe depression and had to stop. So I think it makes the things worse.

Then it's no wonder you're suicidal. When it comes to the most serious disorders, there are many different kinds of treatment, but in the end, it's all about fighting chemistry with chemistry. (Borderline personality disorder may be an exception.) I don't know exactly how closely related schizoaffective disorder is to bipolar disorder, but I do know that for bipolar disorder, antidepressants not combined with mood stabiliser can have adverse effects, and serious ones at that. By the way, how long were you on antidepressants? Usually, there's a "hell week" before the effects kick in. The only reason I didn't kill myself during my hell week was that I couldn't muster enough energy, basically. May I ask, what other kinds of treatment have you tried, including self-treatment?

 

[faust]

Then it's no wonder you're suicidal. When it comes to the most serious disorders, there are many different kinds of treatment, but in the end, it's all about fighting chemistry with chemistry. (Borderline personality disorder may be an exception.) I don't know exactly how closely related schizoaffective disorder is to bipolar disorder, but I do know that for bipolar disorder, antidepressants not combined with mood stabiliser can have adverse effects, and serious ones at that. By the way, how long were you on antidepressants? Usually, there's a "hell week" before the effects kick in. The only reason I didn't kill myself during my hell week was that I couldn't muster enough energy, basically. May I ask, what other kinds of treatment have you tried, including self-treatment?

I have been on medication for 7 months. Both antidepressants and antipsychotics, the best thing was Escitalopram, but seems that I cannot take it anymore (after akathisia and dystonia caused by aripiprasole). Was on Sertraline and Olanzapine the last time and I was literally dying the last 2 weeks, so I had to discontinue all medication. Now I simply cannot afford treatment and my life is ruined to the extent I can do no more. It is not only about mental health, but about life in general. Btw never had a hell week.

 

[Sensei]

I have been on medication for 7 months. Both antidepressants and antipsychotics, the best thing was Escitalopram, but seems that I cannot take it anymore (after akathisia and dystonia caused by aripiprasole). Was on Sertraline and Olanzapine the last time and I was literally dying the last 2 weeks, so I had to discontinue all medication. Now I simply cannot afford treatment and my life is ruined to the extent I can do no more. It is not only about mental health, but about life in general. Btw never had a hell week.

There's no denying that you're in a desperate situation. When I mentioned other kinds of treatment, I meant psychothreapy, exercise, meditation, non-pharmaceutical medicines, and so on. It's not easy to handle serious disorders without convetional medication, but there are other ways to at least alleviate the symptoms. I shan't pretend that it's easy, but it's possible. If you can do that, I believe that it will probably be easier for you to handle your other problems. Bipolar disorder has a tendency to make problems worse, or at least seemingly so, and I assume the same goes for schizoaffective disorder.

 

[faust]

There's no denying that you're in a desperate situation. When I mentioned other kinds of treatment, I meant psychothreapy, exercise, meditation, non-pharmaceutical medicines, and so on. It's not easy to handle serious disorders without convetional medication, but there are other ways to at least alleviate the symptoms. I shan't pretend that it's easy, but it's possible. If you can do that, I believe that it will probably be easier for you to handle your other problems. Bipolar disorder has a tendency to make problems worse, or at least seemingly so, and I assume the same goes for schizoaffective disorder.

Well, thanks a lot for your advice! Unfortunately many things that worked with bipolar do not work for me anymore. I will order melatonin online today/tomorrow, want to check how it works with anxiety. Since the effects of anxiety are damaging, it would be a good thing to try something except for benzos. Can order Zolpidem as well, but would go for a safer alternative. Exercising does not help, even if I run on long distances, I don't feel that pleasure like 5 years ago. Psychotherapy is currently not affordable, medication often makes me just fall asleep.

 

[Sensei]

Well, thanks a lot for your advice! Unfortunately many things that worked with bipolar do not work for me anymore. I will order melatonin online today/tomorrow, want to check how it works with anxiety. Since the effects of anxiety are damaging, it would be a good thing to try something except for benzos. Can order Zolpidem as well, but would go for a safer alternative. Exercising does not help, even if I run on long distances, I don't feel that pleasure like 5 years ago. Psychotherapy is currently not affordable, medication often makes me just fall asleep.

Have you tried any alternative medicines, such as herbs? It seems you have nothing to lose.

 

[Jean4]

Not in terms of my physical wellbeing, but I spend ridiculous amounts of money and feel totally invincible during manic episodes. Like nothing matters, consequences are irrelevant etc.

I relate. I spend uncontrollably also.

 

[faust]

Have you tried any alternative medicines, such as herbs? It seems you have nothing to lose.

Alright, due to lack of medication and being unable to purchase, I started today cannabis microdosing. Peppermint, melissa, thyme does not help me much. Peppermint in bigger amounts makes me vulnerable to panic attacks. Valerian root does not help much too, before in bigger doses was pushing me a bit high at night. Ginger root makes a difference during motion sicknesses

 

[Jean4]

Alright, due to lack of medication and being unable to purchase, I started today cannabis microdosing. Peppermint, melissa, thyme does not help me much. Peppermint in bigger amounts makes me vulnerable to panic attacks. Valerian root does not help much too, before in bigger doses was pushing me a bit high at night. Ginger root makes a difference during motion sicknesses

Marijuana is the only thing that works for me.

 

[Sensei]

Alright, due to lack of medication and being unable to purchase, I started today cannabis microdosing. Peppermint, melissa, thyme does not help me much. Peppermint in bigger amounts makes me vulnerable to panic attacks. Valerian root does not help much too, before in bigger doses was pushing me a bit high at night. Ginger root makes a difference during motion sicknesses

With the exception of cannabis, those are rather weak herbs. Being the forum's main herb pusher, I'll have to refer to my guide: Self-medication: Herbs – actually not New Age shit and placebo. To me, damiana has been the most effective anxiety killer. Without it, I'm quite sure I would have been dead by now.

 

[faust]

Marijuana is the only thing that works for me.

Already second dose. Can't feel a headache, overall well-being is stable, very relaxed, instead of anxiety pleasant feeling in the chest. My body was shaking when I woke up,now it is not. Awareness a bit greater than usual

With the exception of cannabis, those are rather weak herbs. Being the forum's main herb pusher, I'll have to refer to my guide: Self-medication: Herbs – actually not New Age shit and placebo. To me, damiana has been the most effective anxiety killer. Without it, I'm quite sure I would have been dead by now.

Oh, thank you! I will take a look. Herbs are safer anyway. This night already second dose, the rest is in reply to @Jean4

 

[Jean4]

Already second dose. Can't feel a headache, overall well-being is stable, very relaxed, instead of anxiety pleasant feeling in the chest. My body was shaking when I woke up,now it is not. Awareness a bit greater than usual

Oh, thank you! I will take a look. Herbs are safer anyway. This night already second dose, the rest is in reply to @Jean4

Yayyyy!!!!!

 

[faust]

Yayyyy!!!!!

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...bservations-journal-constantly-updated.33641/

 

[Jojo81]

Tried starting an arts and crafts business.. Quit my job. Burnt bridges.. Spent all my savings and retirement money.. Now I feel terrible. But my manic episode lasted atleast 2 years.. Am very skeptical if anyone can have manic episode for 2 years straight?

 

[Sensei]

Tried starting an arts and crafts business.. Quit my job. Burnt bridges.. Spent all my savings and retirement money.. Now I feel terrible.

I'm sorry. I hope it was an interesting and educating experience for you, though.

But my manic episode lasted atleast 2 years.. Am very skeptical if anyone can have manic episode for 2 years straight?

The individual variations are enormous, so it's not impossible. I'd say that it has to be exceptionally rare, though,

 

[Viro_Major]

I'm absolutely not certain to be bipolar (or anything else psychiatric rather than intoxicated by pharma stuff previously) but my mood has been definitely cycling in the past, at least before I start to treat myself recently. From now on, cannot judge.
Yesterday though, found back a prescription from a general practicionner while sorting my affairs, and realised he had been putting me on bipolar meds without me realising, after I complained. It was alternative, not the traditional ones, Valpromide instead of Lithium , and Buspirone. I remember not feeling good on them and quit early.

Anyway, my up cycles have been extremly long, anything between 6 months to 2 years. The low ones between 4 to 8 months of hell.

 

[demon bunny]

took a lot of drugs n oded before during hypomania